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  • Originally posted by Kaireem View Post
    Eh I dont really agree. Many players already monetize being Filipino. Its should be expected that they not ask too much in response.

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    • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post

      Eh I dont really agree. Many players already monetize being Filipino. Its should be expected that they not ask too much in response.
      actually what i meant by bullseye is some player's camp felt the heat

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      • Originally posted by Kaireem View Post

        actually what i meant by bullseye is some player's camp felt the heat
        Sorry I misunderstood. But a lot of people are making money off pinoy pride. Just for example, Does anyone think asian imports would be a thing if not for pinoy pride? If they didn't want to tap into the pinoy market, they would just get american or european imports instead of asian ones.

        Giving back for the blessings you've received is playing for the country. It's different if these guys weren't blessed, in that case pay them, but I hope they understand the transaction here.
        Last edited by Sikatrix; 10-10-2023, 08:58 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post

          Sorry I misunderstood. But a lot of people are making money off pinoy pride. Just for example, Does anyone think asian imports would be a thing if not for pinoy pride? If they didn't want to tap into the pinoy market, they would just get american of european imports instead of asian ones.

          Giving back for the blessings you've received is playing for the country. It's different if these guys weren't blessed, in that case pay them, but I hope they understand the transaction here.
          agree with you on these 100%, but i don't have an issue if someone asks to be paid, what i do have an issue with is that its done under the table and then they promote an image that they're playing because they love the country and for the money.

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          • Guys, what are your assessments on Calvin Oftana's overall performance in the recent Asian Games?

            He had his struggles in the tournament but I think overall he didn't do badly. How was his defense in the overall tournament, especially in Gilas's last 3 big games vs. Iran, China & Jordan?

            I think defensively Oftana isn't in the level of a prime Gabe Norwood. But the thing is, Oftana is a better offensive player than Gabe & he has more confidence in his offense than the usually passive Gabe. Oftana also has a better shooting touch from three than Gabe.
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
              Guys, what are your assessments on Calvin Oftana's overall performance in the recent Asian Games?

              He had his struggles in the tournament but I think overall he didn't do badly. How was his defense in the overall tournament, especially in Gilas's last 3 big games vs. Iran, China & Jordan?

              I think defensively Oftana isn't in the level of a prime Gabe Norwood. But the thing is, Oftana is a better offensive player than Gabe & he has more confidence in his offense than the usually passive Gabe. Oftana also has a better shooting touch from three than Gabe.
              he did better than malonzo plus he also helped in rebounding in every game, yes he only scored 5 pts vs jordan but he had 7 rebounds

              the potential is there, all he needs is to have some "kapal ng mukha" as he needs to shoot more

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              • Originally posted by Kaireem View Post

                he did better than malonzo plus he also helped in rebounding in every game, yes he only scored 5 pts vs jordan but he had 7 rebounds

                the potential is there, all he needs is to have some "kapal ng mukha" as he needs to shoot more
                Rightfully so because he is not a bad shooter.
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                • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                  It will not happen since the fans are too high in Asian games victory… for sure they will look those players who won the gold… and for sure b league and KBL players are always available..

                  The way Marcial made it sound like it would be just PBA players,since they won the gold without the overseas guys,he's very confident.

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                  • Originally posted by Kaireem View Post

                    With Marcial and SMC,this is the start of no overseas players needed,PBA is still superior in Asia mode.If they lose,its a conspiracy of refs,organizers,FIBA,etc,never their fault.

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                    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                      Guys, what are your assessments on Calvin Oftana's overall performance in the recent Asian Games?

                      He had his struggles in the tournament but I think overall he didn't do badly. How was his defense in the overall tournament, especially in Gilas's last 3 big games vs. Iran, China & Jordan?

                      I think defensively Oftana isn't in the level of a prime Gabe Norwood. But the thing is, Oftana is a better offensive player than Gabe & he has more confidence in his offense than the usually passive Gabe. Oftana also has a better shooting touch from three than Gabe.
                      needs more confidence because he can shoot the ball and handle it

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                      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                        Guys, what are your assessments on Calvin Oftana's overall performance in the recent Asian Games?

                        He had his struggles in the tournament but I think overall he didn't do badly. How was his defense in the overall tournament, especially in Gilas's last 3 big games vs. Iran, China & Jordan?

                        I think defensively Oftana isn't in the level of a prime Gabe Norwood. But the thing is, Oftana is a better offensive player than Gabe & he has more confidence in his offense than the usually passive Gabe. Oftana also has a better shooting touch from three than Gabe.
                        He is too timid on offense.

                        He needs to take chances and attack the basket more. Take open shots if given the chance and don’t hesitate.

                        You’re a 6'5 guy with range and passable handles, utilize them!

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                        • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                          He is too timid on offense.

                          He needs to take chances and attack the basket more. Take open shots if given the chance and don’t hesitate.

                          You’re a 6'5 guy with range and passable handles, utilize them!
                          i think its because oftana is a product of a "system first, individual later" basketball program

                          he was on his way to being "the man" with yeng guiao but when he was traded to tnt he had to share the ball with williams, pogoy and jayson castro, and most of the time he seems to defer to them

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                          • Originally posted by Kaireem View Post

                            i think its because oftana is a product of a "system first, individual later" basketball program

                            he was on his way to being "the man" with yeng guiao but when he was traded to tnt he had to share the ball with williams, pogoy and jayson castro, and most of the time he seems to defer to them
                            Might be the reason why Chot doesn't like him despite playing under him in the PBA. He likes dumping the ball on players and let them create

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                            • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post


                              With Marcial and SMC,this is the start of no overseas players needed,PBA is still superior in Asia mode.If they lose,its a conspiracy of refs,organizers,FIBA,etc,never their fault.
                              With an aging All-PBA Gilas squad with Kouame not yet granted of exemption, it will struggle against teams in FIBA competitions. Gilas barely beat China, Iran and Jordan, which I believe, will be easily beaten by our World Cup team.
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                              • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post

                                Might be the reason why Chot doesn't like him despite playing under him in the PBA. He likes dumping the ball on players and let them create
                                Yes he was tasked to create under Yeng. In TNT he was actually going the Troy Rosario route to obscurity. Heck at a time a 6’2 PF Khobuntin seemingly got more minutes than him. An injury to Pogoy forced Chots hand to play him at SF/SG.

                                Oftana was probably better off with Yeng. He actually doesnt belong to any of the types Chot likes. He is not an explosive guard with excellent handles and shooting. He is not an athletic forward the likes of Kelly or Norwood. He is not a bruising PF in the likes of RDO and Ping. Lastly, he is a decent defender but not the physical at times a bit dirty one like Pogoy, Khobuntin or Montalbo.

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