Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[bluenote49]

I think for now it's good to try TC with the support of SMC to handle Gilas for the Olympic qualifier. If we are competitive in the tournament, they may extend it up to the 2027 World Cup. TC has the advantage of being liked and respected by all basketball parties involved in PH basketball, from PBA/SBP to fans and players themselves. So maybe he's the key to PH's success in international competition. I hope they don't overlook non-PBA players and add some of the brightest and youngest coaches in collegiate ranks to their staff.

[DAdmiral]

Yes given the situation, I recommend Cone for 2026 qualifiers and WC

The structure and leadership above him on how they operate, needs massive fixing . I dont suggest Cone can do anything with that

[sroth3839]

Why do I have a feeling that Al Chua will all of a sudden impose on Tim Cone to become the permanent Gilas head coach after the Commisioner's cup.

Not a bad idea.

Prior to all this, many people dismissed TC because his style is “outdated”. They keep pointing out his triangle offense as ineffective and blah blah.

You can tell people don’t watch CTC-coached teams at all.

CTC is the most adapted PBA coach IMO. Even years ahead of Chot who is too stubborn.

[ja.he]

Not a bad idea.

Prior to all this, many people dismissed TC because his style is “outdated”. They keep pointing out his triangle offense as ineffective and blah blah.

You can tell people don’t watch CTC-coached teams at all.

CTC is the most adapted PBA coach IMO. Even years ahead of Chot who is too stubborn.

Let Tab Baldwin handle a PBA team so that we can have a Tab-Tim showdown. Already saw Rajko-Tim showdown and it was fun to watch with Gilas won by a point.

[DAdmiral]

Not a bad idea.

Prior to all this, many people dismissed TC because his style is “outdated”. They keep pointing out his triangle offense as ineffective and blah blah.

You can tell people don’t watch CTC-coached teams at all.

CTC is the most adapted PBA coach IMO. Even years ahead of Chot who is too stubborn.

At the end of day it's still the same basketball principles, what Cone has showed that the blue print of many years together (manager coach , star player-Brownlee, PG etc and culture built in Ginebra is sill the same proven process
obviously the different structure around it is super far from ideal, (e.g PBA doesn't use FIBA rules , has limited number of FiBA WC level and size players in league, age of players etc etc is a super disadvantage unless this larger structure and system flaw is addressed, no amount of good coaching or togetherness culture will make the Philippines a competitive world level team.
you have to remember despite our success the Philippines hasnt produced even 1 NBA player or Div 1 starter or Euro league div 1 rotation player

[DAdmiral]

Let Tab Baldwin handle a PBA team so that we can have a Tab-Tim showdown. Already saw Rajko-Tim showdown and it was fun to watch with Gilas won by a point.

If u make Cone and put him in Lasalle, don't think he can win instantly, same scenario if u get Tab and put him into TNT he won't win until many years (if at all he's willing to cosch in PBA), what I'm saying it's not actually the tournament or game coaching the make the difference, it really is the structure and environment build over the years that matter

The thing with Tab that differentiates him is he actually has world level FIBA coaching experience for many years, this cannot be underestimated, cause obviously the tactical maturity was build to adiopt for that unique FIBA world level environment. One learns and uses different tactics depending on the environment to win.

It's actually the same process for learning to be effective in any specific environment, it's still exposure, having said that of course if Cone was fortunate enough to have opportunity to coach say NZ in WC for 4 world cups , i dont doubt he would do a good job and gain the necessary experience , unfortunately that's just not reality

[DAdmiral]

Question: Assuming Kouame is expempted to go with AJ and Dwiight as core , is it realistically possible to eventually develop a quality SF ineligible like Balungay or Christian David as NP to complete future core pieces

[sroth3839]

Question: Assuming Kouame is expempted to go with AJ and Dwiight as core , is it realistically possible to eventually develop a quality SF ineligible like Balungay or Christian David as NP to complete future core pieces

Jayden Harper

[barok espinoza]

Hypothetical question: If we had also qualified for the Olympics, would the IOC Executive Board have permitted Clarkson, Brownlee, and Kouame to play together? Would they have allowed additional individuals deemed ineligible by FIBA, such as Mikey or RH Jr., assuming the latter obtains a Philippine passport?

According to the Olympic Charter (Rule 40-41) Any competitor in the Olympic Games must be a national of the country of the NOC which is entering such competitor. A competitor who is a national of two or more countries at the same time may represent either one of them, as he may elect. xxx All matters relating to the determination of the country which a competitor may represent in the Olympic Games shall be resolved by the IOC Executive Board.

I apologize if this question has already been asked and answered before. If the IOC allows heritage players to play for the PH, the world might be surprised how strong our Olympic team could be.

[reamily]

Hypothetical question: If we had also qualified for the Olympics, would the IOC Executive Board have permitted Clarkson, Brownlee, and Kouame to play together? Would they have allowed additional individuals deemed ineligible by FIBA, such as Mikey or RH Jr., assuming the latter obtains a Philippine passport?

According to the Olympic Charter (Rule 40-41) Any competitor in the Olympic Games must be a national of the country of the NOC which is entering such competitor. A competitor who is a national of two or more countries at the same time may represent either one of them, as he may elect. xxx All matters relating to the determination of the country which a competitor may represent in the Olympic Games shall be resolved by the IOC Executive Board.

I apologize if this question has already been asked and answered before. If the IOC allows heritage players to play for the PH, the world might be surprised how strong our Olympic team could be.

always and we will win in Sports Arbitration

[yogaflame]

I hope and pray that someday Balunggay, Philips, Ange and Clarkson will be considered local in Fiba. Let us just be patient and give the right reasons to Fiba. Asiad gold was a great achievement for our team which is most analyst called Team B. Now this is a big moral booster to our stronger team A in the upcoming Fiba Asia cup and OQT.

[r1ck]

If u make Cone and put him in Lasalle, don't think he can win instantly, same scenario if u get Tab and put him into TNT he won't win until many years (if at all he's willing to cosch in PBA), what I'm saying it's not actually the tournament or game coaching the make the difference, it really is the structure and environment build over the years that matter

The thing with Tab that differentiates him is he actually has world level FIBA coaching experience for many years, this cannot be underestimated, cause obviously the tactical maturity was build to adiopt for that unique FIBA world level environment. One learns and uses different tactics depending on the environment to win.

It's actually the same process for learning to be effective in any specific environment, it's still exposure, having said that of course if Cone was fortunate enough to have opportunity to coach say NZ in WC for 4 world cups , i dont doubt he would do a good job and gain the necessary experience , unfortunately that's just not reality

When Danding was still alive there were rumors that Tim Cone was one of their coaching candidates for the La Salle job, if I recall this was right after Aldin Ayo left La Salle for UST.

[DAdmiral]

Kind of disappointing that our exceptions , Lassiter, Lutz, Greg and Newsome, hasn't really translated to any results that matter

[Sikatrix]

Kind of disappointing that our exceptions , Lassiter, Lutz, Greg and Newsome, hasn't really translated to any results that matter

Did you watch the finals game? Who was guarding RHJ? Newsome was and I have to tell you that Asian Games win was our biggest in my lifetime.

[DAdmiral]

Did you watch the finals game? Who was guarding RHJ? Newsome was and I have to tell you that Asian Games win was our biggest in my lifetime.

But remember Newsome did not need an exception to play in Asian games, that might point

absolutely Newsome value and the huge win, im referring to getting exceptions that impacted in official FIBA games.