Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[Rds]

Nope , unfortunately not , there is a reason why Tuffin entered the PBA draft and not b league money.
do note even if a fil foreigner is technically eligible, unless he gets clearance from FIBA as a local, by fielding his name in a roster for a FIBA competition, he won't get official clearance
and thats why these guys wont ever be inclided in Gilas , or else the stakeholders who run both the PBa /SBP will lose players....to overseas. Kind of messed up really.

I hope not. There are a lot of ineligible Filfors but only a few eligible guys at their size, speed, skill-level.

[zairex]

Nope , unfortunately not , there is a reason why Tuffin entered the PBA draft and not b league money.
do note even if a fil foreigner is technically eligible, unless he gets clearance from FIBA as a local, by fielding his name in a roster for a FIBA competition, he won't get official clearance
and thats why these guys wont ever be inclided in Gilas , or else the stakeholders who run both the PBa /SBP will lose players....to overseas. Kind of messed up really.

If this is true then why Roosevelt Adams situation with B. League didn't not need a FiBa clearance.

[IPC]

If this is true then why Roosevelt Adams situation with B. League didn't not need a FiBa clearance.

Adams did play for Gilas before going to Japan, though. August window.

[zairex]

Adams did play for Gilas before going to Japan, though. August window.

But he was already negotiating with Japan by January 2022. No indication that he will be part of Gilas. Which was 7 months before his gilas debut.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/japan-b-league/how-roosevelt-adams-arrived-at-decision-to-move-to-b-league-a2244-20220127

[System]

Tim Cone's adjustments were really key. He stopped running the triangle for the almost the whole second half, and abandoned it all throughout the fourth.

And other than the heroic Brownlee, Koaume really was a gamechanger. He really clamped down China's offense, they were able to do the switch everything defense that made China's offense stagnate and force one on ones. This was in stark contrast when JMF was inside the court being abused repeatedly in defense. Once our defense picked up and we gained confidence, we began that huge rally.

Tim cone really showed his pedigree here, we've already seen glimpses of him being flexible early in the tournament, and now he just shown his masterclass.

And of course, kudos to the most clutch ph player of all time, JB.

[xenoloxy]

Tim Cone's adjustments were really key. He stopped running the triangle for the almost the whole second half, and abandoned it all throughout the fourth.

And other than the heroic Brownlee, Koaume really was a gamechanger. He really clamped down China's offense, they were able to do the switch everything defense that made China's offense stagnate and force one on ones. This was in stark contrast when JMF was inside the court being abused repeatedly in defense. Once our defense picked up and we gained confidence, we began that huge rally.

Tim cone really showed his pedigree here, we've already seen glimpses of him being flexible early in the tournament, and now he just shown his masterclass.

And of course, kudos to the most clutch ph player of all time, JB.

Imagine Edu and Kouame on the same team

[ARMIR]

Tim Cone's adjustments were really key. He stopped running the triangle for the almost the whole second half, and abandoned it all throughout the fourth.

And other than the heroic Brownlee, Koaume really was a gamechanger. He really clamped down China's offense, they were able to do the switch everything defense that made China's offense stagnate and force one on ones. This was in stark contrast when JMF was inside the court being abused repeatedly in defense. Once our defense picked up and we gained confidence, we began that huge rally.

Tim cone really showed his pedigree here, we've already seen glimpses of him being flexible early in the tournament, and now he just shown his masterclass.

And of course, kudos to the most clutch ph player of all time, JB.

I think Jong has something with it,he's more active he's even on the floor and I won't be surprised if he did call some plays outside of the triangle.

[DAdmiral]

If this is true then why Roosevelt Adams situation with B. League didn't not need a FiBa clearance.

It is true , Adams did get FIBA clearance, do note being included into a FIBA roster is only one of the ways to get clearance , the SBP can file to get clearance for anyone outside of roster submission if it chooses to.
in the June 2022 Window in NZ , Amos while obviously eligible, still had to get final clearance to play, what happened instead is he was put in the pool of 20 that was submitted for clearance, and got it. Amos eventually played for Gilas officially in Feb Window. Many months after getting cleared

Zairex stop questioning legalistically for proof etc for things you're not privy and familar with. Anyway the point is the SBP /PBA stakeholders are really using regulation to protect its league from losing players but hurting the availability of Gilas representations. Thus is verified

Do note clearance is not the same as exemption cases, like a few like I think Winston, MALONZO, and Amesahi (sorry forgot name), got clearance, and not exception.

[zairex]

It is true , Adams did get FIBA clearance, do note being included into a FIBA roster is only one of the ways to get clearance , the SBP can file to get clearance for anyone outside of roster submission if it chooses to.
in the June 2022 Window in NZ , Amos while obviously eligible, still had to get final clearance to play, what happened instead is he was put in the pool of 20 that was submitted for clearance, and got it.

Zairex stop questioning legalistically for proof etc for things you're not privy and familar with. Anyway the point is the SBP /PBA stakeholders are really using regulation to protect its league from losing players but hurting the availability of Gilas representations. Thus is verified

You accuse other org and people but don't want someone to ask if you can substantiate it with facts. Where is the logic in that. Is it fair to know if your telling the truth or stating a misinformation.


You clearly said that to get clearance you have to be in Fiba roster. Now your saying otherwise. So what is the truth then?

Remember, you have stated misinformation before here and had a burner account. So you have misrepresented truth here.

Rather than being high and mighty and telling people to shut up and just accept your infos (very dictatorship). Show a link about what you are saying is true then or make it logical. Like show me if Fiba clearance is a requirement for Asia Quota.. is that not fair.

[DAdmiral]

As we speak there a lot of fil foreigners already negotiating with B league teams, and trying to figure out how to get clearance from the SBP via FIBA..

there is a reason why some fil foreigners who are eligible (Spencer) havent entered PBA draft yet or the B league., even if they are currently available.

Essentially SBP is acting like POEA now, and is regulating who gets to work overseas and for which employer, downright disgraceful

[r1ck]

It is true , Adams did get FIBA clearance, do note being included into a FIBA roster is only one of the ways to get clearance , the SBP can file to get clearance for anyone outside of roster submission if it chooses to.
in the June 2022 Window in NZ , Amos while obviously eligible, still had to get final clearance to play, what happened instead is he was put in the pool of 20 that was submitted for clearance, and got it. Amos eventually played for Gilas officially in Feb Window. Many months after getting cleared

Zairex stop questioning legalistically for proof etc for things you're not privy and familar with. Anyway the point is the SBP /PBA stakeholders are really using regulation to protect its league from losing players but hurting the availability of Gilas representations. Thus is verified

Do note clearance is not the same as exemption cases, like a few like I think Winston, MALONZO, and Amesahi (sorry forgot name), got clearance, and not exception.

Sir is it possible that you could reveal some of the names included in the list of 20 fil-foreign players that was submitted to FIBA for clearance?

[DAdmiral]

You accuse other org and people but don't want someone to ask if you can substantiate it with facts. Where is the logic in that. Is it fair to know if your telling the truth or stating a misinformation.


You clearly said that to get clearance you have to be in Fiba roster. Now your saying otherwise. So what is the truth then?

Remember, you have stated misinformation before here and had a burner account. So you have misrepresented truth here.

Rather than being high and mighty and telling people to shut up and just accept your infos (very dictatorship). Show a link about what you are saying is true then or make it logical. Like show me if Fiba clearance is a requirement for Asia Quota.. is that not fair.

Sorry yes stand corrected, one does not need to be in official 12 man roster , rather his name has to be submitted to FIBA for clearance, whether that be via the tournament pool list submitted or a one off request.
No one needs to be convinced that is the process , as it is a matter of fsct simply the process. What else is FIbA doing with an initial pool list is submitted to them , they are verifying eligibility , obviously.

One would be stupid to opennly discuss and divulge Negotiations to get players eligible, and what's stopping them.

You only have to look at who entered the draft and see why some who have strong case of local eligibility have not yet entered PBA draft . Again if that doesn't convince you , that's up to you. .
no one will ever openly show you proof of actual practice of what's happening.

Do note the only verifiable to be classified officially as a local eligible, is issue of a FIBA ID as a local, this obviously has to get clearance verification before being issued . That in itself is proof of the process

[DAdmiral]

Sir is it possible that you could reveal some of the names included in the list of 20 fil-foreign players that was submitted to FIBA for clearance?

it's not all fil foreigners, its the pool list submitted for a window , or tournament,
the SBP thinks ahead even if a player might not play yet for window, and seeks earlier clearance of new players like Mason in 2022.

So technically speaking it can include all fil foreigners for priorr clearance for future purposes, but of course as PBA stakeholders it won't , to stop them from being available for B league etc, technically it can include Pholipps and Balungay , tuffin , Spencer and so on.

[zairex]

Sorry yes stand corrected, one does not need to be in official 12 man roster , rather his name has to be submitted to FIBA for clearance, whether that be via the tournament pool list submitted or a one off request.
No one needs to be convinced that is the process , as it is a matter of fsct simply the process. What else is FIbA doing with an initial pool list is submitted to them , they are verifying eligibility , obviously.

You see, if no one asked you then the whole truth will not be revealed. So when did Adams get clearance from FIBa? Who filed it. Cause he was already negotiating his deal for B. League before his name was in any Gilas pool.

Correct me also if i am wrong your saying handlers of filams like Mike Philips will not want them to be recognized as a local for them to avoid going to B. League. Is that correct?

[r1ck]

it's not all fil foreigners, its the pool list submitted for a window , or tournament,
the SBP things ahead even if a player might not play yet for window, and seeks earlier clearance of new players like Mason in 2022.

So technically speaking it can include all fil foreigners for priorr clearance for future purposes, but of course as PBA stakeholders it won't , to stop them from being available for B league etc, technically it can include Pholipps and Balungay , tuffin , Spencer and so on.

Thanks for clarifying that but I did read somewhere that Tuffin and Spencer are eligible to play for Gilas if they choose to do so.