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  • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
    diba, there are scenarios we cant control (i.e. home cooking), so as much as possible, win every winnable game. Im surprised that the fans have yet to turn against CTC, either his BGSM popularity is carried over to Gilas, still in a honeymoon period, or Cone is too tact unlike his predecessor.
    Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    Maybe all of the above. But make coach Tim commit one blunder after another & for sure Gilas fans would start to ridicule him. But I don't think that's gonna happen becoz as coach Tim said prior to the Asian Games, he won't coach Gilas beyond the Asian Games.
    After this Asiad, SBP better start looking for a coach that is interested in a long-term project, build up for 2027, get a system good for international play, and get as many players as possible that can play in 2027 (meaning get as many players that are not too old for that). Similar to Germany's 3-year project.

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    • Originally posted by IPC View Post




      After this Asiad, SBP better start looking for a coach that is interested in a long-term project, build up for 2027, get a system good for international play, and get as many players as possible that can play in 2027 (meaning get as many players that are not too old for that). Similar to Germany's 3-year project.
      Correct. It should be a pool of players practicing/playing/scrimmaging together for a 4-year cycle.

      The ideal No. of players in that pool should be around 24. Having too many players in the pool will also have some detrimental effect.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Gilas drastically reducing triangle sets in the first quarter. I've only counted two possessions where they ran sets out of a vanilla triangle. They mostly ran a spread out offense where there are more possibilities of three point shots being taken, and they are not afraid of taking shots early in the shotclock. Unlike their first 3 games, they also mixed up their defense, going from a full court press to a 2-3 zone. Good adjustments from Tim Cone.

        Granted that the opponent is significantly weaker though thus Gilas showing their superiority is a given, I think Tim Cone is looking more like a FIBA coach in that first quarter.​

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        • Originally posted by System View Post
          Gilas drastically reducing triangle sets in the first quarter. I've only counted two possessions where they ran sets out of a vanilla triangle. They mostly ran a spread out offense where there are more possibilities of three point shots being taken, and they are not afraid of taking shots early in the shotclock. Unlike their first 3 games, they also mixed up their defense, going from a full court press to a 2-3 zone. Good adjustments from Tim Cone.

          Granted that the opponent is significantly weaker though thus Gilas showing their superiority is a given, I think Tim Cone is looking more like a FIBA coach in that first quarter.​
          I thought we only show it on semis pa..Ginebra doesnt really set on triangle mainly..
          To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
          1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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          • Originally posted by System View Post
            Gilas drastically reducing triangle sets in the first quarter. I've only counted two possessions where they ran sets out of a vanilla triangle. They mostly ran a spread out offense where there are more possibilities of three point shots being taken, and they are not afraid of taking shots early in the shotclock. Unlike their first 3 games, they also mixed up their defense, going from a full court press to a 2-3 zone. Good adjustments from Tim Cone.

            Granted that the opponent is significantly weaker though thus Gilas showing their superiority is a given, I think Tim Cone is looking more like a FIBA coach in that first quarter.​
            Cone has been tweaking his system over recent years to modernize it

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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

              Correct. It should be a pool of players practicing/playing/scrimmaging together for a 4-year cycle.

              The ideal No. of players in that pool should be around 24. Having too many players in the pool will also have some detrimental effect.
              Actually 16 - 18 players are already enough...

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                • After the draft the possible Gilas pool did improve a bit but most of the bigs need that FIBA exemption

                  FIBA eligible:
                  Deschon Winston
                  Kenneth Tuffin
                  Ricci Rivero
                  Kemark Carino

                  Needs FIBA exemption:
                  Zavier Lucero
                  Luis Villegas
                  Keith Datu
                  Christian David
                  Brandon Bates
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                  • Originally posted by r1ck View Post
                    After the draft the possible Gilas pool did improve a bit but most of the bigs need that FIBA exemption

                    FIBA eligible:
                    Deschon Winston
                    Kenneth Tuffin
                    Ricci Rivero
                    Kemark Carino

                    Needs FIBA exemption:
                    Zavier Lucero
                    Luis Villegas
                    Keith Datu
                    Christian David
                    Brandon Bates
                    Lucero is a must

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                    • Originally posted by r1ck View Post
                      After the draft the possible Gilas pool did improve a bit but most of the bigs need that FIBA exemption

                      FIBA eligible:
                      Deschon Winston
                      Kenneth Tuffin
                      Ricci Rivero
                      Kemark Carino

                      Needs FIBA exemption:
                      Zavier Lucero
                      Luis Villegas
                      Keith Datu
                      Christian David
                      Brandon Bates
                      Is the Hagop rule enforced in 3x3 competitions?

                      Those ineligibles would make good fits as they are all stretch bigs.

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                      • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                        Is the Hagop rule enforced in 3x3 competitions?

                        Those ineligibles would make good fits as they are all stretch bigs.
                        Cstand and Pringle were able to play together in the 3x3 World Cup back in 2018

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                        • Originally posted by joemarksforty View Post
                          Arvin Tolentino is thrash, don't ever include that dude in any gilas iteration. Chris Ross and Cio are retireable right now still like our chances againts Iran tomorrow. Sa China if no cooking show we have a slight shot haha
                          Originally posted by r1ck View Post
                          Agree people were hyping Tolentino because of what he has done with Northport where he has the green light to shoot, the guy is able to put up points because he is their best shooter but he is a defensive liability at the wing position. Ross and Lassitier have slowed down and I think this should be the last time they are called up for the national team. But Im hoping that they get past Iran tomorrow and advance to the semifinals. And if somehow Gilas wins against China in the semifinals to me that is equivalent of a gold medal already lol
                          I was one of those wanting Arvin to go to Gilas as a 6'5" wing who can score, but now, I have Will Navarro, Jamie Malonzo, Calvin Oftana, Francis Lopez, and maybe guys like Caelum Harris above him at the 3. Defense is key at that position.

                          As for Ross and Marcio, yeah, it's time for them to give way to younger players, starting in February. Ross is 38 (and ineligible anyways), and Marcio is 36.

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post



                            I was one of those wanting Arvin to go to Gilas as a 6'5" wing who can score, but now, I have Will Navarro, Jamie Malonzo, Calvin Oftana, Francis Lopez, and maybe guys like Caelum Harris above him at the 3. Defense is key at that position.
                            But but...the Duke and Rhode Island try-out invitations.

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                            • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                              Is the Hagop rule enforced in 3x3 competitions?

                              Those ineligibles would make good fits as they are all stretch bigs.
                              not the same in 5x5. simple, you have passport of your country and reside for at least a year and your good to go as local.. in 3x3 OQT, we parade tautuaa and munzon who are both ineligibles in 5x5 same in 2018 3x3 world cup where CS and pringle are 5x5 ineligibles
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                              • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

                                not the same in 5x5. simple, you have passport of your country and reside for at least a year and your good to go as local.. in 3x3 OQT, we parade tautuaa and munzon who are both ineligibles in 5x5 same in 2018 3x3 world cup where CS and pringle are 5x5 ineligibles
                                I wonder if we pry Ben Mbala out and have him switch nationalities, will FIBA allow him to play in the PHL 3x3 squad even if he had already played for Cameroon's 5x5 NT

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