Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[r1ck]

Imagine if the people running the PBA wasnt so mentally handicapped that they gave some leeway for Sedrick Barefield (26 y/o) to join last year's draft he would have been in the country for more than a year now and it would be so much easier to get him that FIBA exemption to play as a local for our national team

[DAdmiral]

It's not just residency to get exception (otherwise all Japanese resident imports will get exempted). But residency should commence ideally as a minor pr teenager. ( essentially your college years from 18 should be in the country

[ja.he]

It's not just residency to get exception (otherwise all Japanese resident imports will get exempted). But residency should commence ideally as a minor pr teenager. ( essentially your college years from 18 should be in the country

Yes, the formative years should be in the Philippines - either high school or college.

[IPC]

having a team b, that could have started training months ago would have helped, so done with the sbp/pba ad-hoc roster building.

Hoops Highlights had this video a few weeks ago:

He'd have a Team A, Team B, then two youth teams as well, and lineups change on who's available and who's getting better and/or worse.

And, he'd have a system on offense.

[IPC]

Defense really was the difference maker between PInoy-mentored RP teams & foreign-mentored RP team.
I remember even the Rajko Toroman-mentored Gilas-1, natatalo rin ang team na yun but they seldom lose by a big margin. Hindi natatambakan ang team na yun. The same could be said about Tab Baldwin-mentored RP teams.

The opposing team may be outshooting your team but if U play decent defense you'll be able to stay in the game, keep it close until the dying mins./seconds, and who knows, will have a very good chance of stealing the game.

We were 10th in defense in the past World Cup, and we had a really good defense in the 2013 FIBA Asia Championship, and the August and November 2022 windows. I think we might need to build on our defense, then add shooting, both keys to winning in the international game.

We do have good defensive Filipino coaches. Topex Robinson, Goldwin Monteverde, Chito Victolero, and Jeff Napa. Actually, I feel we have more competent defensive local coaches than offensive ones. On offense, it's just Charles Tiu, Aldin Ayo, and maybe Jamike Jarin.

[Rds]

We were 10th in defense in the past World Cup, and we had a really good defense in the 2013 FIBA Asia Championship, and the August and November 2022 windows. I think we might need to build on our defense, then add shooting, both keys to winning in the international game.

We do have good defensive Filipino coaches. Topex Robinson, Goldwin Monteverde, Chito Victolero, and Jeff Napa. Actually, I feel we have more competent defensive local coaches than offensive ones. On offense, it's just Charles Tiu, Aldin Ayo, and maybe Jamike Jarin.

I think we can credit the defense to Edu. Dwight and even Malonzo and minimal JF minutes. Kai also helped.

Kouame was the anchor of Ateneo and Gilas teams that punched above their weight internationally. The fact that he could only play 10 minutes against a Jordan team he is familiar with means he is far from his peak form. Maybe he is holding off surgery to get that Euro contract but if he continues to underperform Im not sure if he can get that contract.

[zairex]

I think we can credit the defense to Edu. Dwight and even Malonzo and minimal JF minutes. Kai also helped.

Kouame was the anchor of Ateneo and Gilas teams that punched above their weight internationally. The fact that he could only play 10 minutes against a Jordan team he is familiar with means he is far from his peak form. Maybe he is holding off surgery to get that Euro contract but if he continues to underperform Im not sure if he can get that contract.

JF was able to defend the paint in WC. The drop defense was effective because of our guards able to fight of the screen better. Which Oftana and Perez were not good at last night. Thats why even the defense strategy the same the personnel and focus was not.

[zairex]

Hoops Highlights had this video a few weeks ago:

He'd have a Team A, Team B, then two youth teams as well, and lineups change on who's available and who's getting better and/or worse.

And, he'd have a system on offense.

I will comment on the plays only. The offense with the twirl is ok if we have a shooter that has quick release. Even Dwight, can he score on against 6'7 like Jeff, Jimmy or Allan C. Teams will just switch this move , again can our player make a play on in against tall opponents. Even just an entry pass to the paint is difficult

[FilWelsh]

I think we can credit the defense to Edu. Dwight and even Malonzo and minimal JF minutes. Kai also helped.

Kouame was the anchor of Ateneo and Gilas teams that punched above their weight internationally. The fact that he could only play 10 minutes against a Jordan team he is familiar with means he is far from his peak form. Maybe he is holding off surgery to get that Euro contract but if he continues to underperform Im not sure if he can get that contract.

Between Mbala & Kouame, for those who had seen them play. Who is a better player?

[Rds]

Between Mbala & Kouame, for those who had seen them play. Who is a better player?

I think Kouame. Basically if you swap Kouame and Mbala in those teams that overachieved they wouldnt have won. Its more of a positional need for us. We need centers more than forwards.

[Rds]

JF was able to defend the paint in WC. The drop defense was effective because of our guards able to fight of the screen better. Which Oftana and Perez were not good at last night. Thats why even the defense strategy the same the personnel and focus was not.

Lets not kid ourselves. From what I saw it was only the DR game that we got away with playing JF. We were just lucky that DR was focused on playing through KAT. In many other games the lead got away when JF was there. There were too many open shots when he was on the court.

Part of Jordans counter run was Freddys two layups against JF. JF was also unwilling to contest an open guard at the 3.

[magic_chiongson]

Lets not kid ourselves. From what I saw it was only the DR game that we got away with playing JF. We were just lucky that DR was focused on playing through KAT. In many other games the lead got away when JF was there. There were too many open shots when he was on the court.

Part of Jordans counter run was Freddys two layups against JF. JF was also unwilling to contest an open guard at the 3.

pretty much, after the DR game JF became a non-factor and/or liability

[DAdmiral]

More like NO need to pay heaps for an NBA mercenaries.
just tap Kouame or Brownlee

sorry wrong trend

[zairex]

Lets not kid ourselves. From what I saw it was only the DR game that we got away with playing JF. We were just lucky that DR was focused on playing through KAT. In many other games the lead got away when JF was there. There were too many open shots when he was on the court.

Part of Jordans counter run was Freddys two layups against JF. JF was also unwilling to contest an open guard at the 3.

I rewatch our game against Angola. You got to tell me when did Angola score on JF drop coverage. its true that our biggest lead was tied was when JF was in the floor but not his fault. To be fair the biggest lead was when Kai was on the floor in the 4th quarter. But also not entirely his fault either.

None of the open shot made by Angola from the outside was JF fault as he wasn't involve with the play. Their was one play that JF was involve that Angola scored on mid range. But it was not JF fault. I let you find it in the 2nd half.

Let be fair and rewatch the game. The reason again why JF weakness on PnR was not exposed so much because of Pogoy, Thompson, JC or dwight fighting the screen to keep the dribbler not to take a quick shot. Which has been the focus of Chot in WC is in our defense and offense was fully on JC.

[JAMSKIE]

Which is BS given what we learned from our PGs in the WC. He should have been invited then. Maybe we could have won one more game..

Yeah, I think I know what U meant, that crucial game against Angola in which guards Iskati Thompson & CJ Perez couldn't bring down the ball under the heavy backcourt pressure by the Anngolans which resulted to costly turnovers. That's the possible downside if U got combo guards or non-legit point guards bringing down the ball under backcourt pressure by the opponent.

It's still significantly different having legit or natural point guards bringing down the ball.

That backcourt press thrown by the Angolans against us would easily be addressed by point guards like Johnny Abarrientos, Jimmy Alapag, Jason Castro.