Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[zuma169]

Again, while exposing younglings to foreign competition is vital and important in the program.. wag naman kalimutan our local leagues.. yes they FLAWS at this moment, but if we keep pushing our talented players to play abroad, our local leagues will diminish and slowly die, and if that happens, that will be the death of basketball, the number 1 sport in the Philippines and the thing we most love.. jobs will be gone, everything..

that is why, aside from encouraging young ones to play abroad, at the same time kalampagin, really push and push and push our local leagues to institute changes no matter what..

you always joke that the PBA die.. if that dies basketball will die in the Philippines.. creating another league as a replacement is not the solution.. we need to institute more fairness and competitiveness in the league that is progressive..

[IPC]

Again, while exposing younglings to foreign competition is vital and important in the program.. wag naman kalimutan our local leagues.. yes they FLAWS at this moment, but if we keep pushing our talented players to play abroad, our local leagues will diminish and slowly die, and if that happens, that will be the death of basketball, the number 1 sport in the Philippines and the thing we most love.. jobs will be gone, everything..

that is why, aside from encouraging young ones to play abroad, at the same time kalampagin, really push and push and push our local leagues to institute changes no matter what..

you always joke that the PBA die.. if that dies basketball will die in the Philippines.. creating another league as a replacement is not the solution.. we need to institute more fairness and competitiveness in the league that is progressive..

Playing abroad should be a temporary solution until the PBA institutes the necessary reform. However, it will take a massive overhaul which will take years. Need someone who has enough guts to institute the necessary changes to make the PBA more competitive in Asian basketball, better-adjusted to FIBA tournaments, and more attractive to 19-22yo players.

[CoJ]

Again, while exposing younglings to foreign competition is vital and important in the program.. wag naman kalimutan our local leagues.. yes they FLAWS at this moment, but if we keep pushing our talented players to play abroad, our local leagues will diminish and slowly die, and if that happens, that will be the death of basketball, the number 1 sport in the Philippines and the thing we most love.. jobs will be gone, everything..

that is why, aside from encouraging young ones to play abroad, at the same time kalampagin, really push and push and push our local leagues to institute changes no matter what..

you always joke that the PBA die.. if that dies basketball will die in the Philippines.. creating another league as a replacement is not the solution.. we need to institute more fairness and competitiveness in the league that is progressive..

pba wont die until smc pulls the plug,. plus theres so many talent available anyway, those who opt to play abroad could easily be replaced

pba should just accept the reality that they cant hold talent forever, and might as well earn from player diaspora, similar to how euro teams earn from buyout clauses.

there’s no shortage of talent, quality might dip but the pba could market their players as the best the country had to offer, like how pogoy is the country’s best shooter (or similar to how kyt jimenez was hyped in soc med)

another thing, the influx of fil-foriegn players ineligible for east asian leagues is another potent source for new talent

[Rds]

pba wont die until smc pulls the plug,. plus theres so many talent available anyway, those who opt to play abroad could easily be replaced

pba should just accept the reality that they cant hold talent forever, and might as well earn from player diaspora, similar to how euro teams earn from buyout clauses.

there’s no shortage of talent, quality might dip but the pba could market their players as the best the country had to offer, like how pogoy is the country’s best shooter (or similar to how kyt jimenez was hyped in soc med)

another thing, the influx of fil-foriegn players ineligible for east asian leagues is another potent source for new talent

It was obvious starting from the batch of Asi that Filfors would be better than homegrowns for a long time. The only thing that stopped this was PBAs stringent requirements on Filfors. Now that PBA has dropped it the floodgates have opened.

[sroth3839]

It was obvious starting from the batch of Asi that Filfors would be better than homegrowns for a long time. The only thing that stopped this was PBAs stringent requirements on Filfors. Now that PBA has dropped it the floodgates have opened.

They should just get rid of the draft and have financial fair play.

Let teams sign whoever the fuck they want as long as it meets the salary cap.

Like, what's the point of having the worst team pick first when that "good" player will be poached anyway?

[sroth3839]

Again, while exposing younglings to foreign competition is vital and important in the program.. wag naman kalimutan our local leagues.. yes they FLAWS at this moment, but if we keep pushing our talented players to play abroad, our local leagues will diminish and slowly die, and if that happens, that will be the death of basketball, the number 1 sport in the Philippines and the thing we most love.. jobs will be gone, everything..

that is why, aside from encouraging young ones to play abroad, at the same time kalampagin, really push and push and push our local leagues to institute changes no matter what..

you always joke that the PBA die.. if that dies basketball will die in the Philippines.. creating another league as a replacement is not the solution.. we need to institute more fairness and competitiveness in the league that is progressive..

I think the PBA will "die" but it's more of a system collapse with a reboot of a new order.

The league dies once the SMC group pulls the plug. I've commented on this before but companies bankrolling the clubs isn't a feasible solution.

There's a reason clubs in Europe are run by clubs themselves with help from sponsors.

We seriously need an overhaul of an archaic system that doesn't work in the long term.

[ARMIR]

I think the PBA will "die" but it's more of a system collapse with a reboot of a new order.

The league dies once the SMC group pulls the plug. I've commented on this before but companies bankrolling the clubs isn't a feasible solution.

There's a reason clubs in Europe are run by clubs themselves with help from sponsors.

We seriously need an overhaul of an archaic system that doesn't work in the long term.

The PBA will die if there is a serious competition from anothe big league,specially if that league can draft the better players and PBA superstar jump league,overseas players are adamant in not playing for PBA and it will just die in the dark.

[DAdmiral]

No one is suggesting scraping local leagues , ( they will all survive , like they do everywhere in the world that has an overseas pathway model) , what needs to change is the emphasis on local leagues and where they control who and how players are developed and even handling of the NT. this is a flawed model. domestic leagues really have no business running the federation on the NT formation.

[CoJ]

The PBA will die if there is a serious competition from anothe big league,specially if that league can draft the better players and PBA superstar jump league,overseas players are adamant in not playing for PBA and it will just die in the dark.

closest thing to that were the Lopezes bankrolling MBA, this was also during the time when SMC and Danding were under trail regarding SMC shares, but when the books show that Lopezes were losing money, they pulled the plug on the project.


Pacquiao is currently selling the MPBL, lets see if the new owners can go challenge the PBA

[reamily]

closest thing to that were the Lopezes bankrolling MBA, this was also during the time when SMC and Danding were under trail regarding SMC shares, but when the books show that Lopezes were losing money, they pulled the plug on the project.


Pacquiao is currently selling the MPBL, lets see if the new owners can go challenge the PBA

i think its the pba that should buy mpbl..this will have them the best division 2 league and a platform fo them if they want to go home and away..

[ARMIR]

closest thing to that were the Lopezes bankrolling MBA, this was also during the time when SMC and Danding were under trail regarding SMC shares, but when the books show that Lopezes were losing money, they pulled the plug on the project.


Pacquiao is currently selling the MPBL, lets see if the new owners can go challenge the PBA

I really hope other than an SMC or PBA will buy the league,like overhaul it to be more profitable.

[paliganibossalfrancis]

i think its the pba that should buy mpbl..this will have them the best division 2 league and a platform fo them if they want to go home and away..

or perhaps the other way around. MPBL buying the PBA... well as of this writing, MPBL is unofficially PBA's division 2 league already. But once MPBL increases the offer sheet to players (let's say one or two independent teams --- ROS, Converge --- gets tired of PBA's parity issues and moves to the MPBL, and the rest of the league and some wealthy PH companies follow suit), that's the start of PBA's demise. MVP and SMC can rot in the PBA with their farm teams.

As the country's Olympic authority,I can't fathom why Bambol and POC don't intervene and recognize the fact that PBA as a league is lagging behind Asian neighbors. And why they are ignoring the importance of ensuring our professional league/s are catering the growth of the athletes in the country's no. 1 sport?

PBA is just flat out banal. They lack competence, creativity and vision to make the league progressive.

[paliganibossalfrancis]

Playing abroad should be a temporary solution until the PBA institutes the necessary reform. However, it will take a massive overhaul which will take years. Need someone who has enough guts to institute the necessary changes to make the PBA more competitive in Asian basketball, better-adjusted to FIBA tournaments, and more attractive to 19-22yo players.

fate of the PBA is in the hands of our youth players. No one in the PBA can change the system but the players. Once ALL the premiere talents decide PBA is not for them, and PBA only gets 2nd-class Filipino talent (already happening now), PBA will be defunct sooner or later.

Thanks to NBL, KBL and BLeague for paying our players what they're worth.

[ARMIR]

or perhaps the other way around. MPBL buying the PBA... well as of this writing, MPBL is unofficially PBA's division 2 league already. But once MPBL increases the offer sheet to players (let's say one or two independent teams --- ROS, Converge --- gets tired of PBA's parity issues and moves to the MPBL, and the rest of the league and some wealthy PH companies follow suit), that's the start of PBA's demise. MVP and SMC can rot in the PBA with their farm teams.

As the country's Olympic authority,I can't fathom why Bambol and POC don't intervene and recognize the fact that PBA as a league is lagging behind Asian neighbors. And why they are ignoring the importance of ensuring our professional league/s are catering the growth of the athletes in the country's no. 1 sport?

PBA is just flat out banal. They lack competence, creativity and vision to make the league progressive.

If the new owners will invest in better players,coaches,making it more enjoyable to watch than the PBA then they will be successful.A two conference league that runs at around 4 mos each,with a second conference an invitational or no height limit imporst and also get some Asian imports,it will make it more interesting.In short everything that the PBA hates to do,do it.

[Dotch]

closest thing to that were the Lopezes bankrolling MBA, this was also during the time when SMC and Danding were under trail regarding SMC shares, but when the books show that Lopezes were losing money, they pulled the plug on the project.


Pacquiao is currently selling the MPBL, lets see if the new owners can go challenge the PBA

First off, PBA owners will never allow MPBL teams to be merged with PBA. These PBA team owners paid a shitload of millions to own franchises, no way they will allowa second rate provincial team owners a piece of the PBA pie.

One thing going for MPBL is they have a somewhat established brand name, and brand recall, and a built in fan base already. They can leverage those, and convince the PBA team owners or the PBA as a collective, to buy out Manny's ownership of the MPBL, lock, stock and barrel. PBA can use MPBL as some sort of Div 2, or a TRUE developmental league.