Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[Giannis34GOD]

New FIBA rankings up. We’re no. 38.

Biggest riser, South Sudan. Up top, biggest climbs were Latvia and Germany.

And biggest surprise, Indonesia and Guam are higher than Taiwan… talking about priorities… they can manage to host Jones cup but not more bigger FIBA Pre OQT last month, and that will be the result… while we didn’t know yet what will be the punishment of both Korea and Taiwan after declining participation last month’s Pre OQT… if they may get suspended then their rankings will go down further…

[thatweirdguy]

I think that is a great idea not only does it raise the level of play but it could also result in possible recruitment of promising foreign players that could be converted to become FIBA eligible as a local for the national team.

Good luck with that. A lot of people are against having FSAs even in the collegiate level. And they are very vocal even in here.

[DAdmiral]

Sensible right rankings
. 21 NZL (Oceania)
22 Venezuela (Amercias)
26 Japan (Asia)
31 South Sudan (Africa - should go up)

Those 4 teams if they played in a tournament would be any one to win, same tier level ..

[JAMSKIE]

And biggest surprise, Indonesia and Guam are higher than Taiwan… talking about priorities… they can manage to host Jones cup but not more bigger FIBA Pre OQT last month, and that will be the result… while we didn’t know yet what will be the punishment of both Korea and Taiwan after declining participation last month’s Pre OQT… if they may get suspended then their rankings will go down further…

Speaking of Taiwan, it is on a rebuilding right now & I think from what the Taiwanese showed in this year's Jones Cup, they are on the right course. They have a good No. of promising players, mostly guards & wingmen. They don't really have promising big men but their wingmen & guards are solid talent wise & size wise. I expect Taiwan to do well in the coming Asian Games. I won't even be surprised if it finishes at the top 4 in Asian Games basketball.

[DAdmiral]

Playing in New Zealand exposed Tuffin to different styles of play which converted him from being a stretch four when he was playing here to a big 6-foot-4 shooting guard and small forward.
https://mb.com.ph/2023/9/16/tuffin-believes-stint-in-nz-nbl-prepared-him-well-for-pba?fbclid=IwAR25l8PsbKBvdgJBf_yY76FhPC6YLbS51j8Nl zCzKxijUMtfaDzfGJdF0Ao

“I kinda left here in the Philippines as a four man in FEU because we didn't have any bigs. Going to New Zealand the system was very European style, it's very systematic and I really like playing that way and obviously I transitioned to two and a three,” said Tuffin.
“Shooting guard and small forward are my natural positions but I can also handle the ball and contribute wherever the team needs me as well,” he added.

Now that is already college ball (FEU) paano pa kaya high school, can a 6'4 player realistically get exposure as a guard in a Philippines High school. Obviously malabo

[DAdmiral]

Realize fil kiwi Richie Rodger is 6'3 who grew up playing mainly PG (Otago) and targeted US colleges, ended up playing a few college years there .
while obviously he didn't make Div1, thr targetted approach and necessary exposure in high school development years (guard skills) has all off sudden made him a more valuable player , than someone like Ricci Rivero..
the latter is obviously more talented (Ricci), but bad development exposure .
See what development approach does.

[mathematicianrcg]

Realize fil kiwi Richie Rodger is 6'3 who grew up playing mainly PG (Otago) and targeted US colleges, ended up playing a few college years there .
while obviously he didn't make Div1, thr targetted approach and necessary exposure in high school development years (guard skills) has all off sudden made him a more valuable player , than someone like Ricci Rivero..
the latter is obviously more talented (Ricci), but bad development exposure .
See what development approach does.

It is sad that playing in and for Philippines is last option though.

As a result, Most Fil Foreign Gilas Prospect level players wasn't able to get a phil passport before 16.

Out of the 12 Fil Foreign First Round draft picks. Only 2 are eligible.

[C2Hamm]

It is sad that playing in and for Philippines is last option though.

As a result, Most Fil Foreign Gilas Prospect level players wasn't able to get a phil passport before 16.

Out of the 12 Fil Foreign First Round draft picks. Only 2 are eligible.

2? I only know tuffin. Who is the other Gilas eligible?

[mathematicianrcg]

2? I only know tuffin. Who is the other Gilas eligible?

Winston.

A Filam 6'4 Guard. Can be a gilas asset if pans out and used correctly

[DAdmiral]

Got offers from Taiwan for 18 to 22 year olds (college age), I tell you younger and more players will go overseas (with better development exposure ), to me it's a step in the right direction, as it's forcing change to be FIBA World level appropriate.

[DAdmiral]

It is sad that playing in and for Philippines is last option though.

As a result, Most Fil Foreign Gilas Prospect level players wasn't able to get a phil passport before 16.

Out of the 12 Fil Foreign First Round draft picks. Only 2 are eligible.

Actually that's the next step improvement, make eligible Fil-foreign who have overseas base development exposure ( like South Sudan). , this can realistically be done for the next generation pipeline by focusing resources to recruiting and streamline passport (with special administration authority from the government) kaya yun

[mathematicianrcg]

2? I only know tuffin. Who is the other Gilas eligible?

https://sports.inquirer.net/483786/schonny-winston-happy-to-be-eligible-to-play-for-gilas-pilipinas-as-local

[C2Hamm]

https://sports.inquirer.net/483786/s...pinas-as-local

ah. nice to know. i wouldnt touch him with a 10ft pole for any team. but happy for him.

[IPC]

We risk losing four players: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/...a1374-20230918

An appeal to include Perkins and Abueva in the 12-man lineup is denied, and Bambol Tolentino will appeal the denial. Worse, Terrence and Mo could be expelled from the lineup. Risk of going down to 8 men.

If Gilas manage to get far with just 8 men in the lineup, credit to Cone and the players. Still, there were 60 men in the pool. Who were the players in the pool that Cone had to resort to getting Abueva and Perkins, who were both out of the pool?

Knowing Choke he probably included his baby boy Kib Montalbo on that 60 man list LOL

Coach Bahala Na: "Matagal pa yan Asian Games na yan. i just list down 60 names ng possible players from pba, college and foreign leagues. No need to ask for permission or set a meeting to discuss" "2-3 months from now pa naman yan e...bahala na"

"if i need to make some changes or encounter any problems...i will just call my papa MVP to solve them..right papa MVP?

galing sa foresight indeed, and they knew there will be concerns and issues with the overseas players getting clearance from their teams since this is not a fiba event.

Stupid pinoy casual fans on social media commenting on how China is doing another cooking show on us by not allowing Abueva and Perkins...LOL...not bothering to know the real reasons why (the 2 were not part of the original 60 names submitted to the comittee months back). This is all on Cone and SBP. I cannot believe that Cone who is supposed to be a "great" coach overlooked this, and SBP allowing it to get this far, even getting the players to practice with them and show off pa to the fans (paasa effect). So who the F was responsible for listing the 60 names and why is it not public and even worse, why can't Cone just choose whoever was available from the existing list?? Unless the names on there were useless to him that he had to pull names from the outside??

Gawd the SBP and project director Chot are so effing INEPT.

Papa Mvp: "Coach can you do the job?"

Coach Bahala na: "Yes Boss Papa, i can do it...I can do the job. I can coach in the PBA and Gilas. I can also be the Program Director Boss Papa...para makatipid ka rin"

"Just add Php 200k per month to my existing salary of Php 500k. Makatipid ka boss Papa. I can do the job well, and I also can dress well for you Boss Papa. Would a 300k suit please you Boss Papa? Laban Puso at Bahala na!"

Coach Bahala Na: "I will list JC in the 60 man list. As we can surely win in World Cup because we have a big PUSO! When we win JC will join us in Asia Games because he can feel our PUSO too. I don't care about the NBA because only me and my team has the real PUSO!

I think this is a clear sign that the SBP leadership have to go. We have stooges running the show.

[BJ_Reloaded]

This is one of the wisdom of that provision on FIBA's newly revised Eligibility Rules related to the paragraph about "in the interest of the basketball development in the country". we've already learned that one of the main wisdom or idea of the said paragraph is all about strong domestic connection at a young age..I think Jason Perkins had already satisfied all the checklist for exemption when he obtained his Philippine Passport during his "daisy years".

However, that’s not the only thing special for Perkins in his 10th year in the Philippines.

Like Newsome a year ago, Perkins is hoping to be classified as a local in the eyes of FIBA.

The 30-year-old native of Shakopee, Minnesota checks all the criteria, having graduated from De La Salle University, played in the PBA for the last six years, and even set up a business in the country.

“Siyempre! I didn’t even know about that, but yeah, I should do that. I’m excited,” said Perkins about the prospect of being able to compete in FIBA competitions as a local.

https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/like-newsome-perkins-hopes-to-gain-local-status-in-fiba/281748

Note:
Setting up a Business, helping the community thru charity works, basketball clinics, humanitarian works for less privileged people has a strong merits as well..

Hello Eric Gordon and idol Klay Thompson.