Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[IPC]

We hate Longhair with what he said to Tab.

We also hate it how they sabotaged the PBA

But he has connections in both UAAP, NCAA and others. Maybe thru his watch we can finally have a cohesive schedule, a true Seniors, Juniors level.

3 straight championships for Letran, championship after championship in the PBA, and Tim Cone said and that Long hair is a doer and can make the Gilas program improve leaps and bounds.

In the end, thats all we want...we want to win. We can forgive him if he can really make us win. Winning is all that matters and if his attitude is win at all cost....we must welcome this with open arms.

Player development's kind of concerning, though. The Letran 3-peat didn't exactly produce any Gilas-level players apart from Abando. Ambohot sana, but he might just turn into another Troy. And the players there are just pang-Pilipinas lang. As for SMC, only Scottie and Malonzo developed into Gilas-level players, and they underperformed in the WC. June Mar was already Gilas-level when Boss was appointed as SMC sports director, and Perez was already Gilas-level when SMB traded for him.

Let's see. If he does make us win and does what's necessary to overhaul the NT program, from the juniors to seniors level, then great. I hope he can do that, if he is the program manager. At least Ginebra was built into an international-style team under his watch. He needs to do that for Gilas now, from youth to senior level. And be willing to engage in sponsoring good prospects for overseas training.

[Metta]

Also have to take into account the ability to limit the competition to gain an advantage. Banning FSA's and enabling farm system have been key to winning.

Will it be possible to bend/change rules to our advantage at the international level?

Now we will see if the ability to win is not just because of favorable conditions.

[sroth3839]

Player development's kind of concerning, though. The Letran 3-peat didn't exactly produce any Gilas-level players apart from Abando. Ambohot sana, but he might just turn into another Troy. And the players there are just pang-Pilipinas lang. As for SMC, only Scottie and Malonzo developed into Gilas-level players, and they underperformed in the WC. June Mar was already Gilas-level when Boss was appointed as SMC sports director, and Perez was already Gilas-level when SMB traded for him.

Let's see. If he does make us win and does what's necessary to overhaul the NT program, from the juniors to seniors level, then great. I hope he can do that, if he is the program manager. At least Ginebra was built into an international-style team under his watch. He needs to do that for Gilas now, from youth to senior level. And be willing to engage in sponsoring good prospects for overseas training.

Sounds like a Lakers approach. Tbh

The Lakers win stuff but they’re not exactly known for developing talent.

Maybe just leave talent development some place else?

The Gilas program is run like a business anyways, so win-now will always be the no. 1 priority.

[IPC]

Sounds like a Lakers approach. Tbh

The Lakers win stuff but they’re not exactly known for developing talent.

Maybe just leave talent development some place else?

The Gilas program is run like a business anyways, so win-now will always be the no. 1 priority.

Oh yeah, if we want to win, we need a good system, implemented from juniors to seniors. Start with instilling a good system into the juniors program. Chemistry is important too so it's easier to hugot.

[JAMSKIE]

Also have to take into account the ability to limit the competition to gain an advantage. Banning FSA's and enabling farm system have been key to winning.

Will it be possible to bend/change rules to our advantage at the international level?

Now we will see if the ability to win is not just because of favorable conditions.

I like the way U put it in your last sentence - the ability to win even under unfavorable conditions.

Its a lot different kasi winning becoz masyadong yamado ang team mo (like super loaded with talent yung team mo while the opposing team is in wanting of talent tapos kakampi mo pa yung mga refs) than winning on an even playing field. Moreso winning under unfavorable conditions.

Has SMC won under unfavorable conditions?

[Kaireem]

loaded team wins, the classic pinoy hater retort "llamado eh" but if said team loses same hater will go "lakas lakas na natalo pa, b*b* ng coach"

so sad to see so many haters in the world

but i bet if their foreigner apple of the eye was the coach, they'll come up with all sorts of excuses when he loses ahahahaha

[gilasfan]

If long hair is truly a winner and in order to win in the world stage is to adapt ....then he should adapt too.

I'm bullish and positive even if he has many haters and targeted our beloved tab.

Fact is that he is head and his focus is basketball is good. Much better than the past regime...wherein the head is the ceo of pldt...basketball targets will be an after thought and lease priority.

The ideal setting is still the head is 100% focus on the national program. But long hair era will still be head and shoulders above the other Al era.

Tim cone also in the press con also said longhair called him every 6 minutes. He seems to be the persistent kind of guy. Then that's great then for us.

[gilasfan]

Lets just give long hair a chance. Its different being in charge vs not.

Case example...Isko Moreno as Manila Vice mayor didn't do anything. But Isko 3 years as mayor was able to do things wherein others do in 20 years. And that is amidst of the pandemic.

[Rds]

If long hair is truly a winner and in order to win in the world stage is to adapt ....then he should adapt too.

I'm bullish and positive even if he has many haters and targeted our beloved tab.

Fact is that he is head and his focus is basketball is good. Much better than the past regime...wherein the head is the ceo of pldt...basketball targets will be an after thought and lease priority.

The ideal setting is still the head is 100% focus on the national program. But long hair era will still be head and shoulders above the other Al era.

Tim cone also in the press con also said longhair called him every 6 minutes. He seems to be the persistent kind of guy. Then that's great then for us.

Im not impressed with long hair. But compared to Panlilio he is light years ahead in terms of basketball. However, even if before their reign began I have seen SMCs bad tendencies already in the non-inclusion of Bollick and Baltazar. Guys that have gotten the ire of SMC. This was to the detriment of the team. With the way all the PGs performed, it is not hard to imagine with Bollick there we couldve won a non-classification game.

I just hope that RSA intervenes if Long Hair fails because of these tendencies. The same way RSA allowed Arwind to be moved from SMB, after years before changing several coaches in part because Arwind was not happy with his role in the team. I hope RSA knows how to yank his man if the results are bad, unlike MVP.

[Rds]

Lets just give long hair a chance. Its different being in charge vs not.

Case example...Isko Moreno as Manila Vice mayor didn't do anything. But Isko 3 years as mayor was able to do things wherein others do in 20 years. And that is amidst of the pandemic.

I dont think Isko is a good example. Manilenyos were hopeful with his stance on cleanliness and citizenship. But for me it turned out to be lip service. The guy talked about cleaning Divisoria but it turned out he sold Divisoria and other properties for billions to a company with unclear owners and offshore accounts. You know a guy is all talk when after he sold Manilas properties he ran for President of all positions instead of actually improving Manila as he promised. He raised a lot of campaign money but seemed more interested in sowing intrigue with Leni instead of campaigning. Although he did some good in his 3 years it was not enough when as a first time mayor he sold Manilas prized properties. Going to Manila takes so long now because they only started fixing Lagusnilad only now instead of in the summer. The mayor is his partymate by the ways and former vice.

[JAMSKIE]

With this Justin Baltazar controversy, it would be very interesting to know whether Robert Bolick got an invitation for the World Cup or not. Its hard to imagine that a player who was among the few bright spots of the ill-fated 2019 World Cup Gilas team was left out in the 2023 World Cup. Add to think that there were only 2 natural point guards in the World Cup pool (Thompson & Kiefer), and at one time Thompson was doubtful becoz of the hand injury he suffered during Gilas' training camp in Europe. Unless of course Bolick got the invite but turned it down.

If Bolick got invited but he turned it down then that wud speak something of his character. But if Bolick wasn't invited at all, then that would speak a lot of Chot's character as well as that of the SBP.

[IPC]

Sounds like a Lakers approach. Tbh

The Lakers win stuff but they’re not exactly known for developing talent.

Maybe just leave talent development some place else?

The Gilas program is run like a business anyways, so win-now will always be the no. 1 priority.

Japan sticking with its focus on player development and long preparation. Only one player from their world cup squad, while the rest are young prospects. And the team has been practicing for the Asian Games since June.
We'll see in a couple of years how Taiwan will fare using a similar strategy (albeit with a much smaller population).

Meanwhile, in another part of Asia...people can't figure out whether a player got a phone call or not.

SBP does love side-quests and procrastinating hahaha, no futures thinking

And, well, the one of the powers, duties, and responsibilities of an NSA (like SBP) under RA 6847 is "[t]o adopt, in coordination with the Philippine Olympic Committee, a training program for the development of the athletes and their preparation for international competitions..."

Development and preparation is literally a mandate laid down by law. Not just SBP, but every NSA. The PSC doesn't have the power to take over, though.

[Silent Killer]

FIBA won’t change things on naturalization

[thatweirdguy]

With this Justin Baltazar controversy, it would be very interesting to know whether Robert Bolick got an invitation for the World Cup or not. Its hard to imagine that a player who was among the few bright spots of the ill-fated 2019 World Cup Gilas team was left out in the 2023 World Cup. Add to think that there were only 2 natural point guards in the World Cup pool (Thompson & Kiefer), and at one time Thompson was doubtful becoz of the hand injury he suffered during Gilas' training camp in Europe. Unless of course Bolick got the invite but turned it down.

If Bolick got invited but he turned it down then that wud speak something of his character. But if Bolick wasn't invited at all, then that would speak a lot of Chot's character as well as that of the SBP.

Wasn't there an article a few months ago about him being available and waiting for an invite? How about SJ and RJ?

[Silent Killer]

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