Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[IPC]

FIBA Asia cup will be scheduled by July 2022, right after the 3rd window of WC qualifiers (June 27-July 5)...

Ayun, this won't interfere with the UAAP season. We can get as many amateurs as we like.

[JAMSKIE]

FIBA Asia cup will be scheduled by July 2022, right after the 3rd window of WC qualifiers (June 27-July 5)...

I think this a good timing which would make Kai Sotto more likely available for that tournament. Kasi kung sa August next year na schedule yung Asia Cup, Kai might already be busy in attending NBA summer leagues by that time.

Also, by that time, summer vacation na sa US which would also make guys like AJ Edu, Cholo Anonuevo & Dalph Panopio available.

[Stevy]

I think this a good timing which would make Kai Sotto more likely available for that tournament. Kasi kung sa August next year na schedule yung Asia Cup, Kai might already be busy in attending NBA summer leagues by that time.

Also, by that time, summer vacation na sa US which would also make guys like AJ Edu, Cholo Anonuevo & Dalph Panopio available.

If this team continues to have training bubbles, pocket tournaments, games with the PBA, qualifiers in november and etc. I really like our chances for a top 3 finish if Jordan's relocation appeal won't be approved. I expect a very cohesive unit next year with Kai, Edu, Dalph and etc.

I also wonder if Clarkson will join us for the Asian Games! Would be a nice preview for 2023, Clarkson with the Gilas boys would be a sight to see!

[Stevy]

Except for games with PBA teams. Those are virtually useless unless they have 2 imports each. Playing with PBa rules is ridiculous when you are preparing for FIBA rules. Besides hindi papayag ang PBA na mapahiya. For sure the refs will rig the calls just like when Toroman coached Gilas 1 in the PBA. Remember the Arboleda incident/

Well games with the PBA are better compared to their own scrimmages in their bubble training. You are right about the purpose of it being useless if they stick with PBA rules though but I believe that they are not that incompetent. About the incident in the toroman gilas, it is much better to set that aside. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. Gilas should be regularly tested whether it is in pocket tournaments, PBA games or both.

[neo]

Well games with the PBA are better compared to their own scrimmages in their bubble training. You are right about the purpose of it being useless if they stick with PBA rules though but I believe that they are not that incompetent. About the incident in the toroman gilas, it is much better to set that aside. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. Gilas should be regularly tested whether it is in pocket tournaments, PBA games or both.

only if they compete as a regular team with a chance to play for d title.

d title does not matter, but it would make d pba teams take d game seriously. kasi kung exhibition lang e pwede nayang close-door sa gym.

fiba rule or not, it will contribute to their development, especially for d 9 gilas pros (and even d college players in case college games are still prohibited early next year).

d pba stint can provide opportunity for mastery of d system, building cohesion and chemistry, and competing in games with high stakes for d opponents. it will also allow gilas players to practice their defense against teams dependent on star players.

[Stevy]

only if they compete as a regular team with a chance to play for d title.

d title does not matter, but it would make d pba teams take d game seriously. kasi kung exhibition lang e pwede nayang close-door sa gym.

fiba rule or not, it will contribute to their development, especially for d 9 gilas pros (and even d college players in case college games are still prohibited early next year).

d pba stint can provide opportunity for mastery of d system, building cohesion and chemistry, and competing in games with high stakes for d opponents. it will also allow gilas players to practice their defense against teams dependent on star players.

You have a point, I do think that if there are no pocket tournaments available then the best course of action would be to join the PBA but I do believe that pocket tournaments will be available so I am leaning more on maximizing their preparations. Maybe a close door exhibition would be better like you said, or weekly games because A full commitment to the PBA will not allow them to fly out for pocket tournaments.

[zairex]

What rule that PBA has that will be so problematic in adapting Fiba rules?

[deku_midoriya]

What rule that PBA has that will be so problematic in adapting Fiba rules?

Aside from the 12-min quarters and number of timeouts, and timeout on the floor, what others rule differences ba?

[Tuck]

Physical play is one based of fans here rhey wanna see physical no blood no foul type plays. The pba has adjusted to that. Far cry from fiba which is the medium and the nba which favors the offensive player

[deku_midoriya]

Physical play is one based of fans here rhey wanna see physical no blood no foul type plays. The pba has adjusted to that. Far cry from fiba which is the medium and the nba which favors the offensive player

Nakasulat ba sa rule book ng pba yan? The pba allows highly physical plays? You're so out of touch.

[TheRodster21]

I mean prior to this Tab Baldwin team that actually doesn’t foul so often to the point Koreans suspected foul play. Look at history of Gilas in international games and how often the team goes into the penalty first

[JAMSKIE]

You have a point, I do think that if there are no pocket tournaments available then the best course of action would be to join the PBA but I do believe that pocket tournaments will be available so I am leaning more on maximizing their preparations. Maybe a close door exhibition would be better like you said, or weekly games because A full commitment to the PBA will not allow them to fly out for pocket tournaments.

We can't expect many pocket tournaments & tune-up games vs. other National teams by mid-September or October becoz by that time, FIBA or international basketball season would be over and the pro leagues of countries all over the world would start their respective season or would be starting its preparation. Hence, almost all (if not all) the national teams all over the world would be breaking camps already by mid-September. Sino pa makaka tune up ng Gilas?

Gilas option would be to tune up with foreign pro teams like that of NBL-Australia or Japan's B-league or Korea's KBL pro teams. Problem would be the travel restrictions.

Kung ganoon lang sana kadali pumuntang Australia ang Gilas team to tune up with NBL teams, then why not? That would be the best option. Eh kaso yung travel restrictions nga.

[IPC]

I mean prior to this Tab Baldwin team that actually doesn’t foul so often to the point Koreans suspected foul play. Look at history of Gilas in international games and how often the team goes into the penalty first

Yeah, the leeway given is seen by the fouls committed in games.

Even in the first FIBA Asia qualifying window, we committed a lot of reach-in fouls. And furthermore, kahit sa PBA, a number of teams get into the penalty quite early.

[JAMSKIE]

I mean prior to this Tab Baldwin team that actually doesn’t foul so often to the point Koreans suspected foul play. Look at history of Gilas in international games and how often the team goes into the penalty first

Yeah bro. I think that's the consesus here in IBN that whenever a local coach handles our National team, nahihirapan ang mga players natin mag adjust sa tawagan ng fouls in the FIBA game. Our team just raked up too many fouls that is why we usually gave up too many freethrows. In a close game, the disparity in freethrows between our team & the opposing team would make a big difference.

As most people would tell us, the physicality in the PBA is different from that of the FIBA game. At iba talaga tawagan ng fouls sa FIBA kisa sa PBA.

[Rds]

Yeah, the leeway given is seen by the fouls committed in games.

Even in the first FIBA Asia qualifying window, we committed a lot of reach-in fouls. And furthermore, kahit sa PBA, a number of teams get into the penalty quite early.

Yes. PBA players tend to reach in and hand check more instead of just bodying up. Body checks and hip checks are given more leeway in Fiba. I mean they still get called but are not automatic fouls as when you reach in.