Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[digitalsuperman]

I actually have the same question. Do we really need the PBA? Only indispensable players now are Malonzo and Navarro, because they're the ones that are hard to replace for now.

as what tab said, the best players is in the PBA. so yes. we need the PBA. pwede naman to compose team from MPBL but is that what gilas fans wants?

[IPC]

as what tab said, the best players is in the PBA. so yes. we need the PBA. pwede naman to compose team from MPBL but is that what gilas fans wants?

A lot of those best players are old or aging, though. Only useful PBA players under 30 in my view are Navarro (26), Malonzo (27), Oftana (27), Mamuyac (24), Black (27), and Tio (25). Perez will turn 30 this year. Scottie's already 30. Need to think of the long run also.

OK, we still need the PBA, but I don't think we need it that much.

[digitalsuperman]

A lot of those best players are old or aging, though. Only useful PBA players under 30 in my view are Navarro (26), Malonzo (27), Oftana (27), Mamuyac (24), Black (27), and Tio (25). Perez will turn 30 this year. Scottie's already 30. Need to think of the long run also.

OK, we still need the PBA, but I don't think we need it that much.

yes. old and aging. case in point look at what junmar now is doing compared to young and internationaly trained kai soto?

[IPC]

yes. old and aging. case in point look at what junmar now is doing compared to young and internationaly trained kai soto?

That's just June Mar, though. The other 30yo PBA players: Pogoy's replaceable. Japeth's 36. Scottie played poorly this WC

Point is, we need just a few outstanding PBA players at their positions.

[JAMSKIE]

I actually have the same question. Do we really need the PBA? Only indispensable players now are Malonzo and Navarro, because they're the ones that are hard to replace for now.

Isn't Ken Tuffin applying for this year's PBA draft? We may need this guy for Gilas. He's a good size natural wingman who can shoot the 3 & play defense. He may not be as good offensively as a Dwight Ramos, but if his defense can come close to the level of a prime Gabe Norwood then Tuffin can be serviceable for Gilas in my opinion.

[digitalsuperman]

That's just June Mar, though. The other 30yo PBA players: Pogoy's replaceable. Japeth's 36. Scottie played poorly this WC

Point is, we need just a few outstanding PBA players at their positions.

well to tell you honestly, those who you mentioned who played poorly are the outstanding players in the past year. all of those played in multiple championships. sure they played poorly but in the PBA they are outstanding.

[IPC]

Isn't Ken Tuffin applying for this year's PBA draft? We may need this guy for Gilas. He's a good size natural wingman who can shoot the 3 & play defense. He may not be as good offensively as a Dwight Ramos, but if his defense can come close to the level of a prime Gabe Norwood then Tuffin can be serviceable for Gilas in my opinion.

well to tell you honestly, those who you mentioned who played poorly are the outstanding players in the past year. all of those played in multiple championships. sure they played poorly but in the PBA they are outstanding.

I kinda generalized, sorry. Maybe we might need more PBA players than what I think (which are just Navarro and Malonzo thus far, who are the hard-to-replace ones in my view).

It's just that, I think we don't need too many PBA players after this point, not many of those guys are irreplaceable at the FIBA level. I'm just pissed off at the SBP for discontinuing what could have been a promising program, and the PBA for hijacking it and just filling the roster with stars instead of helping with the program. Now we have to start from start from scratch again.

[Dotch]

A lot of those best players are old or aging, though. Only useful PBA players under 30 in my view are Navarro (26), Malonzo (27), Oftana (27), Mamuyac (24), Black (27), and Tio (25). Perez will turn 30 this year. Scottie's already 30. Need to think of the long run also.

OK, we still need the PBA, but I don't think we need it that much.

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PBA has an age problem, and is concerning. Those who are in the age of 22-30, you can only count in 1 hand, who have superstar potential. Malonzo, Navarro....uhmmmm Ricci and Balti???

The supposed CURRENT batch of superstars ( Kieffer, Bollick, Parks, Wright, ) all left for the much better league in Japan. Age 27-30.
The NEXT batch of superstars, the players that will carry the torch for the PBA in the next 5-10 years, didnt even think of applying for the draft (Paras, Dwight, RJ, SJ, Edu, JDGL, Carl, Rhenz, Thirdy) and went straight abroad Age 22-26

[shootingbwakaw]

Isn't Ken Tuffin applying for this year's PBA draft? We may need this guy for Gilas. He's a good size natural wingman who can shoot the 3 & play defense. He may not be as good offensively as a Dwight Ramos, but if his defense can come close to the level of a prime Gabe Norwood then Tuffin can be serviceable for Gilas in my opinion.

maybe he'll get his chance once Pogoy retires

[r1ck]

Come to think of it Gilas has some promising young players (Lebron Lopez, Kenneth Tuffin, Mason Amos, Schonny Winston) that they could develop. And if the rumors are true that Dalph Panopio is transferring to Ateneo next season then Gilas could have that pure point guard that it needs.

[Rds]

I think if TC is in charge he’ll get the good rookies and younger players. Since we’re starting again it makes sense to pick younger players. JB will probly be the NP. Who will be the C among the young guys? Is Laput eligible?

The good thing about TC is he is a decent development coach. And he is not as asa sa import as you think. I think JB has the least minutes among imports. TC manages JBs minutes so he is used to importless 5s.

[JOI2dWorld]

I think if TC is in charge he’ll get the good rookies and younger players. Since we’re starting again it makes sense to pick younger players. JB will probly be the NP. Who will be the C among the young guys? Is Laput eligible?

The good thing about TC is he is a decent development coach. And he is not as asa sa import as you think. I think JB has the least minutes among imports. TC manages JBs minutes so he is used to importless 5s.

I am not surprised with how the way scottie played in this World Cup first he do not have enough time to prepare with the team due to injury, second the system that CTC run is totally different from what is chot was trying to run, in Ginebra its very rare for someone to do iso plays , yes sometimes coach Tim gives leeway to Pringle when was just new with the team, though there were times that CTC play Brownlee the whole game but mostly during playoffs or in the finals , that is why i agree that Scottie and Jamie might be more effective in a CTB team than a Chot reyes team, as even in 2012-2014 when Magnolia was dominating in the PBA it's only Marc Pingris who plays well with the national team and also given to the fact that one player per team lang pwede

[PaulLee3]

PBA MVP Scottie Thompson has more turnover (8.) than score (5) and assist (7) in the group stage of FIBA World Cup.

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[PaulLee3]

Kai Sotto and Iskati Thompson are the least valuable players of Gilas Pilipinas.

[r1ck]

I think if TC is in charge he’ll get the good rookies and younger players. Since we’re starting again it makes sense to pick younger players. JB will probly be the NP. Who will be the C among the young guys? Is Laput eligible?

The good thing about TC is he is a decent development coach. And he is not as asa sa import as you think. I think JB has the least minutes among imports. TC manages JBs minutes so he is used to importless 5s.

I dont think Laput is eligible. In the PBA pool after Fajardo the Center position is rather thin. The next tallest eligible players are Japeth Aguilar, Poy Erram, Ian Sanggalang and Raymond Almazan all are old and injury prone. The only notable young center the PBA has is Justin Arana but he is undersized at 6'6" and the guy has no consistent jump shot.