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  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

    If U look at Perez' decision making & passing, its not really within the level of a legit point guard. I think Chris Newsome is even a better passer than Perez. U can see in Perez' game that he looks to shoot than to pass. That's becoz he has played as a wingman (a shooting guard/off-guard) for almost his entire playing career. Perhaps if Perez started playing as a point guard or a combo guard when he was 23 or 24, then his decision making, orchestration & passing would be significantly better.
    Hopefully CJ will have a better showing tonight. Newsome is a good ball handler and defender but is a bad 3 pt shooter.

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    • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
      for a country devoid of height and a generation exposed to curry and nowitzki, i still dont get why we dont prioritize shooting.
      ​And for a generation exposed to bigs like Bam Adebayo and Draymond Green, and also I don't get why we don't produce more 6'5"-6'8" bigs who can defend the perimeter, and still more bigs who can't defend the perimeter like Paolo Javillonar, Beau Belga, and the like.

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      • Originally posted by Rds View Post

        Hopefully CJ will have a better showing tonight. Newsome is a good ball handler and defender but is a bad 3 pt shooter.
        With Iskati Thompson back, Perez can slide to his natural position which is the 2-guard, so I expect Perez to play well now.

        I think the perfect wing player to partner with Clarkson is Rayray Parks since Parks doesn't have the go-to-guy mentality & is more than willing to take a backseat in scoring & would just be content on facilitating & being a kickout option from the 3-pt zone. When Clarkson heads the bench, then that would be the time to field a go-to-guy type of a player like CJ Perez.
        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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        • Originally posted by Rds View Post

          Hopefully CJ will have a better showing tonight. Newsome is a good ball handler and defender but is a bad 3 pt shooter.
          Newsome's 3-pt shooting may be suspect but his medium range pull up jumper is money. It was in full display during the recent SEA Games. But as experts have said, the medium range shooting is a lost art in modern basketball.
          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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          • I see a dangerous Chinese Taipei team in about 2 years time. They are solid in the guard & wing positions. 6-foot-3 Benson Lin is a very skilled combo guard & is still young. 6-foot-2 Abassi is a solid shooting guard with good skills & athleticism. Then you got the Hinton brothers who are really promising. Taiwan's weakness however is in the big men positions.
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • Originally posted by ja.he View Post

              But we have the likes of Abando, Pogoy, Thirdy, and used to have the likes of Meneses, Duremdes, Paul Alvarez, Jolas, James Yap, Cyrus Baguio, Dondon Hontiveros - 6'1-6'3 shooting guards. These guys may not be as athletic as the Dominicans but may be at par with the Mexicans.

              ​​​​​​Telling that our homegrown players are just at par with the East Asians are downright insulting to these guys.
              ​My dream shooting guards: 6-foot-4 versions of Dondon Hontiveros & Marcio Lassiter. Dondon & Marcio were/are good shooters & good defenders as well. They are athletic as well.

              My dream small forwards: 6-foot-6 Rayray Parks & 6-foot-7 Dwight Ramos.
              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                ​My dream shooting guards: 6-foot-4 versions of Dondon Hontiveros & Marcio Lassiter. Dondon & Marcio were/are good shooters & good defenders as well. They are athletic as well.

                My dream small forwards: 6-foot-6 Rayray Parks & 6-foot-7 Dwight Ramos.

                I would have settled for both of them at 6'5,maybe the next generation will have a better version at least 6'6

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                • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                  I see a dangerous Chinese Taipei team in about 2 years time. They are solid in the guard & wing positions. 6-foot-3 Benson Lin is a very skilled combo guard & is still young. 6-foot-2 Abassi is a solid shooting guard with good skills & athleticism. Then you got the Hinton brothers who are really promising. Taiwan's weakness however is in the big men positions.
                  They hire very good african imports in their collegiate leafues and might do a kouame route with them so..the big men problem might be resolves in years time maybe after artinos prime years
                  To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                  1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                    Worst case scenario in the Gilas final 12-man roster: Pogoy & Thirdy Ravena make it while Parks & Abando don't.
                    doesnt matter that much. even if any 2 combination is selected, their job is to shoot 3s (except thirdy). Pogoy will hit a 3 or 2 plus some defense. Abando will get his highlight block and probably shoot another 1 or 2 e3. Parks will do nothing but shoot 3 and might make more than the other 2 while if ever Thirdy gets in, we'll just see him in the face of some player for a few mins.

                    all good, i wish them luck but if you look at it overall, Pogoy, Parks, and Abando will do the same thing so it doesnt matter who gets picked. Thirdy hasnt played to his usual self the past few months and his lack of shooting really hurts his chances.
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                    • Originally posted by reamily View Post

                      They hire very good african imports in their collegiate leafues and might do a kouame route with them so..the big men problem might be resolves in years time maybe after artinos prime years
                      Yes Sir, probably they will maximize that exemption as per FIBA’s provision and eventually tag them as locals which will eventually resolve their problem in the 4 and 5 position.

                      Well as for our National Federation, were still hoping that AK34 may eventually granted depending on what’s on SBP’s bucket list.

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                      • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post

                        doesnt matter that much. even if any 2 combination is selected, their job is to shoot 3s (except thirdy). Pogoy will hit a 3 or 2 plus some defense. Abando will get his highlight block and probably shoot another 1 or 2 e3. Parks will do nothing but shoot 3 and might make more than the other 2 while if ever Thirdy gets in, we'll just see him in the face of some player for a few mins.

                        all good, i wish them luck but if you look at it overall, Pogoy, Parks, and Abando will do the same thing so it doesnt matter who gets picked. Thirdy hasnt played to his usual self the past few months and his lack of shooting really hurts his chances.
                        That is how people should analyze the process of choosing. A lot of people do not realize, for the players that down on the rotation, he's basically a role player. Now coaches have to assess what role do they think will be needed most or would be most useful in situations they anticipate. Is it a shooter, a defender or a momentum spark, etc.

                        People are evaluating the players in their entirety when they will only be used for a role.

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                        • Originally posted by Metta View Post

                          That is how people should analyze the process of choosing. A lot of people do not realize, for the players that down on the rotation, he's basically a role player. Now coaches have to assess what role do they think will be needed most or would be most useful in situations they anticipate. Is it a shooter, a defender or a momentum spark.

                          People are evaluating the players in their entirety when they will only be used for a role.
                          NBL’s best shooter/scorer chris goulding is relegated to just shoot 3’s whenever he plays for boomers with end of qtr minutes 2-3 minutes and around maybe 8 mpg with boomers..


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                          • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                            Coach Rajko along with our beloved PBA figures watched the motenegro-gilas game.. Hmm i hope Long Hair or who ever takes over sbp consider hiring rajko as a consultant
                            Or better yet, let him run the whole damn thing. From top to bottom.

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                            • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                              Or better yet, let him run the whole damn thing. From top to bottom.
                              The fragile egos of old men in SBP and PBA will not allow this.

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                              • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                                Or better yet, let him run the whole damn thing. From top to bottom.
                                and hire young local coaches for knowledge transfer. we need more charles tiu in phil basketball

                                but as greenarcher said, our nationalist bcap and pba board won’t like this

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