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  • #8146
    Originally posted by B L A C K S U N View Post

    LOL. What do you want us to do, riot? Losing is just part of the game, how important that competition anyway? It's nothingburger compared to what Tab has achieved and contributed to Philippine basketball already. You're talking like there's a huge stake in that loss.

    Judging how Kai barely improved his game despite him playing in superior leagues, he might just as well play with Tab. Tab would hone his skill and make him a better player. Sure, that might be terrible idea financially, but given how mediocre of a player he still is, it's not the worse thing that could happen to him.
    I think Kai's game has improved a lot. I remember him being unable to run in u16s. I just think Kai was really overrated as a prospect by certain groups. Its the modern game, Kai game isnt really built for it.

    Also Im comparing the reaction to Tab losing twice in the WUBS to the reaction to the Jones Cup losses of RoS. Both tourneys really dont matter I agree but reactions are so different and my belief is that certain types just want to hyperfocus on the PBA instead of seeing the larger problems of our program.

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    • #8147
      isn't it Ateneo with Tab won WUBS championship last year? Compared to the PBA what have they done to improve PH basketball. none, still stuck in the 90s best league in asia kuno can't even hire import above 6'9 lol

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      • #8148
        Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post

        I think Kai's game has improved a lot. I remember him being unable to run in u16s. I just think Kai was really overrated as a prospect by certain groups. Its the modern game, Kai game isnt really built for it.

        Also Im comparing the reaction to Tab losing twice in the WUBS to the reaction to the Jones Cup losses of RoS. Both tourneys really dont matter I agree but reactions are so different and my belief is that certain types just want to hyperfocus on the PBA instead of seeing the larger problems of our program.
        Maybe because PBA is a pro league and, supposedly, the league where the country's best players are playing whereas UAAP is still, by name, a collegiate league where players are still developing their game. For me, it comes down with the name and reputation.
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        • #8149
          Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post

          I think Kai's game has improved a lot. I remember him being unable to run in u16s. I just think Kai was really overrated as a prospect by certain groups. Its the modern game, Kai game isnt really built for it.

          Also Im comparing the reaction to Tab losing twice in the WUBS to the reaction to the Jones Cup losses of RoS. Both tourneys really dont matter I agree but reactions are so different and my belief is that certain types just want to hyperfocus on the PBA instead of seeing the larger problems of our program.
          indeed kai's game has improved a lot. i do think however that today, kai's game has reached its ceiling.
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          • #8150
            Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post

            correct me if i'm wrong but i've never seen iskati get blamed by the fans. he's probably the most important pba player to the team after malonzo & junmar/japeth
            This reminds of the discussion in spin yesterday about the final 12. The hosts and call in panelists were almost unanimous in picking Jamie as a starting SF. I think since the centennial team with Jun Limpot we have been hoping for a tall SF. I hope Chot figures it out because Jamie is probably the best PF candidate to switch to SF. He might not be using DDO now but I think needing a guard like SF puts too much strain in your defense.

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            • #8151
              Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Post

              indeed kai's game has improved a lot. i do think however that today, kai's game has reached its ceiling.
              Bigs, especially pinoy bigs take longer to peak. Usually past 30. It's probably because most are slow, so their game doesn't reach it's peak until they get peak strength and gain a lot of experience to figure out how to play despite being slow-footed.

              Benjie is one of the exceptions but he does have Australian genes. And most people don't know, Benjie had very good handles. He was born ahead of his time.

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              • #8152
                Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post

                I think Kai's game has improved a lot. I remember him being unable to run in u16s. I just think Kai was really overrated as a prospect by certain groups. Its the modern game, Kai game isnt really built for it.

                Also Im comparing the reaction to Tab losing twice in the WUBS to the reaction to the Jones Cup losses of RoS. Both tourneys really dont matter I agree but reactions are so different and my belief is that certain types just want to hyperfocus on the PBA instead of seeing the larger problems of our program.
                It's in our dna, we enjoy criticizing our own. How many times do we hear kababayans say "onli in da pilipins" even if it's also prevalent in other countries/culture.

                On Tab, he's not perfect but any level-headed observer will admit that he has improved Philippine basketball.

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                • #8153
                  Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Post

                  indeed kai's game has improved a lot. i do think however that today, kai's game has reached its ceiling.
                  I think it’s still premature to say he’s reached his ceiling, he’s only a year older than Francis Lopez. He’s still young and got a few years of development left

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                  • #8154
                    Originally posted by Metta View Post

                    Bigs, especially pinoy bigs take longer to peak. Usually past 30. It's probably because most are slow, so their game doesn't reach it's peak until they get peak strength and gain a lot of experience to figure out how to play despite being slow-footed.

                    Benjie is one of the exceptions but he does have Australian genes. And most people don't know, Benjie had very good handles. He was born ahead of his time.
                    benjie like his son kobe are combo forwards..
                    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                    1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                    • #8155
                      Originally posted by ja.he View Post

                      Maybe because PBA is a pro league and, supposedly, the league where the country's best players are playing whereas UAAP is still, by name, a collegiate league where players are still developing their game. For me, it comes down with the name and reputation.
                      WUBS was a collegiate tournament though plus Im arguing we should hyperfocus on youth prospects since the ceiling of our pros aint where we really want it to be at least our youth should have the same ceiling as those in top countries if developed correctly.

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                      • #8156
                        Originally posted by Juan Lun View Post
                        isn't it Ateneo with Tab won WUBS championship last year? Compared to the PBA what have they done to improve PH basketball. none, still stuck in the 90s best league in asia kuno can't even hire import above 6'9 lol
                        Level of competition in the WUBS improved.

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                        • #8157
                          Originally posted by reamily View Post

                          benjie like his son kobe are combo forwards..
                          At Benjie's peak, would you choose Benjie over Carl Tamayo to play for Gilas?

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                          • #8158
                            Originally posted by Bonifacio View Post

                            At Benjie's peak, would you choose Benjie over Carl Tamayo to play for Gilas?
                            If its 90's era basketball, I'll choose Benjie Paras. If its present basketball, I'll pick Carl Tamayo.
                            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                            • #8159
                              Originally posted by Juan Lun View Post
                              isn't it Ateneo with Tab won WUBS championship last year? Compared to the PBA what have they done to improve PH basketball. none, still stuck in the 90s best league in asia kuno can't even hire import above 6'9 lol
                              Best pro league in Asia whose 2 best teams got massacred (very embarrassing loses by SMB) in last year's EASL festivities. Best league in Asia my ass!!!
                              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                              • #8160
                                If we hosted a tournament like mvp cup we couldve used lopez and caelum harris just like the hinton bros being used by Taipei
                                To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                                1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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