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  • Originally posted by deviant View Post
    Gilas practice tonight, 16 players present.
    Meaning Kai & Iskati were present & have practiced, right?
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • Originally posted by Rds View Post

      I dont understand why he was in the pool in the first place. He was actually decent. But we know he had injury problems. But why then was he forced to join the pool? The answer is so that the PBA would not need to add bigs from outside the PBA. Before Edu showed he was still good as he was when he was 18 yrs old, we had a lot of questions marks if he was healthy enough to play 20 minutes. Kai was a big question mark. Good soldier Erram had to be there or God forbid PBA had to swallow its pride and get a player in the pool outside of its ranks. AJ Edu actually saved SBP and PBA's butts. If he did not play beyond expectations, based on his injury history and limited playing time, SBP and PBA would be hearing it from fans.
      token tnt representation along with Pogoy

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      • Originally posted by CoJ View Post

        token tnt representation along with Pogoy

        This doesn't help the coaching staff at all,it should be the best in each position.

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        • Originally posted by Rds View Post
          With Scottie in, my 5.

          1. C Kai
          2. C JF
          3. PF/C AJ
          4. C/PF Jap
          5 PF/ SF Jamie
          6 SF/PF Dwight
          7 SG/PG/SF JC
          8 SF/SG BRP
          9 SG/PG Perez
          10 PG/SG Scottie
          11 PG Kief
          12 SG/PG Newsome

          With JC and Scottie in we need less PGs. But Newsome is our best guard defender. Newsome as a defender is more vaulable than Abando is a spotup shooter I think. Oftana does not seem to be effective in Chots offense.

          Ideally we dont need Kiefer. But Chots offense does need dribbling. This is why Oftana and Abando will be out. But lets see in the tuneups.
          Hopefully the next Gilas coach can focus on defensive versatility more than shot creation. Chot needs 2 or 3 ballhandlers on the floor at the same time, a bit too much sacrifice on defense for my taste, except if Dwight is the 3.

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          • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
            For me, players that will mainly play the 4 should be either fall into 3 categories - Kelly Williams-type, RDO-type or Pingris-type while players that will mainly play the 3 should be a guard with guard skills or atleast a swing (2/3). Sorry, I am really a proponent of triple guard combination.

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            I'm a defensive-minded kind of guy, since I rooted for the Bulls since the Rose/Noah/Thibodeau era, so I don't think we should sacrifice defensive versatility and solidity.

            That said, if we have many Dwight Ramos-type 6'4"-6'5" players who can defend and help in handling the ball, I'm fine with the 3-guard lineups. That's how it works without sacrificing defense, in my view.

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            • Originally posted by bluenote49 View Post
              Please Chot focus on Gilas! and always remember that no matter what you achieved in this World Cup, nothing will cover up the embarrassment of the brawl that you caused.
              Originally posted by OverratedTabBaldwin View Post
              Nice win, Tab. Oh wait..LMAO
              Don't make a beef where there isn't one. Tab was the one who recommended Chot, and I think they have a good relationship, judging from the news. They even worked together before.

              If anything, the beef should be towards SBP management for making us start from scratch. Panlilio, Vargas, and Chua.

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              • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
                I would have settled with Jong with Nenad as his offensive coordinator,have Charles Tiu craft a better defense than just packing the paint.
                Maybe Goldwin and Topex could be the defensive coordinators. Both have good defensive schemes in the halfcourt, and the players work hard on defense.

                Jong had a heart surgery. Maybe have Charles be the head coach with Nenad, Goldwin, Compton, and Topex backing him up.

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                • Gilas will have CLOSED DOOR scrimmages starting friday.

                  Aug 18 vs Ivory Coast

                  Aug 20 vs Mexico

                  Aug 21 vs Montenegro
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                  • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                    The talent that needs to be signed to this kind of contract is top-tier talent, like Juan GDL, Baltazar, Dwight. This way, the PBA will be forced to take the leftovers as top picks. Sure, it may result in weak draft classes, but anything to ensure cooperation with the national team. If your teams can't lend, we'll have to deprive you of future talent as well.

                    Those are some of the talents,they should include former PBA players that opted to play overseas,Gilas can be their option in between,if players are financially secure they will play without any worries at all and hoping against all hope that another big League will sprout up to rival the PBA,a league that have the national team in its heart and willing to adjust their schedule.

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                    • Originally posted by r1ck View Post
                      Gilas will have CLOSED DOOR scrimmages starting friday.

                      Aug 18 vs Ivory Coast

                      Aug 20 vs Mexico

                      Aug 21 vs Montenegro
                      Closed door meaning nobody would be allowed to record videos of the game? Maybe video highlights would only be allowed to be uploaded in youtube but not the entire game.
                      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                      • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                        Maybe Goldwin and Topex could be the defensive coordinators. Both have good defensive schemes in the halfcourt, and the players work hard on defense.

                        Jong had a heart surgery. Maybe have Charles be the head coach with Nenad, Goldwin, Compton, and Topex backing him up.

                        It looks like Jong is doing fine,he even opted for some interview and we all know that Gilas has to still satify the "only a Filipino Head Coach" thingy,I think he can still make a sound decision,just make Nenad make the hard decision,wit Tiu also assisting,Topex and Compton or Goldwin for the defense,just let Jong be the face of the HC staff to satisfy the so called patriotic line.

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                        • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post


                          It looks like Jong is doing fine,he even opted for some interview and we all know that Gilas has to still satify the "only a Filipino Head Coach" thingy,I think he can still make a sound decision,just make Nenad make the hard decision,wit Tiu also assisting,Topex and Compton or Goldwin for the defense,just let Jong be the face of the HC staff to satisfy the so called patriotic line.
                          That's insular-minded people disguised as "patriotic" individuals. One of which is coaching a team which is shitting & sucking big time in an international tournament in Taiwan right now.
                          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                            That's insular-minded people disguised as "patriotic" individuals. One of which is coaching a team which is shitting & sucking big time in an international tournament in Taiwan right now.

                            To be fair to the ROS team they were just requested to join on short notice since wala ngang mabubuong team for the jones cup since gilas is idesperately trying to come up with a team to play miserably in 10 days. To be fair to SBP they probably wouldn't care to join jones cup this year much kahit may cadet team tyo dahil tyo nga naman ang host ng world cup.
                            With the coaches thing, I couldn't care less who coached the team as long as results are acceptable. Ang problem with SBP and even with the stakeholders of PH basketball is self-serving interest pa rin ang habol eh. Yeah they placed Yeng to replace Chot then what, gave him a complete team to practice with less than 2 weeks to go sa 2019 world cup, eh wala talagang mapapala yun. Fast forward to Tab, Dickel and Nenad during the height of the pandemic. They produced great results to a program with barely any support from PBA then what, tanggalin si Tab over some petty shit they couldn't really explain clearly in public? Now they have a coaching staff of former national team coaches who contributed to the heartaches of filipino basketball fans for decades now, to keep stakeholders happy? Kaya pati players ngayon pabebe na sa national team eh.
                            Last edited by kukikups; 08-16-2023, 09:19 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by IPC View Post



                              Don't make a beef where there isn't one. Tab was the one who recommended Chot, and I think they have a good relationship, judging from the news. They even worked together before.

                              If anything, the beef should be towards SBP management for making us start from scratch. Panlilio, Vargas, and Chua.
                              It's eerily quiet here when Tab loses. LMAO
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                              • Originally posted by OverratedTabBaldwin View Post

                                It's eerily quiet here when Tab loses. LMAO
                                Tab is treated like royalty here and kinda deserves it but when people are quiet when Ateneo got destroyed in the WUBS what does that tell you? Personally I think a group of fans have blinders on and only hate on the PBA/Chot/SBP but they do not see the bigger more systemic issues we really need to fix in order for the country to truly compete at a global level. And again, once Tab said that Kai needed to go to Ateneo to make the NBA I automatically saw him as part of the problem and we cant move forward as a program if our leaders are endorsing nonsense for there own personal gain.

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