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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post

    Hopefully, we get a new management not named Al Panlilio, Ricky Vargas, and Alfrancis Chua. Get someone like Delta, Strong, or Chooks. Hope the new management emphasizes development of internationally-viable young talent, chemistry, and an internationally-viable system, and we get a respectable coach that can get invites to pocket tournaments for our cadets and seniors.

    I think fans should be campaigning to get Panlilio, Vargas, and Chua out of SBP, and keeping them from the SBP headship. Problema lang, fans are too naive to see that SMC and the Panlilio/Vargas group are the same shit.
    People cling to power, limelight and position. Just ask the politicians. Which is why things will never change for our NT.

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    • Originally posted by reamily View Post

      but this time its different as every year there is a fiba qualifying tournament heck even teams like Senegal arent vacant as their palying for a spot in olympic qualifying tournaments so pba adjusts on fiba calendar
      Something which I don't expect our greedy PBA people would do. But even without PBA national team prospects (Malonzo, Thompson, CJ Perez, Oftana) during the July-August-September period, we still can have the non-PBA Gilas prospects who are playing in foreign pro leagues which calendars are synchronized with the FIBA calendar. We still can have Kai, AJ Edu, Tamayo, Baltazar (hope he doesn't play in the PBA), Dwight Ramos, Abando, Parks, Jordan Heading, RJ Abarrientos. We can also add a No. of college or amateur players like Mason Amos, Francis Lopez (both already played for Gilas before), Chico Briones, Mark Belmonte, Jonel Policarpio & even the ineligibles like Mike Philipps & Kai Balungay. Then we can have Justin Brownlee as our naturalized player. I think that team/pool would be very competitive.​
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Originally posted by greenarcher View Post
        People cling to power, limelight and position. Just ask the politicians. Which is why things will never change for our NT.
        Originally posted by paolylo View Post
        I'm still convinced they'll completely ignore FIBA Asia Cup qualifying that's happening a month after the Asian Games. When I mean ignore, I'm thinking they'll send Josh Reyes and a bunch of college players because the PBA will be deep into the Commissioner's Cup while there will be a FIBA International window from November 20 - 28. Last time, we had guys like Thirdy and Kiefer play games for Gilas and spent the remaining days in the country on a short vacation. Whether or not that team will be competitive enough for Asia remains to be seen, but definitely the entire SBP will be jaded after going through both the World Cup and Asian Games.
        Originally posted by CoJ View Post
        Heck, Brownlee might not be even available on the upcoming Windows. Feels like we won't be qualifying for the FIBA World Cup for another 4 decades again
        Which is why we fans should be campaigning for change in SBP management. These guys in management will stagnate us and drag us down the longer they remain.​

        Might be easier to force executives out than politicians, might as well start a protest movement.

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        • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
          Try REAL WORLD common sense. Sorry but either you are genuinely naive or you want your “truths” handed to you sealed air tight. Playing your beyond reasonable doubt game isn’t infallible, as even the court of law isn’t without wrongful judgements.
          I am not naive, just like any other sensible people we deserve some order and discipline. Dont think fake news is beneficial for decent forum. Look what happen if we let fake news toxicity run wild in a thread. I am asking for facts that we can all look at to debate on, no courts rules. Anyways, its just my stand

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          • If for instance Iskati Thompson won't make it becoz of his injured hand (well I hope he makes it), and Kiefer Ravena doesn't make it to the final-12 man roster either, would this be the 1st time that a Philippine national team bound for a major tournament would be without a natural/legit point guard? Let's be honest, neither CJ Perez nor Newsome nor Rayray Parks are natural point guards. Coach Chot hinted that he might play Clarkson at the point guard spot at times. I don't expect that's gonna happen. Clarkson's just too valuable a scorer & offensive threat to play the point.
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • SBP is a full time job....schedule is jampacked.

              Cannot hire people with side jobs...Al, Barrios, Chot even Tim Cone.

              ​​​​​​Should be a dedicated group that are passionate like us fans and hopefully little to none corruption and favoritism involve....in an ideal world that is

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              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                If for instance Iskati Thompson won't make it becoz of his injured hand (well I hope he makes it), and Kiefer Ravena doesn't make it to the final-12 man roster either, would this be the 1st time that a Philippine national team bound for a major tournament would be without a natural/legit point guard? Let's be honest, neither CJ Perez nor Newsome nor Rayray Parks are natural point guards. Coach Chot hinted that he might play Clarkson at the point guard spot at times. I don't expect that's gonna happen. Clarkson's just too valuable a scorer & offensive threat to play the point.
                I think even with Scottie around, Clarkson would be the best candidate for PG duties for Gilas come the WC proper. Granted that it has been almost a decade since but there were some games of JC in the past in an LAL uniform shouldering most of PG duties whenever he was on the floor, and it's not just some NBA-level ball handling he exhibited but that of a legit NBA point guard. I can't remember his on-court decisions though if it was good enough (probably not back then as the Lakers were a sub-20 game winner when he was with them), as it's mostly his offensive prowess that was on display. Too bad though, we don't have someone else in the same level of JC, offense-wise, so tasking him to do it all on offense may have adverse effects for Gilas all tournament long.

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                • In Iran's tune-up games vs. Russia where Iran lost both games (59-72 & 57-71), the top scorer of Iran in both games is Mohammad Amini, who scored 17 & 20 pts., respectively. The 6-foot-7 Amini was the standout of Iran's U-16 & U-18 teams from last year.

                  I think he's not part of the Iran team-B team that played in the recent pocket tournament in China where Gilas also played.
                  "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                  • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post

                    I think even with Scottie around, Clarkson would be the best candidate for PG duties for Gilas come the WC proper. Granted that it has been almost a decade since but there were some games of JC in the past in an LAL uniform shouldering most of PG duties whenever he was on the floor, and it's not just some NBA-level ball handling he exhibited but that of a legit NBA point guard. I can't remember his on-court decisions though if it was good enough (probably not back then as the Lakers were a sub-20 game winner when he was with them), as it's mostly his offensive prowess that was on display. Too bad though, we don't have someone else in the same level of JC, offense-wise, so tasking him to do it all on offense may have adverse effects for Gilas all tournament long.
                    JC will play make some but I think not full time. Actually, I have some doubts if Scottie can drive against the WC foes. This means he will probably be in PNR most of the time. I think JC will best be slotted at SG as a combo guard with Dwight at SF, Edu at PF and either Kai or Japeth at C. Scottie has been idle for a long time that although I hope he can start but until we see him in the next tuneups I don't think he is a shooin to start. The problem is all our PG's have big question marks. CJ - defense and decision making. Newsome - scoring and shooting. Kiefer - slow and short. Bollick shouldve been in the pool as along with CJ he did well in the last WC. But oh well PBA politics.

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                    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                      In Iran's tune-up games vs. Russia where Iran lost both games (59-72 & 57-71), the top scorer of Iran in both games is Mohammad Amini, who scored 17 & 20 pts., respectively. The 6-foot-7 Amini was the standout of Iran's U-16 & U-18 teams from last year.

                      I think he's not part of the Iran team-B team that played in the recent pocket tournament in China where Gilas also played.
                      Losing to a good European team in a slim margin is impressive for Iran… they still have gas left in their tank… next tune up game for Iran is against Georgia…

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                      • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                        Losing to a good European team in a slim margin is impressive for Iran… they still have gas left in their tank… next tune up game for Iran is against Georgia…
                        This might be Russia's developmental team with a few national team veterans that Iran played against.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                          JC will play make some but I think not full time. Actually, I have some doubts if Scottie can drive against the WC foes. This means he will probably be in PNR most of the time. I think JC will best be slotted at SG as a combo guard with Dwight at SF, Edu at PF and either Kai or Japeth at C. Scottie has been idle for a long time that although I hope he can start but until we see him in the next tuneups I don't think he is a shooin to start. The problem is all our PG's have big question marks. CJ - defense and decision making. Newsome - scoring and shooting. Kiefer - slow and short. Bollick shouldve been in the pool as along with CJ he did well in the last WC. But oh well PBA politics.
                          Kaya i was hoping Gabe Norwood could be our full time PG at least for the WC, he could've played 20mins purely as a PG and this time he no longer has to defend the best player, with Perez and Newsome could take 10 each.
                          For the SG-SF JC,Parks,Dwight & Malonzo could share duties
                          Then Malonzo,AJ,Jap,JF & Kai alternating the 4-5 spots depending on the match ups

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                          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                            This might be Russia's developmental team with a few national team veterans that Iran played against.
                            Maybe not… since they are suspended by FIBA, they use some tune up games for being able to be ready once they can play again in fiba tournaments…

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                            • I see an abundance of talent in Philippine baskstball at the four position in the 23-year old & under age category. U got players like Tamayo, Kevin Quiambao, Mason Amos, Kai Balungay & Mike Philipps in there. The only hicup is that Balungay & Philipps are both ineligible for now. Hope these 2 guys gets FIBA exception in a few years.
                              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                                I see an abundance of talent in Philippine baskstball at the four position in the 23-year old & under age category. U got players like Tamayo, Kevin Quiambao, Mason Amos, Kai Balungay & Mike Philipps in there. The only hicup is that Balungay & Philipps are both ineligible for now. Hope these 2 guys gets FIBA exception in a few years.

                                A natural 3 with good size is the key to having a balance strong Gilas,most of the time they rely on 4s to play combo forward,that's all but a couple of permanent 6'6 or above SF,is badly needed.

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