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  • New interview with Tab:

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    • The pba is actually the best source for mature three-and-D essential role guys, who are seriously missing in the nt.

      For the edification of the sbp, a 3-and-D player is one who reliably jacks a ton of 3 point shots, and very capable of guarding at least 3 positions on the other end. A k middleton, more or less.

      Hindi mo madedekwat mga ganyan sa uaap at ncaa lang.

      I actually thought paras was this guy who can neutralize 123s, while exploding 3-5 3bombs a game. Sayang, walang personal vision ang bata ng "where do i best fit?"

      Iyong ibang malaking mga bata pa, gaya ni oftana, cortez, basti at demisana ay sana maging 3-and-d. Parang mga higanteng distrito na walang topak. Di mo pwedeng gibain ang aussies kung wala kang mga ganito.

      Oo nga pala. Tanong mo magkano sweldo ni middleton para alam mo bakit kahit sa nba, kulang mga 3-and-D.
      Last edited by ccharmed; 07-07-2021, 03:47 AM.

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      • Originally posted by ccharmed View Post
        The pba is actually the best source for mature three-and-D essential role guys, who are seriously missing in the nt.

        For the edification of the sbp, a 3-and-D player is one who reliably jacks a ton of 3 point shots, and very capable of guarding at least 3 positions on the other end. A k middleton, more or less.

        Hindi mo madedekwat mga ganyan sa uaap at ncaa lang.

        I actually thought paras was this guy who can neutralize 123s, while exploding 3-5 3bombs a game. Sayang, walang personal vision ang bata ng "where do i best fit?"

        Iyong ibang malaking mga bata pa, gaya ni oftana, cortez, basti at demisana ay sana maging 3-and-d. Parang mga higanteng distrito na walang topak. Di mo pwedeng gibain ang aussies kung wala kang mga ganito.

        Oo nga pala. Tanong mo magkano sweldo ni middleton para alam mo bakit kahit sa nba, kulang mga 3-and-D.
        Actually, Middleton's paid to become the 2nd option as well as the defense. Middleton is also 3-and-D, yes, but guys like PJ Tucker and Danny Green, Patrick Beverley, Jae Crowder are more common in that role). But you're right, they're paid 8-digits in NBA salary (I think around $12-15M) due to the importance of their role.

        This needs to become a point of emphasis for our national team. We can't win on defense alone (although we almost did in 2015). Question is, who in the PBA is a 3-and-D guy? I can name only Pogoy and Marcio Lassiter (although both can be shot creators as well), and also Rome dela Rosa.

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        • Ganuon nga. Even in the pba, they do not develop 3-and-d guys. Bagay, dump the ball to fajardo sa ilalim, may 2 trophies per year na.

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          • Originally posted by alex15 View Post
            Guys quick question, what if Heading or Navarro joined the B. League, is there any repurcussions? Tecnically they dont have any contracts sa PBA only but they signed with Gilas. Perfect examples is Tungcab, supposed to play in the D2 b league but failed to comply with the paper works.
            Originally posted by zairex View Post
            The question is will they be available for Gilas. Remember Thirdy wasn't able to play for Gilas even though his last game was mid April in B League
            We'll see about their availability in the FIBA Asia Cup and World Cup. What ultimately matters is availability for the main tournament and the preparations therefor.

            Thirdy's case was unavailability for windows. Let's see about his availability for the FIBA Asia Cup tournament proper first.

            PBA players were available for the 2019 WC qualifying windows, pero anyare sa main tournament?

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            • Originally posted by IPC View Post
              We'll see about their availability in the FIBA Asia Cup and World Cup. What ultimately matters is availability for the main tournament and the preparations therefor.

              Thirdy's case was unavailability for windows. Let's see about his availability for the FIBA Asia Cup tournament proper first.

              PBA players were available for the 2019 WC qualifying windows, pero anyare sa main tournament?
              I think, not sure, pero, they PBA prioritized finishing the elimination round therefore giving yeng no time to really prepare

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              • Originally posted by shamuibilog View Post
                I think, not sure, pero, they PBA prioritized finishing the elimination round therefore giving yeng no time to really prepare
                The PBA did exactly that. They finished the Commissioner's Cup Finals before giving leeway for the WC.

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                • Here's this Serbian's assessment of the national team: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/spor...spondent/story

                  His best players were Kai, Kouame, and Heading.

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                  • So we get this cryptic tweet from Quiambao, liked by Tiebreaker Times:

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                    • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                      So we get this cryptic tweet from Quiambao, liked by Tiebreaker Times:

                      Means he got another invite? But he reason it out like Ubo of Marcio Lassiter?

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                      • Originally posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post
                        Means he got another invite? But he reason it out like Ubo of Marcio Lassiter?
                        I hope the former is true, but the latter isn't. God, ang hirap kapag Lasalista. We only got Baltazar because Pineda gave his blessing.

                        Well, we have another Pineda Lasalista in Jonnel Policarpio. Maybe that kid can be developed.

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                        • Out of the country vacation, guy must be vaccinated to have vacation
                          To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                          1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                            I'm confident that as Kai & Kouame gets better & better, the team will be less dependent on the guards & wings, and would get the bigs more involve in offense.

                            Moving forward, as our guards & wings get more accustomed to playing with Kai, I expect more lop passes, entry passes at low post & alley-oop plays for Kai
                            Like I said, I hope Tab devises plays for them and emphasizes feeding them, since the bigs (both 4 and 5) will be our biggest asset at the Asian level.

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                            • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                              Actually there is a misconception that most countries have more preparation time than Gilas even with PBA players, this is actually not accurate.
                              So what happened to Gilas last WC? Is it the fact that we didn't send our best team?

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                              • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                                So what happened to Gilas last WC? Is it the fact that we didn't send our best team?
                                The preparation of Gilas in 2019 WC wasn't actually to dissimilar to a lot of teams in the 2019 WC, ( USA , New Zealand etc), it's just that relative to talent and familiarity confidence level at the world level, those teams can afford not to prepare as much. Gilas cannot. or else will get blown out.

                                so yes in the context of the players the Philippines has at it's disposal , it cannot afford to prepare like others and have a short preparation to do well.

                                The other take away is , where do these players from these other national teams come from , that they can afford to have less preparation?

                                You got it, they play in international foreign leagues using FIBA rules, and with the same type of level or players they are exposed to regularly throughout the season . the Webster brothers for example , were not playing new unfamiliar competition in the world cup (2019) , these guys they faced in other national teams were the same guys they are either teamates or play regularly against in their leagues.. see the difference
                                Last edited by DAdmiral; 07-09-2021, 02:18 AM.

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