Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[Hoax]

Big reason why the SBP head should not be too PBA-affiliated like Panlilio, Vargas, and Boss Chua. They'll insist on PBA players, despite the lack of quality and/or upside apart from Japeth, Scottie, Newsome, Perez, Malonzo, Oftana, and Marcio, many of whom are old. Maybe Mamuyac and Ambohot for "upside" (but Ambohot is already 27, in his prime).

That is my worry, it looks like SMC will take over the federation after the 2023 world cup. We all know how Chua is playing the narrative that overseas leagues are poaching players from the PBA. They may use the national team as leverage for players to join the local league which may in turn affect who suits up but knowing players now, the dream is to play overseas.

[IPC]

I would argue that team Bleague will only be effective under a more eurostyle coach. They would fare worse than PBA Gilas with Coach Chot, as it does not have many key pieces that will fit his system (PGs especially)

Yeah, Chot's system is too reliant on shot creators from the guard position (especially the 1). Wright, Kiefer, Juan, RJ, Dwight, and Parks are the only proven shot creators in the overseas leagues.

To fully utilize the overseas guys, a coach with a less shot-creating guard centric offense could do. Charles Tiu has a shot-creating guard in Oczon, but his offense creates opportunities for guys in other positions such as Corteza and Gozum. There's Tab, and also Goldwin Monteverde, who don't rely that much on shot-creating guards to the extent that the Reyes father and son duo do.

[thatweirdguy]

Yeah, Chot's system is too reliant on shot creators from the guard position (especially the 1). Wright, Kiefer, Juan, RJ, Dwight, and Parks are the only proven shot creators in the overseas leagues.

To fully utilize the overseas guys, a coach with a less shot-creating guard centric offense could do. Charles Tiu has a shot-creating guard in Oczon, but his offense creates opportunities for guys in other positions such as Corteza and Gozum. There's Tab, and also Goldwin Monteverde, who don't rely that much on shot-creating guards to the extent that the Reyes father and son duo do.

Bolick?

But those guys would make Chot's wet dreams come true. They're not only skilled offensively but their taller than their PBA counterparts and dare I say better?

[live_evil]

Panopio should be the lead guard in the Worlds but we all know Choke's and Joke fantasies when it comes to guards.

[Rds]

Yeah, Chot's system is too reliant on shot creators from the guard position (especially the 1). Wright, Kiefer, Juan, RJ, Dwight, and Parks are the only proven shot creators in the overseas leagues.

To fully utilize the overseas guys, a coach with a less shot-creating guard centric offense could do. Charles Tiu has a shot-creating guard in Oczon, but his offense creates opportunities for guys in other positions such as Corteza and Gozum. There's Tab, and also Goldwin Monteverde, who don't rely that much on shot-creating guards to the extent that the Reyes father and son duo do.

Chots system only worked when he either Alapag, prime Castro or Blatche. Getting an international level slasher/playmaker is no joke. Mikey Williams is the close he got but is ineligible. He is hoping that JC can do it for us but we dont know if he is up to it. Worse is without a center NP our rim protection and rebounding is worse. He is hoping that Dwight can be JCs number 2 like against Lebanon. But with the teams defensive deficiencies I dont think we have enough offense to offset it. Malonzo is our PF, thats not gonna cut it against bigger teams. But lets see. The problem is Brownlee and Kouame will be in the tuneups. Those two will frontcourt help that we wont have with JC there.

[paliganibossalfrancis]

Chots system only worked when he either Alapag, prime Castro or Blatche. Getting an international level slasher/playmaker is no joke. Mikey Williams is the close he got but is ineligible. He is hoping that JC can do it for us but we dont know if he is up to it. Worse is without a center NP our rim protection and rebounding is worse. He is hoping that Dwight can be JCs number 2 like against Lebanon. But with the teams defensive deficiencies I dont think we have enough offense to offset it. Malonzo is our PF, thats not gonna cut it against bigger teams. But lets see. The problem is Brownlee and Kouame will be in the tuneups. Those two will frontcourt help that we wont have with JC there.

if we qualify for Olympics and assuming Mikey is healthy, Chot can run his "your turn his turn" system. RHJ and Mikey won a Chip with that offense. We can upgrade the 1 position w/ Barefield as well to facilitate that. lol.

Paris 2024 bara bara line up:
Backcourt/Wings - Sedrick Barefield, Remy Martin, Mikey Williams, JC, Brownlee, Dwight
Frontcourt - Kai, AJ, Jamie, Philips, BGR, Tamayo

[magic_chiongson]

if we qualify for Olympics and assuming Mikey is healthy, Chot can run his "your turn his turn" system. RHJ and Mikey won a Chip with that offense. We can upgrade the 1 position w/ Barefield as well to facilitate that. lol.

Paris 2024 bara bara line up:
Backcourt/Wings - Sedrick Barefield, Remy Martin, Mikey Williams, JC, Brownlee, Dwight
Frontcourt - Kai, AJ, Jamie, Philips, BGR, Tamayo

doesn't the olympics follow fiba's eligibility rules? i know the OQT does so i assume the olympics does as well

[Hoax]

if we qualify for Olympics and assuming Mikey is healthy, Chot can run his "your turn his turn" system. RHJ and Mikey won a Chip with that offense. We can upgrade the 1 position w/ Barefield as well to facilitate that. lol.

Paris 2024 bara bara line up:
Backcourt/Wings - Sedrick Barefield, Remy Martin, Mikey Williams, JC, Brownlee, Dwight
Frontcourt - Kai, AJ, Jamie, Philips, BGR, Tamayo

Most of those players are not eligible as locals. Barefield, Martin, Mikey W., Mike Philipps, BGR, Brownlee, and JC all cannot be considered as locals.

[Hoax]

doesn't the olympics follow fiba's eligibility rules? i know the OQT does so i assume the olympics does as well

The olympics is sanctioned by FIBA thus following FIBA eligibility rules.

[JAMSKIE]

It seems Francis Lopez' ballhandling has improved a bit, and his shooting as well.

Mark Belmonte can move like a 6-foot-2/6-foot-3 shooting guard. I think he's quicker than 6-foot-5/6-foot-6 Gilas prospect wingmen like Dwight Ramos, Will Navarro, and has better handles than Jamie Malonzo & Calvin Oftana.

So our promising good size wings in collegiate basketball are Chico Briones, Mark Belmonte & Jonel Policarpio.

[JAMSKIE]

Speaking of dweet he maybe slow ( the reason he dodnt pan out i us) but he is strong( russian genes) thats why he able to make it as our 3 and yes undersize at that

While Dwight Ramos looks slow, he's skilled & smart, sort of a Luka Doncic. I say if Dwight has the quickness of a CJ Perez, I think Dwight would have averaged at least 10 pts in the NCAA div. 1 in the US & would be a significantly better Gilas prpspect.

[magic_chiongson]

dwight might be slower than our other guards/wings but he is very strong and has an explosive first step, makes him very good at finishing around the time. also has good timing on defense

as for francis lopez, as much as i hate to say this being a up fan, he might be ready for the b-league after a season or 2

[paliganibossalfrancis]

Most of those players are not eligible as locals. Barefield, Martin, Mikey W., Mike Philipps, BGR, Brownlee, and JC all cannot be considered as locals.

my bad. in Asian Games this is possible sans JC.

but in the case of Nigeria why did they allow the likes of Jahlil Okafor who has already played for Team USA youth team to play in the Olympic roster. Can someone confirm if all of those American-Nigerians had Nigerian passport before 16?

[Giannis34GOD]

my bad. in Asian Games this is possible sans JC.

but in the case of Nigeria why did they allow the likes of Jahlil Okafor who has already played for Team USA youth team to play in the Olympic roster. Can someone confirm if all of those American-Nigerians had Nigerian passport before 16?

Naturalized player status... others are all local players... Guys like Vincent (who using FIBA name Nnamdi), Achiuwa, Metu, etc... was classified as locals and played also last 2019 FIBA WC....

[IPC]

Bolick?

But those guys would make Chot's wet dreams come true. They're not only skilled offensively but their taller than their PBA counterparts and dare I say better?

The PBA still has Newsome, Perez, Marcio, Scottie, and an out-of-prime Castro and Terrence, though. But yeah, right now, Dwight and Parks are better than Newsome, Perez, and Marcio at their position, and taller as well.

I'm still on the fence with Bolick, Juan, and RJ vs. Scottie, Castro and Terrence, though. The overseas guys are taller, but I dunno with better. Still better options than guys like Lee, Jalalon, Nambatac.