Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[BJ_Reloaded]

All the while, those grandpas from the SBP are fully aware pala of one of the provision of the FIBA eligibility rules on marginal cases that includes the so-called residency and basketball heritage. As for the latest brouhahaha about the Brownlee-Clarkson proposal well that’s their call and investment, let’s just watch and enjoy the end result of the comedy show.

Like the rest of us watching a few games of that tune-up tournament like Fil-Oil, I think if only SBP had the visionary for the sports, those young FSA can also be re-consider as candidates for that so-called marginal cases instead of focusing on JB’s exemption. The likes of UP’s 7’0 Malik Diouf, NU’s 6’10 Omar John(with Demolition Man as the team’s bigman coach), CEU’s 6’11 Henry Agunanne(now with DLSU) and ADMU’s 6’10 Joseph Obasa I think are good investment moving forward for naturalization at a young age. Despite being a little bit raw but honing them properly will surely be an asset in the future. The thing here is those players are already been involved and still being involve in different domestic pre-tournaments here and there prior to their actual collegiate tournaments. I think AK34 had already establish a strong merits by playing in domestic leagues in the past like PBA D League, Filoil, Flying V pre tournaments among others.

They’ve already done this with AK34, sayang former DLSU’s 6’7 Ben Mbala that time are also willing to be naturalize but our basketball stakeholders doesn’t care too much on that FIBA eligibility provision on Marginal Cases at that time and only now they are bringing up this residency rule on a particular guy who doesn’t had any basketball heritage on his resume but our grandpas had the audacity that he may somehow pass that criteria because since 2016 he already playing at the domestic league. Oh well!!

[CoJ]

All the while, those grandpas from the SBP are fully aware pala of one of the provision of the FIBA eligibility rules on marginal cases that includes the so-called residency and basketball heritage. As for the latest brouhahaha about the Brownlee-Clarkson proposal well that’s their call and investment, let’s just watch and enjoy the end result of the comedy show.

Like the rest of us watching a few games of that tune-up tournament like Fil-Oil, I think if only SBP had the visionary for the sports, those young FSA can also be re-consider as candidates for that so-called marginal cases instead of focusing on JB’s exemption. The likes of UP’s 7’0 Malik Diouf, NU’s 6’10 Omar John(with Demolition Man as the team’s bigman coach), CEU’s 6’11 Henry Agunanne(now with DLSU) and ADMU’s 6’10 Joseph Obasa I think are good investment moving forward for naturalization at a young age. Despite being a little bit raw but honing them properly will surely be an asset in the future. The thing here is those players are already been involved and still being involve in different domestic pre-tournaments here and there prior to their actual collegiate tournaments. I think AK34 had already establish a strong merits by playing in domestic leagues in the past like PBA D League, Filoil, Flying V pre tournaments among others.

They’ve already done this with AK34, sayang former DLSU’s 6’7 Ben Mbala that time are also willing to be naturalize but our basketball stakeholders doesn’t care too much on that FIBA eligibility provision on Marginal Cases at that time and only now they are bringing up this residency rule on a particular guy who doesn’t had any basketball heritage on his resume but our grandpas had the audacity that he may somehow pass that criteria because since 2016 he already playing at the domestic league. Oh well!!

Mbala and Chabi Yo could have been a great wing combo for Gilas if SBP explored this provision. Heck, Bright as a center for the windows/SEA games level could also suffice

lol at somehow pass the criteria, Brownlee is here for what, 6 months max in a year..hehehe

[DAdmiral]

And here is the thing it's not like it was cheap to bankroll Clarkson, Blatche , Brownlee, including exception processing and pay , I kid you not their pay for 1 month service, can be more than the budget for batang Gilas for a decade .
tell me that is not irresponsible? And if one argues it's not their priority, really? If youth development and recruitment is not the federation business, then who's is it ?
to me this is gross negligence.

I can just see FIBA central shaking their heads and laughing at SBPs stupidity. , their very mandate to develop the sport they neglect and use the money for mercenaries. And the funny thing is local youth who deserve and need the funding don't even know they are being cheated. If this happened in more developed countries all those officials will be investigated for incompetence mis use of resources.

People need to change their paradigm that revenue earned by enterprises to have resources at their disposal is part of the eco system that should be responsibly used for thr wellbeing of all. Not self interest, especially if one is assigned for governance such as head of a federation. This concept of public responsibility is lost in the Philippines.

[BJ_Reloaded]

Sir Dave instead of putting all the investment on JB-Clarkson’s exemption why not put all their excess moolah to those young FSA, I think they exemplify good behavior and I haven’t heard nor read any rumors about adventurism, wet and wild things in and outside the school with those African kids.

For those schools and alumni I think it’s also high time for them to be involve in the lobbying if they think those kids could be an asset to our basketball program moving forward considering all those member UAAP, NCAA and other collegiate leagues are an active signatories to the SBP hierarchy..tama po ba?

[DAdmiral]

@ BJ Not only is it the ethical moral thing to do to invest in youth including FSA who moved to the country in their youth for a better future, but it's a a waste of money to spend on exception cases for Clarkson and Brownlee who fundamentally do not meet the criteria of having residency in the country as a youth , signifying the intent of the U16 rule to promote youth development within.
Spending for exceptions of F (STudent) athletes who developed their game as none adults is consistent with FIBA's U16 rule intent.

[DAdmiral]

I really have no problem with the UAAP having a arms race, recruit pa more foreigners pinoy or none Pinoy. This is the eco system working in our favor to improve the level of competition at youth development level in the county. It is a very good example of resources gained via commercialism channeled to the right area for "basketball development.

Do people not see this ? I tell you , people in Australia envy the collegiate scene in the Philippines giving opportunities for High school graduates to continue their basketball careers.

[DAdmiral]

For those for protection of local opportunities, just look at history what protectionism has done to the quality to be world competitive.
besides there are enough roster spots exclusive for locals to promote mere participation. Join the NCAA.or something or MPBL PBA who will protect local rights to participation.
but if being more competitive globaly is the goal , you need better foreign competitors.

[zairex]

For those for protection of local opportunities, just look at history what protectionism has done to the quality to be world competitive.
besides there are enough roster spots exclusive for locals to promote mere participation. Join the NCAA.or something or MPBL PBA who will protect local rights to participation.
but if being more competitive globaly is the goal , you need better foreign competitors.

Which leagues doesn't have player restriction aside from NBA. Whats there reason for restriction? They are not bad leagues or have not develop players.

[DAdmiral]

Which leagues doesn't have player restriction aside from NBA. Whats there reason for restriction? They are not bad leagues or have not develop players.

One word context, the extent of restrictions , self explanatory
any local industry has regulations it's the balance that matters where it is not overly regulated at the expense of improving to be world competitive.

[gilasfan]

For those for protection of local opportunities, just look at history what protectionism has done to the quality to be world competitive.
besides there are enough roster spots exclusive for locals to promote mere participation. Join the NCAA.or something or MPBL PBA who will protect local rights to participation.
but if being more competitive globaly is the goal , you need better foreign competitors.

What are the incentives for players to play in UAAP aside from scholarship?

Do they have salaries? If yes how much?,
Do they have allowances? If yes how much?

Can can teams recruit good players fil ams from the US like Dwight, Koon, Philips etc? I guess scholarship is the least priority for incentives

[BJ_Reloaded]

Here’s my own personal interpretation of that so-called Protectionism that is very OFF to me..really.

First thing first those Catholic schools especially those from NCAA should re-consider their previous banning on FSA. Instead of bannering the narrative about deprivation of Filipinos chances of occupying a roster spot the main reason why they’ve agreed to implement such thing, they should preach the essence of a religion that there is no color nor ethnicity, no rich nor poor in the eyes of the beholder especially in the worship house where his spirit dwells. And if those Catholic priest(s) preaches what’s on their usual homily that schools on its entirety are almost considered as a worship house wherein it’s not only teaches the knowledge of the earth but also the knowledge of the scripture. And sports, even though it’s not literally in the writings in the holy scripture but the wisdom and the essence of encouraging all the children of the beholder to be involve in physical activities to make once body(considered as a spiritual temple) to be mentally, spiritually and physically strong and healthy and develop fair play are all in the holy scripture. I think if only those modern day Padre Damaso and Padre Salvi practices what’s on their usual homily then that restriction on FSA should not be implemented after all.

[DAdmiral]

What are the incentives for players to play in UAAP aside from scholarship?

Do they have salaries? If yes how much?,
Do they have allowances? If yes how much?

Can can teams recruit good players fil ams from the US like Dwight, Koon, Philips etc? I guess scholarship is the least priority for incentives

Let's be honest for the top recruits , ( not all) it's essentially a semi pro league, and recruits are pros.. just to be blunt about it, Mbala, Taane didn't move for education put for pay.

[JAMSKIE]

It really brightens my mood seing 6-foot-5/6-foot-6 small forwards & combo forwards like Quiambao, Francis Lopez, Chico Briones & Jonel Policarpio in collegiate basketball.

Hope these guys develop well & be serviceable to the national team in the very near future.

[DAdmiral]

Michael Phillips and Brandon Ganuelas-Rosser expressed their willingness to see action / practice with world cup team, my gosh... and we won't even try to get Phillips exempted but will try Brownlee , this is insane..

Read more at: https://sports.tribune.net.ph/2023/0...ape-up/

[JAMSKIE]

Michael Phillips and Brandon Ganuelas-Rosser expressed their willingness to see action / practice with world cup team, my gosh... and we won't even try to get Phillips exempted but will try Brownlee , this is insane..

Read more at: https://sports.tribune.net.ph/2023/0...ape-up/

What do U think is the reason why SBP seems not that interested to apply for exemption for Mike Philipps before FIBA? Is it becoz Philipps is just a role player & not a go-to-guy type like a Standhardinger or Brownlee?