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  • Even if the player isn't officially submitted to FIBA pool, but if the player like Rosser can replicate FIBA bigs in practice , that's good enough than a slow unathletic big

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    • watching pba pickup games and wow how the Joshua Munzon had fallen, just 3 years ago we are craving for his fiba eligibility.. now we wish him playing for malaysia, vietnam or indonesia and destroy any progress they made there with his bricks
      To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
      1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

        Bro, I suggest U backread DAdmiral's previous posts for U to understand much better what he's trying to imply.
        He will not get any exemption for now (If we based Analyze comments), even he says there's a little chance... No benefit putting him on the pool, I'm OK with being a practice player (If needed)... But putting him on the pool is a waste of spot... Especially that possibility of some members in the pool might get injured in training camps... Let him rest and focus on healing... He might call up for future tournaments in qualifying games... Kouame has been washed recently because he was forcing to play even the doctor's advise him to take rehabilitation... What's wrong with that?

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        • Originally posted by reamily View Post
          watching pba pickup games and wow how the Joshua Munzon had fallen, just 3 years ago we are craving for his fiba eligibility.. now we wish him playing for malaysia, vietnam or indonesia and destroy any progress they made there with his bricks
          Lol Pinoys are ruthless. But seriously though what happened with him? I thought he's going to become a big time player

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          • It's not actually certain that Koaume will not get exempted in next 3 months ( I'm not saying he's likely to get exempted) but he certainly has a better chance than some of the players the SBP filled for exception previously and failed . Additionally if injured he doesn't need to practice. Now let's be honest here , if you used 1 pool spot of 20 players , thst leaves you 19 players available to choose from , more than enough options, and it's not like you can't add 1 player (like Simmons for Ozy late) in a super extreme worst case scenario....

            Besides people are missing the point of emphasis here, it's not so much if Kouame should be included in the pool which is arguable at least , but the SBP lack of foresight to strategically plan for the future. (This is obviously evident), it doesn't have to be Koaume, look Phillips is unlikely to be in the official pool as well ( now tell me this isn't lack of foresight on the SBP!!!. Hope people comprehend now.

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            • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
              It's not actually certain that Koaume will not get exempted in next 3 months ( I'm not saying he's likely to get exempted) but he certainly has a better chance than some of the players the SBP filled for exception previously and failed . Additionally if injured he doesn't need to practice. Now let's be honest here , if you used 1 pool spot of 20 players , thst leaves you 19 players available to choose from , more than enough options, and it's not like you can't add 1 player (like Simmons for Ozy late) in a super extreme worst case scenario....

              Besides people are missing the point of emphasis here, it's not so much if Kouame should be included in the pool which is arguable at least , but the SBP lack of foresight to strategically plan for the future. (This is obviously evident), it doesn't have to be Koaume, look Phillips is unlikely to be in the official pool as well ( now tell me this isn't lack of foresight on the SBP!!!. Hope people comprehend now.
              There are more opportunities to do that, Especially FIBA has new format... They can do that in future tournaments... FIBA Asia cup qualifiers will start in February 2024... For now, use the pool for players who are eligible, available and last and foremost, healthy 100%....

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              • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                There are more opportunities to do that, Especially FIBA has new format... They can do that in future tournaments... FIBA Asia cup qualifiers will start in February 2024... For now, use the pool for players who are eligible, available and last and foremost, healthy 100%....
                Again you cannot honestly say this is really the reason for the plan of action. Let's be open minded honest, you cannot say including old Junmar coming of injury is a better pool member selection than Philipps ( who really has a stoing case for being exempted NOW) and can contribute to WC . Be honest.

                So it begs the obvious question, why then is Junmar more probable selection than Phillips for the pool? Isn't it obvious decision is based on political self interest of key stakeholders who've invested (need to keep them happy) . Now is thst a good basketball decision and practice?
                DO YOU COMPEHEND NOW!!

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                • Do not forget also the World cup is a golden opportunity to have the Sec general who decides on exceptions to have his audience and be on good side , as we are the host. Additionally for futuee Asian tournaments we have opposition from our rivals to question players merit to eligibility

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                  • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                    Do not forget also the World cup is a golden opportunity to have the Sec general who decides on exceptions to have his audience and be on good side , as we are the host. Additionally for futuee Asian tournaments we have opposition from our rivals to question players merit to eligibility
                    Sir Dave I simply get it..

                    As for seeking an audience with the Sec Gen, I think this is an opportunity as a host to do that old classic way of “While You’re here” thing. Here’s a scenario(actual event not fiction) It’s like when there’s an occasion, attending a family reunion for a relative or a close friend and everybody in that room recognized you as an IT guy and coincidentally the host’s desktop or laptop encountered some technical problem then in the middle of the merry-making he/she approaches you, “Hey buddy, while you’re here, can you check my unit it seems it’s not working properly”.

                    There’s an old proverb, “Sa Hapag Kainan mas maraming Napagkakasunduan”.

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                    • And let's be honest , exception decisions are not an exact science ( there is no formula like 5 yrs residency +under 25 yrs old = you're approved exempted ) , it's quite subjective decision making with use of guidelines, so every bit of persuasion for a positive decision is always smart .

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                      • What in the world sir Dave, you starting to sound like Robert here, we know you want Kouame to get local excemption..
                        To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                        1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                        • Originally posted by reamily View Post
                          What in the world sir Dave, you starting to sound like Robert here, we know you want Kouame to get local excemption..
                          that's a good outcome , but it's beyond that, it's for the SBP to have foresight and think strategically. and not make decisions driven by stakeholder interest. It is a real problem, if you honestly look at the country as a whole. BTW it doesn't have to be Kouame that gets exempted , but how the SBP acts does matter

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                          • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

                            that's a good outcome , but it's beyond that, it's for the SBP to have foresight and think strategically. and not make decisions driven by stakeholder interest. It is a real problem, if you honestly look at the country as a whole. BTW it doesn't have to be Kouame that gets exempted , but how the SBP acts does matter
                            Correct about that, its up for SBP to stick it up on their principles and able to walk the talk especially on recruiting overseas based players.
                            To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                            1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                            • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                              And let's be honest , exception decisions are not an exact science ( there is no formula like 5 yrs residency +under 25 yrs old = you're approved exempted ) , it's quite subjective decision making with use of guidelines, so every bit of persuasion for a positive decision is always smart .
                              Well said bro. It is indeed not a sweet science, but rather subjective. I say there are lots of factors.
                              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

                                Again you cannot honestly say this is really the reason for the plan of action. Let's be open minded honest, you cannot say including old Junmar coming of injury is a better pool member selection than Philipps ( who really has a stoing case for being exempted NOW) and can contribute to WC . Be honest.

                                So it begs the obvious question, why then is Junmar more probable selection than Phillips for the pool? Isn't it obvious decision is based on political self interest of key stakeholders who've invested (need to keep them happy) . Now is thst a good basketball decision and practice?
                                DO YOU COMPEHEND NOW!!
                                Honestly? I think Junmar would make it to the 12-man roster mainly because he is a PBA 6th time MVP.
                                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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