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  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

    Iskati, Perez, Heading, Parks, Clarkson, Ramos, Malonzo, Tamayo, Philipps, Japeth, Kai & Edu.
    Not bad roster..
    is Perez fill role need more than Tuffin, Spencer
    Oftana and Thirdy ? Kind of a want a defensive oriented guard, not sure What Perez provides, when u have Clarkson, Parks and Heading

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    • weak lineup..this doesnt mean this team is stronger but talent level gap isnt far

      New, RJ, SJ, Rhenz, Dave, Balti, BGR, Oftana, Kquiam, Brownlee, Fajardo, Angge.. we already have a 24 man pool. Not saying this list is better ut I can see2 -3 or 4 guys that mght excel and be a better piece than some of the names above..

      Sorry ravena bros hahah
      Last edited by reamily; 05-23-2023, 10:23 AM.
      To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
      1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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      • I just saw a brain-dead post on the team composition for the WC: https://www.facebook.com/groups/3892...3797986208502/

        He said that the lineup for the WC should be composed exclusively of PBA players + Kai and JC. Leave the overseas players, because they're "overrated."

        My response is, the only really useful PBA players for FIBA at this point are Scottie, Japeth, Marcio, Newsome, and Malonzo. Perez is too inconsistent, and Oftana hasn't gotten enough reps. I mean, come on.

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        • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

          Not bad roster..
          is Perez fill role need more than Tuffin, Spencer
          Oftana and Thirdy ? Kind of a want a defensive oriented guard, not sure What Perez provides, when u have Clarkson, Parks and Heading
          I'll pick Perez over Thirdy. Remember, Perez & Robert Bolick were the only bright spots in the Gilas team in the 2019 World Cup. I think Perez is a decent defender & he's always a scoring theat. Tuffin is untested in the FIBA game while Spencer is just too inexperience.

          Also, Perez has been a regular fixture of Gilas for the last few years - something Tuffin, Spencer & Oftana aren't, hence Perez has the edge in terms of familiarity & chemistry.
          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
            I just saw a brain-dead post on the team composition for the WC: https://www.facebook.com/groups/3892...3797986208502/

            He said that the lineup for the WC should be composed exclusively of PBA players + Kai and JC. Leave the overseas players, because they're "overrated."

            My response is, the only really useful PBA players for FIBA at this point are Scottie, Japeth, Marcio, Newsome, and Malonzo. Perez is too inconsistent, and Oftana hasn't gotten enough reps. I mean, come on.
            Oh that poor kid must be a blind die hard fan of the PBA, hence the obvious bias.
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • In an ideal world (without a greedy PBA/SBP self serving agenda) this would be my ideal WC pool.

              GUARDS
              Scottie Thompson
              Robert Bolick
              CJ Perez
              Rhenz Abando
              Jordan Heading
              Ray Parks Jr.
              Jordan Clarkson


              FORWARDS
              Dwight Ramos
              Jamie Malonzo
              Kenneth Tuffin
              Carl Tamayo
              Mason Amos
              Justin Baltazar

              CENTER/FORWARDS
              Angelo Kouame
              Japeth Aguilar
              Michael Phillips
              Kai Sotto
              AJ Edu​

              HEAD COACH: Tab Baldwin
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              • Perez first step is a weapon in world level he just need good screens..and he is a capable defender too (assigned to defend pridgett in the finals that made him foul out but was able to limit his output)

                Tuffin in gilas is a long shot unless he will come early in the camp we dont have sample size on him the last 3 years and he isnt a big like a aj edu that we can be patient into...

                Wildcards.. Mason Amos and... Caelum Harris..Hopefully Ateneo and UP will be exposed in intl competitions abroad so that PAdrigao, Lebron , Mason Kai, gagate and co. can develop themselves...
                To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

                  the idea isn't to necessarily play him but to submit his name in the18 man pool roster for FIBA clearance and exception
                  He will not get exemption for now... Let him rest and focus on his healing procedure, waste of spot for the pool, Rather put guys who are healthy...

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                  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                    We are 1 of the hosts of the 2023 FIBA World Cup so that's a good leverage right there. I just hope bro that our good people from SBP realizes this idea of yours.

                    Oh! Am I too optimistic about SBP?
                    He's doing fantasy line up aka "NBA 2K playstation mode"....

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                    • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                      He's doing fantasy line up aka "NBA 2K playstation mode"....
                      Well then isn't that a bad reflection then on the lack of foresight of the SBP when pang 2k fantasy insight actually has better strategic value than the actual federation driven by political monetary obligation (utang na loob)
                      Last edited by DAdmiral; 05-23-2023, 11:15 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                        2nd follow up question, if Koaume and Philipps get approved exempted, who's your final 12 ?
                        Bigs

                        Kai Sotto
                        AJ Edu
                        Ange Kouame
                        Mike Philips

                        Wings/Forwards

                        Jamie Malonzo
                        Roosevelt Adams
                        Dwight Ramos
                        Ray Parks

                        Guards

                        Jordan Clarkson
                        Jordan Heading
                        Scottie Thompson
                        Aaron Black
                        Attack
                        defend
                        Unite

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                        • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                          He will not get exemption for now... Let him rest and focus on his healing procedure, waste of spot for the pool, Rather put guys who are healthy...
                          Bro, I suggest U backread DAdmiral's previous posts for U to understand much better what he's trying to imply.
                          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                          • Kai Sotto wouldnt be with the team up until summer league is over right? Theres a chance that Adams might make the lineup after all getting that coveted 12th man role (althoughwe hope to give it on a magic bunot guy than him who will just accept his fate)
                            To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                            1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                            • Pool members in training don't have to be submitted to FiBA , and there enough submitted spots (24 ) to simply use for processing clearance , that is more than enough spots to have multiple options for the final 12. Plain and simple it's lack of strategic foresight

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                              • Wait!!! somebody forgot the name of BGR despite being a long shot for now(magbaka sakali muna) I think putting his name on the pool is a must considering that we were also training for the Asian Games and surely he will be eligible as per OCA.

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