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  • I'm leaning towards this amendment to proposal

    * limit heritage to parent generation , with passport as a minor .

    This is much more easy to verify prove, and address genuine OFW. Families.
    I really don't consider 3rd generation immigrants as genuine anymore, ang layo na yun
    Last edited by DAdmiral; 05-13-2023, 11:42 PM.

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    • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
      Can you stop with this false dilemma that bashing on the SBP means we want them gone and want BAP back?

      We are in this situation because the SBP failed to act since last year. This is the same board who almost didn’t send a team for the 2018 AG. That was pre-pandemic.

      The point here is the SBP under Panlilio is very incompetent and should be replaced.
      Originally posted by IPC View Post
      Agreed, SBP bigwigs should be replaced. And if we're gonna replace them, hope not SMC, because they're the same as Panlilio. I'd rather go Chooks. They probably have self-interest too, but they've contributed to the overseas training of Kai, so good enough for me.
      Originally posted by CoJ View Post
      personally i want pineda and the mighty group to take over SBP, even intl federations will not mess with the Corleones and the rest of the five families.

      Somehow wary of mascarinas and how he gifted kobe to UP (though in retrospect, paras only returned to the Phil when his nba dreams are already dead)
      As long as they're not SMC or the Panlilio/Vargas group, I'm good.​​ Either Delta, Chooks, or Mighty can develop youth, and are open to choices other than the traditional ones (best players and coaches apart from the ones in the PBA, mga ganun).

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      • What if a Filipino invested in a Philippine franchise in either the NBL or B league, and littierally used it as his defacto Gilas training team, (similar to NZ Breakers).

        And basically told the SBP to hell with you, I run my business independently and just fielded his team in FIBA competition, fully prepared with the best Pinoys, (tapos)

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        • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
          What if a Filipino invested in a Philippine franchise in either the NBL or B league, and littierally used it as his defacto Gilas training team, (similar to NZ Breakers).

          And basically told the SBP to hell with you, I run my business independently and just fielded his team in FIBA competition, fully prepared with the best Pinoys, (tapos)
          Honestly, "to hell with you" is the best thing we can all say to SBP after their screw-ups.

          Pero, that can be a nice possibility. Independent from the PBA, and maybe some more room for development away from the local ecosystem here.

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          • Latest Interview of Panlilio, this was before the WC Draw.



            - Mentions SMC partnership
            - Says the pool is much better and the best players in the Philippines that are worthy of representing the WC
            - Mentions that the WC is the collection of the best players in the world
            - Does not now the final schedule regarding the preparation for the WC at that time
            - Mentions the importance of winning gold in the SEA games
            - Planned trips in the US and Europe
            - Friendlies with oversees teams
            - June-July and leading to the WC would be the prep for the WC 2023
            - Likes Gilas to advance in the second round
            - Likes Gilas to go to the Olympics
            - Gilas does not need the bubble
            - Likes Gilas to build comradery and brotherhood
            - Hopefully wins when they go to battle
            - Mentions give and take where the PBA sacrificed for the WC so understandable shorter SEA games prep
            - Mentions that SMART has been funding Gilas and SMC only helping in the WC itself

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            • F*ck this guy.

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              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                What if a Filipino invested in a Philippine franchise in either the NBL or B league, and littierally used it as his defacto Gilas training team, (similar to NZ Breakers).

                And basically told the SBP to hell with you, I run my business independently and just fielded his team in FIBA competition, fully prepared with the best Pinoys, (tapos)
                instead of a team, will it be better if a whole league forms to flip SBP the finger?
                WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

                P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
                SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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                • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post

                  instead of a team, will it be better if a whole league forms to flip SBP the finger?
                  sounds like a PBA 2.0 or MBA .. for me the Philippine base league is to limited, you need a wider market and wider group of players and more imports .. to level up both commercially, local play and import levels

                  NZ would not be able to level up , if it limited itself to just having player and team representation domestically in the NZ NBL .

                  A little OT, but i heard Philippines is trying to join the singing contest Euro vision that Australia joined , but basically same principle need to join better levels to get better

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                  • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

                    sounds like a PBA 2.0 or MBA .. for me the Philippine base league is to limited, you need a wider market and wider group of players and more imports .. to level up both commercially, local play and import levels

                    NZ would not be able to level up , if it limited itself to just having player and team representation domestically in the NZ NBL .

                    A little OT, but i heard Philippines is trying to join the singing contest Euro vision that Australia joined , but basically same principle need to join better levels to get better
                    exactly, thats what PBA did to BAP. so doing it now would be more or less the same. SBP has to evolve outside of ANY Philippine league and be an independent NSA. im not saying not tapping PH players\leagues but outside its influences. If, just for discussion, PBA doesnt want to help without some control given to them, e di wag. CTB proved that it can be done with non-PNA players being competitive. for SEAG it may not be a popular opinion, but non-Fiba eligible and even some non-PBA players with promising youth players should keep us competitive. that will even unlock potential help from other leagues.
                    pero lets say PBA wants to help but wants some spot light, then give them SEAG or Asian games and just focus on those. all out for those games and not touch a finger on any other.
                    WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

                    P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
                    SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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                    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                      That's the key words right there bro. Gilas 2 had around 4 & 1/2 months of preparation/training bridging from 2012 & 2013. While Gilas-1 had the better & longer preparation (say around 2 & 1/2 years from 2009 to 2011), in terms of composition, Gilas-2 is better as it was composed of the best & the more matured players of the country.

                      I want to put it this way, this current cadet team (even with Kai Sotto & AJ Edu in tow) is inferior compared to a PBA-select RP team simply becoz kulang pa yung mga cadets sa experience & maturity. But in 2 or 3 years time, the table would be reversed.
                      I wonder who would win, Tab's Gilas who fought Korea and won (Kouame, Kai, Dwight, Abarientos, Heading et al) or this version of Chot's Gilas (Brownlee, Standhardinger, Ross, Lassiter et al). My bet is that it will be Tab's Collegiate Gilas team.

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                      • Originally posted by Bonifacio View Post

                        I wonder who would win, Tab's Gilas who fought Korea and won (Kouame, Kai, Dwight, Abarientos, Heading et al) or this version of Chot's Gilas (Brownlee, Standhardinger, Ross, Lassiter et al). My bet is that it will be Tab's Collegiate Gilas team.
                        this will end up like powerade ph vs gilas, with Tab getting a upperhand. Or it could get ugly like Burger King vs Gilas, you know how petty PBA players are and they will protect the status quo

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                        • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post

                          instead of a team, will it be better if a whole league forms to flip SBP the finger?
                          chooks to go 3x3 says hi ,sila nagluto pba at sbp kumain
                          trans: chooks got all those fiba points only for the pba and the sbp to hijack the program

                          but for 5x5, that might lead to a fiba ban hammer

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                          • Originally posted by CoJ View Post

                            this will end up like powerade ph vs gilas, with Tab getting a upperhand. Or it could get ugly like Burger King vs Gilas, you know how petty PBA players are and they will protect the status quo
                            Prime Kouame was pretty good. He can stop anybody and he can even switch in the perimeter. Al Dwairi was a bit too much for him but it wasnt lopsided as people remembered. He still scored and defended. Honestly, the Kouame Kai C rotation was pretty good. Kai was better coming off the bench playing his "5 minutes".

                            Or course if it was the Gilas against Korea team, I might pick that. That team almost defeated China in a scrimmage IRC. That might have defeated Serbia and possibly a closer score against DR. IRC Kai and Dwight were absent against DR and Dwight was absent against Serbia.

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                            • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
                              Whatever the outcome tomorrow, Chot should not be vindicated.

                              We played like a Asia Cup Pre-Qualifier team. Our offence revolves around JB32 and we have no options other than take pot shots from outside.

                              #ChotOut
                              I already have this stance after the WC.

                              Originally posted by IPC View Post
                              Even if we win, I still want this SBP board gone after the WC, no Panilio, Vargas, and SMC presence. Even Chot, though I have far less ill will towards him than the executives (more neutral, really), for the reason that he's not a coach you go with in a rebuild.
                              Hope Mighty, Chooks, or Delta take over. At least they could be a little bit more open-minded about sending youth and non-PBA players (I dunno with Delta, though). Chooks may have directed Kobe Paras to UP, but they also helped out with Kai's overseas training. Kung may self-interest, at least better than SMC and MVP.

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                              • Our basketball program can learn a thing or two from Coach Spoelstra.

                                He has that ability of maximizing every bit of talent out of his players. His teams always play together and hardnose defense. Great at identifying lowly valued players who turn out to be effective at something. Always has a solid game-plan and able to make in-game adjustments that win games.

                                He's slowly turning into a Popovich.

                                Wishing he imparts some of that knowledge to the Gilas program.

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