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  • Originally posted by GoPilipinas View Post
    Honestly No system and Program has been build Since Chots took over HUGOT System parin naman so its not really too late if we change coach... but all in for embarassment na SBP for chot
    We had our chance to set a direction with Tab heading the Gilas program, but SBP doesn't like it for some reason, so here we are.

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    • Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post
      I don’t know the behind the scenes but I think Chot is just a scapegoat
      Yeah, he's just a scapegoat for SBP's poor handling of the program since they removed Tab. Yeah, we scored wins against Lebanon and Jordan, but this team doesn't have a direction.

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      • Originally posted by Rds View Post
        When was their DR loss, 2021? Dont you think if his program continued that the team and players would not have developed? Note that Dwight was not there. If he continued, Kouame wouldnt have probably been injured as he had been healthy under Tab. Imagine Kouame with an improved Balti maybe some of the KBL guys like Gutang and Alvano. They would have been a better team by now. Tab always aims to win. Its unlikely that hr will give all the effort on development without aiming to win at least 1 game in the WC.
        And we'd have a set defensive identity by now. We could rotate well under Tab and defend without fouling. Not that physical yet, but his teams play with effort.

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        • Originally posted by pacifier View Post
          In another 100 years, maybe philippine basketball can be respected again. As of this generation considering the talent and political landscape of our basketball have, I am very sad I cant foresee anything positive to look forward to. My deal with myself is I wont be watching live on any philippine games this world cup. I would just rather read or watch the replay if they will have any games at a respectable result.
          Originally posted by barok espinoza View Post
          So, the decline of the golden age of Philippine basketball is as swift as its rise? Woe to the vanquished.
          As long as these executives, or similar ones, are in charge, we're not gonna be that respectable in basketball anytime soon.

          They're the GarPax/James Dolan of Philippine basketball.

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          • Gilas Army want Chooks, MVP (the man himself, not his underlings i.e. Panlilio and Vargas), and (wait for it.....) Delta Pineda to take over the NT program: https://twitter.com/gilasarmy/status...H0aGTHrfA&s=19

            Furthermore, they want the Smart Gilas program revived in order to lessen the reliance on the PBA: https://twitter.com/gilasarmy/status...tw8MhiDWQ&s=19

            I'd rather have an NT camp in longer window breaks and before World Cups. If many of the best Gilas players aren't in the PBA, we can invite them there and have a long training session to get chemistry.

            Honestly, I feel Chooks are a good option at this point, at least better than SMC and Panlilio, Vargas and Co. They helped out with Kai, and are sending 3x3 teams to FIBA events. Delta, well...

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            • Originally posted by live_evil View Post
              Goldwin with Baldwin as coach and assistant would be a win-win scenario for Philippine Basketball. =)
              go with the Bald, win the Gold. better than Choke, Joke
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              • If only Mike Philipps is FIBA-eligible right now, he's really the taller version of Mark Pingris. This means a better version of Pingris. At 21 yrs old, we already have a glimpse of his potential as a role player. Philipps exhibits tenacity, motor & work ethic that Pingris also demonstrated during his stint with Gilas.

                Well, I hope Philipps gets an exception from FIBA in 2 to 3 years time.
                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                  If only Mike Philipps is FIBA-eligible right now, he's really the taller version of Mark Pingris. This means a better version of Pingris. At 21 yrs old, we already have a glimpse of his potential as a role player. Philipps exhibits tenacity, motor & work ethic that Pingris also demonstrated during his stint with Gilas.

                  Well, I hope Philipps gets an exception from FIBA in 2 to 3 years time.
                  I like. MIKE'S mentality and attitude, he really plays hard , and if you notice even despite the altercations he's actually a peace maker and in control..exemplary behavior.. body language says alot , you can see he really has no issues with his limited role and just does his job. Great teamate to have for Gilas. We don't have a Pingris like player

                  even if none of my business, I going to ensure ill do what I can to lobby with both the SBP and FIBA to pursue exemption for Mike, no harm trying , even if I look like a fool minding other people's business

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                  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                    If only Mike Philipps is FIBA-eligible right now, he's really the taller version of Mark Pingris. This means a better version of Pingris. At 21 yrs old, we already have a glimpse of his potential as a role player. Philipps exhibits tenacity, motor & work ethic that Pingris also demonstrated during his stint with Gilas.

                    Well, I hope Philipps gets an exception from FIBA in 2 to 3 years time.
                    He just needs to know how to shoot.

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                    • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

                      I like. MIKE'S mentality and attitude, he really plays hard , and if you notice even despite the altercations he's actually a peace maker and in control..exemplary behavior.. body language says alot , you can see he really has no issues with his limited role and just does his job. Great teamate to have for Gilas. We don't have a Pingris like player
                      Mike is indeed a taller version of Pingris, and becoz he's taller than Pingris by about 3 inches, Mike is expected to be better than Pingris.

                      Mike's athleticism, motor, & physical strength & toughness is similar to Pingris. And just like Pingris, Mike's skills are also limited.

                      In case Mike gets an exemption in 2 to 3 yrs time, I see a solid rotation of Kai, Edu, Malonzo, Tamayo, Baltazar & Mike Philipps at the 5 & 4 spots.
                      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                      • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                        He just needs to know how to shoot.
                        I think developing a respectable shooting from medium range is doable since he is still young.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Originally posted by Rastas View Post
                          Hard Sad Fact for all Gilas supporters is that the rest of the World are getting more serious about Basketball. Africa now has teams as good as mid tier Europe , and now we seeing decent levels from other SE Asian teams.
                          JC and Kai added to Gilas is great but honestly others are matching and passing that.
                          Then when you factoring in Average Height (Very Basketball Related) , guess which Country is shortest.
                          The future not looking so great for Gilas on International Level , at least you always have all those PBA superstars to cheer for.
                          Honestly, I don't have much to look forward to apart from the exodus to Japan and SoKor. Maybe UP, but even they have their issues. The NT program's outlook is not looking good, even from the youth team standpoint, especially with the looming SMC takeover.

                          It's gonna take a major management shakeup for the outlook in Philippine basketball to get brighter again.

                          It's honestly more enjoyable to watch the women's football team. At least they have a clear identity and direction, and many players are playing abroad. Development, management, and coaching is good too. Sucks that they got booted out of the SEA Games on goal difference.

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                          • Pingris and Espino should mentor Phillips defense and rebounding. Mon Fernandez for skills.
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                            • Originally posted by live_evil View Post
                              Against Singapore, Gilas is playing well. Typical of Chot teams, play well against inferior teams but lose their balls against superior opposition. Tab's teams play hard regardless of opponent superiority.
                              And Tab's teams defend better. More systematic rotation, and more effort on defense. And his small ball is a better version of Pinoy small ball, with 6'4" guards like Dwight the only guards manning the 3. Otherwise, he has a big wing like Navarro and even a big versatile 4 like Tamayo and Baltazar. Just add physicality and some shot creation, and we have a perfect Pinoy-style team.

                              Fucking SBP morons. Removing Tab really was stupid. At least we had some semblance of direction. Tab and Chot already have a good relationship.

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                              • My proposed changes to FIBA eligibility

                                Naturalized player : Remain as 1 per tournament with passport, must establish 3 years residency and start residency at 25 yrs old. Rationale: You want NP to contribute at his prime to level of domestic competition (no hugot NBA mercenaries)

                                11 local none NP roster spots per team.
                                U16 rule remains , but with an exception for those with family heritage to the country. Definition criteria for heritage: A great grand parent or earlier parent generation of player must have lived in selected country for 10 years as a minor (before 18) and player must secure passport before 21st Birthday .

                                *Note Clarkson will pass with propose change

                                * maybe limit # of exceptions to 5 per team​
                                * maybe limit heritage to parent generation , with passport as a minor in lieu of residency as a minor
                                Last edited by DAdmiral; 05-13-2023, 10:26 PM.

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