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  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post


    I say, our available talents right now at the 3, 4 & 5 spots are upgrades to what we had before. I'm talking about the likes of Dwight Ramos, Malonzo, Oftana, Navarro, Tamayo, Baltazar, Mason Amos, AJ Edu & Kai.

    I think kung materyales lang ang pag-uusapan, our current pool of talents could at least match up (or even be better) with the golden generation Iran national team led by Haddadi, Bahrami & Kamrani during the late 2000's & early 2010's.
    We honestly just need a better coach than Choke or Joke.

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    • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

      We honestly just need a better coach than Choke or Joke.
      Yeah. We have the materials. We just don't have the right coach.

      Let coach Chot Reyes prove me wrong especially in the coming 2023 World Cup. I would love to be proven wrong.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • I would say we have better material than year's past, but if the goal is world level competitiveness, i do believe we have systemic issues in churning out material. The Philippine basketball eco system does not foster sound development , especially not at the rate others are doing

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        • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
          We honestly just need a better coach than Choke or Joke.
          Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
          Yeah. We have the materials. We just don't have the right coach.

          Let coach Chot Reyes prove me wrong especially in the coming 2023 World Cup. I would love to be proven wrong.
          I just hope that after 2023, we have a clear direction, and a new coach. Not one of the Reyes guys, not one of the Superfriends. Hope it's Charles Tiu, Topex Robinson, or Goldwin Monteverde, with a foreigner like Nenad Vučinić or TNT's Lale Gorunovic (their bald consultant) as the assistant and youth development coordinator. Cone and Jong can stay on as assistants.

          Basta, someone that can coach a physical defensive team that defends without fouling, and practice defensive rotations that are on point, and also preaches finding the open man while allowing shot creators to flourish.​ Hope we find someone that inculcates this identity in the youth teams as well.

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          • Goldwin with Baldwin as coach and assistant would be a win-win scenario for Philippine Basketball. =)
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            • Originally posted by live_evil View Post
              Goldwin with Baldwin as coach and assistant would be a win-win scenario for Philippine Basketball. =)
              Goldwin and Tab might have to leave UP and Ateneo, though, in order to better focus on Gilas and the program (development, team identity).

              Problema lang would be the resistance of bigwigs like Panlilio, Vargas, and Chua.
              Last edited by IPC; 05-11-2023, 04:20 AM.

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              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post


                I say, our available talents right now at the 3, 4 & 5 spots are upgrades to what we had before. I'm talking about the likes of Dwight Ramos, Malonzo, Oftana, Navarro, Tamayo, Baltazar, Mason Amos, AJ Edu & Kai.

                I think kung materyales lang ang pag-uusapan, our current pool of talents could at least match up (or even be better) with the golden generation Iran national team led by Haddadi, Bahrami & Kamrani during the late 2000's & early 2010's.
                Note with our lack in defensive bigs Baltazar has still not been included in the WC pool. The guy has reiterated his desire to rep Gilas in his recent interview. I still can't understand why Tab can get him in Gilas and Chot can't. Or is it part of the reason why he is not there?

                Or is the recent PBA rejection of Delta Pineda as Converge team governor part of it? Are MVP and SMC threatened by him?

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                • I do hope after this world cup there would be a much needed shake up in terms of SBP personnel. I think Alfrancis Chua will assume the post as the program director and elevate Tim Cone as the head coach while giving the reins of the youth team to Jong Uichico. And I think this shake up would affect how the PBA is ran as well, Im pretty sure with all the major stakeholders in Philippiine basketball interests aligning there could be changes made to the PBA that would benefit the national team program.
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                  • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                    Note with our lack in defensive bigs Baltazar has still not been included in the WC pool. The guy has reiterated his desire to rep Gilas in his recent interview. I still can't understand why Tab can get him in Gilas and Chot can't. Or is it part of the reason why he is not there?

                    Or is the recent PBA rejection of Delta Pineda as Converge team governor part of it? Are MVP and SMC threatened by him?
                    They are indeed threatened by the possible presence of Delta Pineda in the board. They know he will be disruptive to the status quo and competitive people like him are the outspoken type. Delta has the money and influence to not be intimated by the big company teams, and he has this known grip over players that are based in pampanga. And if the rumors are true that the vote was around 6 (SMB, Ginebra, Magnolia, Terrafirma, Northport and Phoenix) to 5 then the SMB block is the one most likely blocking Pineda's appointment
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                    • Originally posted by r1ck View Post
                      I do hope after this world cup there would be a much needed shake up in terms of SBP personnel. I think Alfrancis Chua will assume the post as the program director and elevate Tim Cone as the head coach while giving the reins of the youth team to Jong Uichico. And I think this shake up would affect how the PBA is ran as well, Im pretty sure with all the major stakeholders in Philippiine basketball interests aligning there could be changes made to the PBA that would benefit the national team program.
                      Not many of us are confident that Boss will enact changes that are beneficial to the NT program, though, especially development. That's why we're apprehensive of an SMC takeover, e.

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                      • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                        Not many of us are confident that Boss will enact changes that are beneficial to the NT program, though, especially development. That's why we're apprehensive of an SMC takeover, e.
                        Agree
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Originally posted by r1ck View Post

                          They are indeed threatened by the possible presence of Delta Pineda in the board. They know he will be disruptive to the status quo and competitive people like him are the outspoken type. Delta has the money and influence to not be intimated by the big company teams, and he has this known grip over players that are based in pampanga. And if the rumors are true that the vote was around 6 (SMB, Ginebra, Magnolia, Terrafirma, Northport and Phoenix) to 5 then the SMB block is the one most likely blocking Pineda's appointment
                          Phoenix is supposed to be an independent team. What would they get with voting with SMC?

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                          • do you want games where your import suddenly forgot to shoot? or somehow sit an import because of disciplianry reasons?
                            To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                            1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                              Yeah. We have the materials. We just don't have the right coach.

                              Let coach Chot Reyes prove me wrong especially in the coming 2023 World Cup. I would love to be proven wrong.
                              Brod, As per Chot, the real goal is the Olympics...the World Cup is a learning experience only.

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                              • Originally posted by Bonifacio View Post

                                Brod, As per Chot, the real goal is the Olympics...the World Cup is a learning experience only.
                                sounds like he has already prepared excuses

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