Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[paliganibossalfrancis]

Ritualo is barely 6 foot though which kinda limited his effectiveness and can't really do anything else effectively except shoot.

Caidic and Ritualo will have a difficult time being a sharp-shooter they once were in today's game. Interesting how they will shoot over Malonzo, or Converge's tall and athletic guards.

Key for Mason is to lose weight, learn how to move without the ball, develop decent ballhandling skills and most importantly, unlearn his bigman tendencies. Tab will turn him into a taller Dave Ildefonso with better touch.

[JAMSKIE]

IMHO, mason is not athletic but a mobile player. His mobility combined with good skill set is the best blue print for 6-6 and up homegrown players.

Well, Mason Amos' athleticism isn't in the same level as the athleticism of Danny Seigle & Kelly Wiiliams, but I think Mason is more athletic than Carl Tamayo.

And I feel Mason's athleticism will improve as he is only 18 years old. I think Kai Sotto is more athletic now than what he was when he was 18 yrs old. As a player matures, lalakas ang mga bones & muscles nya.

[thatweirdguy]

Caidic and Ritualo will have a difficult time being a sharp-shooter they once were in today's game. Interesting how they will shoot over Malonzo, or Converge's tall and athletic guards.

Key for Mason is to lose weight, learn how to move without the ball, develop decent ballhandling skills and most importantly, unlearn his bigman tendencies. Tab will turn him into a taller Dave Ildefonso with better touch.

Losing weight will definitely help. I like the fact that he doesn't rely purely on athleticism. Is he really that good of a shooter though?

[r1ck]

Losing weight will definitely help. I like the fact that he doesn't rely purely on athleticism. Is he really that good of a shooter though?

According to the Fiba website Amos averaged 21.2pts with an efficient 68.1% FG shooting (45% 3pt) on 14 shot attempts. His 3 point shooting goes up to 52% in corner threes which shows he is a very capable shooter.

[thatweirdguy]

According to the Fiba website Amos averaged 21.2pts with an efficient 68.1% FG shooting (45% 3pt) on 14 shot attempts. His 3 point shooting goes up to 52% in corner threes which shows he is a very capable shooter.

I never bothered to check the stats but holy moly somebody get this kid in the lineup now. When was the last we had somebody shooting in the 40s against international teams?

[JAMSKIE]

According to the Fiba website Amos averaged 21.2pts with an efficient 68.1% FG shooting (45% 3pt) on 14 shot attempts. His 3 point shooting goes up to 52% in corner threes which shows he is a very capable shooter.

In comparison, Kai Sotto averaged 12.7 ppg, while AJ Edu registered 14.2 ppg in the 2018 FIBA Asia U-18 championship. I know statistics isn't a "be all end all" thing but I think statistics is of a significant value in evaluating a player's potential.

https://www.fiba.basketball/asia/u18/2018/team/Philippines#tab=overview,average_statistics

[JAMSKIE]

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BTW, Mason Amos' 21 ppg & 5.8 rebs./game stats in last year's FIBA Asia U-18 Championship was registered while playing only 26 mins/game:https://www.fiba.basketball/asia/u18...am/Philippines

Its not like he put those Nos. while playing 35 mins./game. I say Mason is a natural scorer.

[reamily]

Numbers didnt transalate to world cup qualification despitre not having Australia and new zealand in the field..sayang yes he was one of a rare finished product guys at 18...skilled athletic milan macvan (or for casuals jokic like game) that any Philippine youth teams can dream of..

[reamily]

Losing weight will definitely help. I like the fact that he doesn't rely purely on athleticism. Is he really that good of a shooter though?

that was his natural talent...

[reamily]

In comparison, Kai Sotto averaged 12.7 ppg, while AJ Edu registered 14.2 ppg in the 2018 FIBA Asia U-18 championship. I know statistics isn't a "be all end all" thing but I think statistics is of a significant value in evaluating a player's potential.

https://www.fiba.basketball/asia/u18...age_statistics

Kais batch were close to agolden one while masons batch wow, ibners cant hide the ddissapointment of that run and mason mvp run was put into waste..

[Silent Killer]

Numbers didnt transalate to world cup qualification despitre not having Australia and new zealand in the field..sayang yes he was one of a rare finished product guys at 18...skilled athletic milan macvan (or for casuals jokic like game) that any Philippine youth teams can dream of..

I remember milan macvan lol..

[JAMSKIE]

Numbers didnt transalate to world cup qualification despitre not having Australia and new zealand in the field..sayang yes he was one of a rare finished product guys at 18...skilled athletic milan macvan (or for casuals jokic like game) that any Philippine youth teams can dream of..

Kais batch were close to agolden one while masons batch wow, ibners cant hide the ddissapointment of that run and mason mvp run was put into waste..

That Batang Gilas U-18 by Mason Amos just wasn't coached up to par by Joke Reyes.

No matter how good a player is, if he lacks ample support from other teammates & if the team has an incompetent coach, that player can only do so much.

[DAdmiral]

I don't know if people follow the Amos's , but youngee CJ in last state championship was a remarkable shooter . Both Mason and CJ were on my NBTC team in 2020, before Covid canceled tournament.
If people are wondering where does the shooting come from, we'll dad was a good shooter in the NZ NBL.. I've had discussions with dad on his shooting principles, and it's solid , he knows his stuff. From , step vs Hopz , to twist, to one motion vs two, to trajectory (arch must reach top of backboard on 3s).
Of course it comes with repetition. I feel shooting is the one skill thst can' be taught (generally)

[paliganibossalfrancis]

Losing weight will definitely help. I like the fact that he doesn't rely purely on athleticism. Is he really that good of a shooter though?

we'll see in UAAP 86. Not all Batang Gilas players are stellar players once they step foot in the collegiate ranks. UAAP is a different animal. But Amos by the looks of it, is a low-maintenance type player who can give you buckets. Imagine Ryan Buenafe but better, taller, more fundamentally skilled.

[IPC]

Here's an assessment by a Korean blogger, baekpd: https://twitter.com/baekpd1983/statu...2cuAy5-oA&s=19

"Characteristics of basketball players in East Asian countries.

1. Height - China
2. Basketball Basic Skills - Japan
3. 3-point shot - South Korea
4. Import Players - China
5. Defense Skills - South Korea
6. Attack Capability - Philippines
7. Possibility of Development - Japan"

He's echoing what many people think of Japan's possibility of development, and rightly considers his guys the better shooters. Otherwise, this is just his take.