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  • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
    Haha. Being 6'4 would really make him standout standing next to other players. He looked slightly taller than the other guards
    If Schonny cracks the window lineup and displays stellar play, it would be a tough decision come WC time if it's CJ Perez or him. But at this point I'd pick CJ Perez because of poise, maturity and experience, have Schonny mentored by him. Schonny still has to prove he can produce at the pro-level.

    Also if Sedrick Barefield is eligible all of the sudden and Juan GDL miraculously revives his career in Europe, they surely deserve consideration.

    Jerom Lastimosa is a no go, too thin and too small for international ball.

    But for now, it's safe to say the point guard position belongs to CJ Perez and Scottie Thompson. The rest should wait for their turn.
    Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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    • Key takeaways:
      - SBP believes we can beat Lebanon without JC
      - Justin Brownlee already training with the team since Window 5 so familiarity not a problem
      - Lebanon will field in a new naturalized player in Window 6
      - Jordan still not qualified so prepare for a long night against this team
      - Iran not qualified yet as well (last best Asian team in WC2019)
      - Window 6 will be used to see how some players will blend with the core
      - AJ Edu included in WC Pool
      - Sedrick Barefield eligibility still in question
      - Justin Brownlee shoo-in for SEA Games in May
      - Gilas will be training both in US and Europe (same regimen as 2014)
      - Pool will be trimmed down to 15 players around June
      - US training will be somewhere convenient to JC (most likely LA or Utah)
      - Gilas looking to have tune-up games with teams such as Spain and USA
      - Pocket tournament prior to WC will be held in Manila for teams that will prepare in the country early
      - We will run the same unorthodox system but this time it's hybrid ("systematic" bara-bara, Philippine style of play)
      - Chot prefers to draw African and South American teams in our World Cup group based on previous results
      - Chot optimistic we can get into second round
      - Best Asian team qualifies for 2024 Paris Olympics (Japan (Rui & Yuta) and Lebanon (Arakji) should be the main concerns of Gilas)
      - Asian Games will be late October (No JC for sure)
      - Asian Games and SEA Games eligibility rules change, so expect to see FIBA-'ineligible' players don Philippine colors
      Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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      • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post
        That's a great idea but availability will always be the question. Those players you've mentioned will set us up to be contenders within the next 4-5 year cycle (except Schonny who's not yet proven, Balti who hasn't shown anything commendable in the pros and Heading who will be too much of an undersized 2 in the near future).

        JC and Kai will be our 1-2 punch for World-level competitions, them together puts us in an entirely different dimension. Imagine how much more these 2 will improve over that 4 year span. It's also convenient that we have players like Edu, Dwight, Malonzo, Parks, CJ Perez and Iskati, these players give us assurance that we can match up with powerhouses. But for FIBA Asia Cup, SEA Games, Asian Games and Qualifying Windows, we kinda have to settle for who's available, and I believe that's where SBP tests out different players to see if they can fit into the scheme of things (example: although talent is not a question, Roosevelt Adams and Thirdy Ravena were proven not viable options for FIBA competitions)
        Agree with U about the availability issue. But if U look at the players I've mentioned, only Iskati, Malonzo & Oftana are currently playing in the PBA (whose availability would be a issue). We can replace those players from time to time with players like Bolick (most likely he'll play in Taiwan), Will Navarro & Abando.
        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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        • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
          Agree with U about the availability issue. But if U look at the players I've mentioned, only Iskati, Malonzo & Oftana are currently playing in the PBA (whose availability would be a issue). We can replace those players from time to time with players like Bolick (most likely he'll play in Taiwan), Will Navarro & Abando.
          I see Rhenz Abando and Will Navarro as Gilas mainstays in the near future. Hopefully Will recovers and bounces back from the ACL injury soon. For now let's have them develop their game in the pros. Availability wise, I think the only problem is Kai and JC. PBA, BLeague, and KBL are definitely more lax with clearance than NBL and NBA.
          Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
            Agree with U about the availability issue. But if U look at the players I've mentioned, only Iskati, Malonzo & Oftana are currently playing in the PBA (whose availability would be a issue). We can replace those players from time to time with players like Bolick (most likely he'll play in Taiwan), Will Navarro & Abando.
            I hope Bolick doesn't get blacklisted. You know how petty some people could be..

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            • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post
              I see Rhenz Abando and Will Navarro as Gilas mainstays in the near future. Hopefully Will recovers and bounces back from the ACL injury soon. For now let's have them develop their game in the pros. Availability wise, I think the only problem is Kai and JC. PBA, BLeague, and KBL are definitely more lax with clearance than NBL and NBA.
              Kinda frustrating that Will Navarro got hit by an ACL injury just when his offensive game is starting to improve.
              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                Cone - "Mason is a 6'8" Caidic, and has a legit shot of making final 12 "

                Interview with Noli Eala
                Oh wow! It speaks a lot for a player being described by a coach like Tim Cone to be a 6-foot-8 Allan Caidic. Cone must be so impressed with Mason Amos' outside shooting for him to say that. Imagine if Mason would polish his inside offense & defense, his potential would be almost unlimited. I see Mason Amos as becoming a quality stretch-4 in Asian basketball in a few years. I see him as reaching the level of an Ali Haidar of Lebanon.

                I think there's some semblance in Mason's game and that of Carl Tamayo. Though I think Mason is more athletic & is a better offensive player than Tamayo.
                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                • a 6'8" prime & healthy caidic is good enough to play in the nba

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                  • My WC squad : Clarkson, Parks, Erram, Thompson, Sotto, Malonzo, Pogoy, Perez, Ramos, Aguilar, Tamayo, Edu

                    For Asian Games (5X5) : Brownlee, Oftana, Abando, Baltazar, Quiambao, Fajardo, Almazan, S. Ildefonso, Bolick, Navarro, M.Amos, Winston

                    Asian Games (3x3) : Brickman, Monzon, Hermoso, Mikey Williams

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                    • erram and pogoy have no business outside of Asia.
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                      • Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post
                        a 6'8" prime & healthy caidic is good enough to play in the nba
                        In todays era, i dont think so. Caidic will not guard any body as he is not athletic. He will be like Ritualo, great shooter but nothing else.

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                        • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                          In todays era, i dont think so. Caidic will not guard any body as he is not athletic. He will be like Ritualo, great shooter but nothing else.
                          guys like duncan robinson & joe harris have carved out decent careers in the nba, a 6'8" caidic is easily better than those 2

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                          • I think Alba once posted Mason's FiBA youth shooting FT, FG % and 3 pt % and was something like 90/50/40 which is really unprecedented for a youth. If u look at UAAP shooting % they're actureally really bad

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                            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                              I think there's some semblance in Mason's game and that of Carl Tamayo. Though I think Mason is more athletic & is a better offensive player than Tamayo.
                              IMHO, mason is not athletic but a mobile player. His mobility combined with good skill set is the best blue print for 6-6 and up homegrown players.
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                              • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                                In todays era, i dont think so. Caidic will not guard any body as he is not athletic. He will be like Ritualo, great shooter but nothing else.
                                Ritualo is barely 6 foot though which kinda limited his effectiveness and can't really do anything else effectively except shoot.

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