Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[Rds]

We don't have many bigs with his size and length who have active hands, knows positioning, and disruptive on defense, though. Mason and Seven are not those types of bigs, unless they develop eventually into competent defensive fours. Rim protection and defensive awareness are important skills in a big.

He'd been working on his perimeter skills (passing, handles, shooting) since 15. Maybe it's not enough?

For me Demisana is like Balti on defense. Maybe better because he seems to taller/longer and more mobile. We dont need our 6'8 guys to move like natural SFs. As Balti showed with Gilas, the combination of length and good defensive principle can make a good, versatile international defender. Of course we have some 6'8 Filfors who are better defenders than Balti but they are ineligible. Currently, he is still our best switchable 6'8ish defender. As showed by Tab, such a player is important in Fiba. Demisana has the potential to be a similar player and even better. That's a big deal.

[TheRodster21]

We don't have many bigs with his size and length who have active hands, knows positioning, and disruptive on defense, though. Mason and Seven are not those types of bigs, unless they develop eventually into competent defensive fours. Rim protection and defensive awareness are important skills in a big.

He'd been working on his perimeter skills (passing, handles, shooting) since 15. Maybe it's not enough?

The only consistent perimeter skill he has offensively is shooting, he can really shoot from 3. Other than that he can’t dribble, maybe he can be like Kai a high post passer.

Also he’s not really able to slide his feet laterally, not does he have the strength to prevent guys from moving him around. Right now all he has going for him is he’s long and his IQ\reflexes.

Kind of reminds me of Ladis lepalam running up and down the court

[DAdmiral]

The pros and cons on Mason mentioned here are actually objectively and true, I've been on Mason's case in practice (when was coaching him), our staff would discuss thst he lacks motor and is being outworked by less talented kids .. BTW it's tough love . Absolutely nothing to do with hating , in fsct it's a sign we care . As we want the maximize his potential..
Oh I didn't know it was allowed to be honest and say bad things about a kid in IBN without people getting all sensitive and accusing others as haters , peace LOL

We are just happy he's in the pool and want him.to learn from all the seniors, maximize the experience.
We have zero expectations of him making the team (a bonus if it happens)

[Metta]

He'd been working on his perimeter skills (passing, handles, shooting) since 15. Maybe it's not enough?

For context, I posted a while ago a video about Josh Giddey of Australia. At age 15, he already felt his chances of becoming an elite prospect slipping away. At that age, he already had elite foundational skills and feel for the game. He was just missing next-level athleticism. Age 15 is already freshman/sophomore in high school, you should already sense urgency at that point. It's like learning a language, it gets so much harder the older you get.

But like I said, if the bar is for a pinoy big, then he's pretty much on schedule. But for the question of why don't we have 6'7+ wings, there's your answer.

[C2Hamm]

I'm not questioning his inclusion to the pool.

thank you. my answer to you is yes, he will be a fixture of the Gilas pool. wether he gets inserted in the final lineup will depend on the coach and availability.

[thatweirdguy]

The only consistent perimeter skill he has offensively is shooting, he can really shoot from 3. Other than that he can?t dribble, maybe he can be like Kai a high post passer.

Also he?s not really able to slide his feet laterally, not does he have the strength to prevent guys from moving him around. Right now all he has going for him is he?s long and his IQ\reflexes.

Kind of reminds me of Ladis lepalam running up and down the court

I think most of our new 6'7 to 6'8 prospects have these traits. They could still improve but maybe they won't ever convert into full time wings.

[BJ_Reloaded]

That is why it’s very critical that all aspiring ballers out there must first develop and improve it’s ball handling skills because whatever x’s and o’s you want to inculcate to those kids about lateral movement, moving without the ball from the baseline up to the other side of the court if his handles are not that consistent or shaky it’s a little bit challenging really.

[Rds]

That is why it’s very critical that all aspiring ballers out there must first develop and improve it’s ball handling skills because whatever x’s and o’s you want to inculcate to those kids about lateral movement, moving without the ball from the baseline up to the other side of the court if his handles are not that consistent or shaky it’s a little bit challenging really.

I think advanced handles is not necessary. I think they just need more reps help bringing the ball and more importantly attacking the perimeter. Attacking the perimeter can be practiced by playing 1x1 from the perimeter IMO. Kawhi is an example I go back to. He played PF in college. Didnt have a steady 3 nor advanced handles. But he was able to develop into one of the best SFs in the NBA. You dont need advanced skills just decent fundamentals and enough reps.

[TheRodster21]

I think advanced handles is not necessary. I think they just need more reps help bringing the ball and more importantly attacking the perimeter. Attacking the perimeter can be practiced by playing 1x1 from the perimeter IMO. Kawhi is an example I go back to. He played PF in college. Didnt have a steady 3 nor advanced handles. But he was able to develop into one of the best SFs in the NBA. You dont need advanced skills just decent fundamentals and enough reps.

Maybe he was listed as pf or played the position for his team but looking at highlights he clearly has the skillset of a wing perimeter player. Good footwork, good strength body control, he’s obviously comfortable\controlled dribbling the ball even when being pressured by defenders. The tools and base was clearly there.

Not to pick on Demisana necessarily but his dribble is too high and it’s obvious he doesn’t have control when he dribbles.

[thatweirdguy]

I think advanced handles is not necessary. I think they just need more reps help bringing the ball and more importantly attacking the perimeter. Attacking the perimeter can be practiced by playing 1x1 from the perimeter IMO. Kawhi is an example I go back to. He played PF in college. Didnt have a steady 3 nor advanced handles. But he was able to develop into one of the best SFs in the NBA. You dont need advanced skills just decent fundamentals and enough reps.

But the physical tools are there. Freakish length and athleticism and coordination. Can palm the ball easily. Our guys honestly looked awkward when moving and honestly I'd be afraid of strong winds knocking them over..

[TheRodster21]

I think most of our new 6'7 to 6'8 prospects have these traits. They could still improve but maybe they won't ever convert into full time wings.

They all feel like the Pinoy version of the unicorn bigs in the nba, unicorn because they have unique skill sets for their size and position but still are bigs.

[BJ_Reloaded]

I think advanced handles is not necessary. I think they just need more reps help bringing the ball and more importantly attacking the perimeter. Attacking the perimeter can be practiced by playing 1x1 from the perimeter IMO. Kawhi is an example I go back to. He played PF in college. Didnt have a steady 3 nor advanced handles. But he was able to develop into one of the best SFs in the NBA. You dont need advanced skills just decent fundamentals and enough reps.

Yup I agree, just enough reps on the basic stuff and those advance handles will come up naturally as more and more exposure to the game comes along.

[thatweirdguy]

They all feel like the Pinoy version of the unicorn bigs in the nba, unicorn because they have unique skill sets for their size and position but still are bigs.

They all feel like the next Almazan to be honest. Almazan too was very weak and had poor conditioning on the early part of his career and even had trouble dunking the ball. But had since developed his body and improved his 3 ball. Still he's best utilized as a stretch 5.

[IPC]

They all feel like the next Almazan to be honest. Almazan too was very weak and had poor conditioning on the early part of his career and even had trouble dunking the ball. But had since developed his body and improved his 3 ball. Still he's best utilized as a stretch 5.

If it's next Almazan, that's low-upside for FIBA play. And although Almazan works hard, and can protect the rim, but he can't even defend the paint properly overall, and his shooting is erratic.

And his IQ, man.

[Rds]

If it's next Almazan, that's low-upside for FIBA play. And although Almazan works hard, and can protect the rim, but he can't even defend the paint properly overall, and his shooting is erratic.

And his IQ, man.

Actually Erram is better Fiba wise. He is a better rim protector. Has bad habits though. Like fouling with his hips while jumping. This is too bad. Because he is a decent rim protector when he is not fouling.