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I have this feeling that a 24-year old Abando is better than a 24-year old Jeff Chan. But I believe Chan is smarter than Abando."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV -
Nah!!! I beg to disagree.Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
Gilas Jeff Chan is significantly better than Gilas Matthew Wright. Honestly, prior to his Gilas stint I expected Wright to be better than Chan. I was wrong."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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i specifically pointed out the D "Wright isnt a defensive player but if we compare to Jeff, should be the same or better." matt's D compared to Jeff is same or better. how is Chan significantly better than Wright in D? Jeff is a better catch and shoot player. Matt was not used as such plus, if you look at his non-PBA games (HS, college, French league, and current Japan league) he is better off ball player than just sitting on corners.Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
we are talking about the now. now that we see we need shooters in the team. who do we consider as possible late addition to help Parks with 3pt shooting for the team? in pure catch and shoot, closest to Chan is Tuffin but they played in different league so I cant really gauge Ken if he plays under CCR\CTC system. Matt and Jordan is same that they are better moving around without the ball than purely taking kickouts. Advantage of Heading is he actually had experience being lead guard in college. also has experience playing along side a score first player in college. that is an advantage because if they do get considered, it means playing alongside Clarkson whose main weapon is to score.
i dont know if Bolick or Tio would be an upgrade. are there more shooters in the PBA?WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES
P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAANComment
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I meant comparing the overall impact of Wright & Chan with Gilas, Chan obviously made more impact. But yeah, if we are talking about defense, they are just about equal or maybe Wright is even a bit better (Sorry I thought you were referring to overall aspects, you were just referring to defense lang pala).Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
I believe that in terms of overall skills which should include ball handling, passing, defense & even court savvy, I think Wright has the edge over a prime Jeff Chan. Unfortunately however, such facets in Wright's game has hardly translated in the FIBA game."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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There is some precedent for a case like Lucero’s. Thailand’s Moses Morgan and Freddie Lish were recently granted exemption by FIBA.Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostComment
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostOriginally posted by RedMetal View PostI think he only acquired his PH Pass when his already 20(?) or before turning 21(?) but I think there is still a small window of hope and the only thing for now is to be actively involve in the domestic leagues just to establish his basketball heritage/immersion in the eyes of the Sec Gen , the lad must also play in the PBA D League maybe 1 to 2 season, PBA 3x3, ABL playing for a Philippine team(other option) and later on for the PBA plus his 2 season stint in the UAAP will not be denied. Hopefully before reaching the age of 28 to 30 yrs. Old he may be considered, same case with BGR which on his case he already played in an official FIBA sanctioned event e.g. 3X3 both local and international, also in the SEA games, the ABL representing the local based team San Miguel Alab Plipinas and now in the PBA via Blackwater and currently with NLEX hoping as well to be consider as a local before reaching the peak age of 30. Another player that has a strong chance are Jason Perkins after a season stint in Valley City State University, a NAIA membered school, came to the Philippines in 2012 completed his collegiate career in DLSU from 2013 to 2016, started playing in the amateur league via PBA D League and started his professional career in 2017, also played for the Philippines via 3X3 and SEA Games 5x5(?) overall that’s already 10 yrs of solid basketball immersion. Therefore the likes of Jayden Harper, Sean Alter and Kate Bobadilla who had acquired(?) their PH Passport after their respective 16th birthday are still possible to recognition as a local in the eyes of FIBA for as long as they are actively and consistently involve in the local and domestic activities for a specific period of time. I think 7 to 8 years or a maximum of 10 yrs. Is fair enough but who knows maybe with a few luck 5 to 6 yrs. For the likes of the Philips bros., CK and KBOriginally posted by k3ttch View PostComment
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judging from the last window, I actually cant think how to make the team better in terms of personnel. they need players who can do a lot of things in a pretty high level. do we have that, that we havent seen or thought of? for example, this 3pt shooting. the guards and wings from last window, played well in the system they used but would be better if ALL of them can consistently drain the 3. its like, if you do get a 3pt specialist, you might be giving up something that the team needs in another aspect. Ange played for us then, since we will play JC, who will you replace him with? JMF? Chiu or Edu? ok lng naman and it is needed, but whatever Ange gave, its like we need that plus more. not one is to one change of contribution. i guess we will see this last window. Brownlee should mimic what JC would be giving us, so the plays and personnel around him should be more or less same with when we have JC. I dont expect a big change in that aspect. but i would like to see changes on the D specifically because Ange wont be there to help out coming from the bench.Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostWE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES
P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAANComment
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Of course there are precedent exceptions to those commonly exempted, but we really can't use those as the basis of why others will be approved ( at best we can say the player while unlikely to be exempted still has a chance ( yeah i think Kouame while unlikely has at least a better chance than JC etc) .
The point here is the principle that since this is an exemption to a an Age cuttoff rule , it does matter when you got your passport and when you started residency , it's a whole lot different comparing someone who established both as teenagers with someone who only secured both in his 20's , there are levels to this., and BTW there is no explicit cutt off , like must be 19 or younger , cause it's guidelines' for exception not rules . the rule itself is the U16 oneComment
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I think I know where you're coming bro. Good point bro. That is why it is imperative to have 2-way players in the team.Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
I want to put it this way: A prime Renren Ritualo would be a good asset in the national team as he can drain as many as 4 triples in a span of 10 to 15 mins. I mean if Ritualo gets his shooting rhythm, he can hit as many as 7 triples in a FIBA game which of course would be a game changer. But the problem is, Ritualo is a big liability in defense & he was so undersized at the 2-guard spot. If I have to choose between a prime Ritualo & a Jordan Heading, I'll choose the later. While I see a prime Ritualo to be a more explosive shooter than Heading, the later is a better defender mainly becoz he isn't that undersized at the 2-guard spot.
That is why I believe that a player like Dwight Ramos would always be a significant asset for Gilas. Dwight's 3-pt shooting may not be as good as a Jeff Chan or a Ritualo or a Dondon Hontiveros, but Dwight can do things that neither a Chan nor a Hontiveros or a Ritualo can do with equal effectiveness. Dwight is an overall wingman who can score, shoot, pass, defend, and handle the ball. Dwight is your jack-of-all-trades-master-of-non guy out there.
Another player with an almost (say a poor man's version) Dwight Ramos characteristics & value is Rayray Parks."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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While Clarkson is obviously the better player, I think Brownlee's edge with Gilas in the 6th window over the Clarkson with Gilas in the 4th window is Brownlee's familiarity with his Gilas teammates, his Ginebra teammates in particular -Iskati, Japeth & Malonzo. It is a big plus that Brownlee had already practiced/trained with the Gilas pool for a considerable period of time. That is something that Clarkson didn't have the luxury in his Gilas stint in the 4th window.Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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If Brownlee played , would he be our starting 4 ?
If so that's actually a plus , cause it's really at the 4 spot that we have question marksComment
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He's 6'4 1/2" without shoes, but he's quick enough to play 3, and plays 4 with Ginebra in a small-ball lineup. He has the strength and length to play the position. Problem is, he's 34, but he'll play hard for the NT.Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
And I think we still have questions at 3, not just 4. Although after RDO and Ping, that 4 spot was really weak before promising talents like Carl, Balti, Malonzo (a 3/4), and Mason came along.Comment
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Nah, JB is actually a legit 6'5 w/o shoes. Notice that JB is taller than most 6'6 PBA guys?Originally posted by IPC View PostComment
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this finals will be like a preview of how will Brownlee plays for Gilas in the upcoming window and other tournaments as he will face international size wing players , in the first match against Bay Area he dominated the game now it's a series and the other team has more time to scout and adjust, it's a series that really excite most fans as it will not just be a regular finals between 2 traditional pba teamsComment
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Agree.Originally posted by JOI2dWorld View Post
Brownlee would be matched against that 6-foot-8 Chinese "stretch-4" named Zhu & those Chinese small forwards which have the height & length that would simulate those Lebanese & Jordanians forwards that Brownlee will face in the 6th window.
Well, not only Brownlee but Jamie Malonzo as well. Malonzo has yet to exhibit good offensive firepower in Gilas the way he has showed in the PBA. We know he can play better than the way he had showed with Gilas in the 4th & 5th windows. I have a feeling Malonzo will come out of his shell in the 6th window."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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