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Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View PostKang Dong Hee will always be the pain in the ass for the Flying A and Rara Racela hence that so-called Korean Curse is not really a curse after all but an expose that was fully exploit to the hilt by one of the most disciplined basketball program of Asia. As per Sir Dotch, that fat PG Kang of AG98 and Lee Sang Min of AG2002 will always be in the subconscious of coach Johnny and coach Olsen until kingdom come.
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Originally posted by JOI2dWorld View Posti think SBP should be working on Cstan's exemption as he is more suited with the international game than Junemar, BAD targeted Junemar several times in game 1 trying to expose his lateral defense, though Junemar has a better post and mid range game than Cstan
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Originally posted by Dotch View PostYes, we showed our cards early. and history repeated itself when we beat Iran in 2007 Jones Cup, and them beating us when it counted most in 2007 FIBA Asia Championship
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It's not mere residency, remember it's an exception to an age cuttof rule (u16 passport). Without saying it outright, the unwritten guideline principle is residency and domestic play should commnnce as a teenager, NOT when a player is a pro in his mid 20s ( please do not cite exception to the principle like citing Jawato, that's beside the point).
Exceptions are generally for the collegiate players like Slaughter, Newsome who established residency and adopted the country as teenagers not for pros like Primgle , Ross etc .. it's a simple logical principle of basketball heritage ( where one was developed)
The one's most commonly exempted (passport after 16 yrs old) are those who are developed under the Youth team program (U19, U17 national youth team representatives, Batang Gilas has 4 cases of exception already who fall under this.
It's really a stretch to exempt a person who established residency as a pro in his mid 20s, this goes against the principles of adoption of a country for genuine allegiance to the country reasons and "development heritage ".Last edited by DAdmiral; 12-17-2022, 04:12 AM.
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I think Rhenz Abando would be ripe for a Gilas call up post 2023 World Cup. The kid has been playing impressively in the KBL. He has made some remarkable improvements in his game, his ball handling in particular. I think if this kid continues to improve in his shooting, ball handling & defense, he will be very useful for the national team as a shooting guard"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post9 Yrs. in the Domestic League in Germany (2006 to 2015), in the PBA 2017 to 2022 as of the moment and that is 5 yrs.
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Another excellent game from Abando, finishing with a scorching 30 pts & some shotblocks."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostI think Rhenz Abando would be ripe for a Gilas call up post 2023 World Cup. The kid has been playing impressively in the KBL. He has made some remarkable improvements in his game, his ball handling in particular. I think if this kid continues to improve in his shooting, ball handling & defense, he will be very useful for the national team as a shooting guardSamahan ng mga Bopol ng Pilipinas
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Originally posted by RedMetal View PostHopefully Philips, Balunggay, Luzero can qualify for the exception in the future.
the other likely prospects are those who represent batang gilas but got passport after 16 , ( two this year )
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Originally posted by ja.he View PostI see Abando to be in the same vein of Dondon Hontiveros, James Yap and Lordy Tugade - 6'2-6'3 players with high leaping-slashing ability and good perimeter offense.
Though Abando wasn't that impressive during his stint with Gilas in this year's FIBA Asia Cup, I think he didn't do that badly for a 24-year old first-timer with the national team.
Let's put it this way, when Jeff Chan played with Gilas for the 1st time in the 2022 Jones Cup he was impressive. But Chan was already 29 yrs old at that time. I wonder how Chan would have performed with Gilas when he was 24 years old? I say he probably won't be that impressive. The same goes with iskati Thompson who is playing very well right now with Gilas. But Iskati is 29 yrs old already. I wonder how Iskati would have played with Gilas 5 years ago?"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostI'll take an Abando with the shooting of a prime Jeff Chan with a slightly better defense than Jeff. This could happen 2 to 3 years from now. Which means 2 to 3 years of an opportunity to polish/develop/improve his overall skills while being exposed in Korean basketball & FIBA basketball as well (That is why it is necessary that Abando gets the reps playing for Gilas in FIBA games as soon as possible).
Though Abando wasn't that impressive during his stint with Gilas in this year's FIBA Asia Cup, I think he didn't do that badly for a 24-year old first-timer with the national team.
Let's put it this way, when Jeff Chan played with Gilas for the 1st time in the 2022 Jones Cup he was impressive. But Chan was already 29 yrs old at that time. I wonder how Chan would have performed with Gilas when he was 24 years old? I say he probably won't be that impressive. The same goes with iskati Thompson who is playing very well right now with Gilas. But Iskati is 29 yrs old already. I wonder how Iskati would have played with Gilas 5 years ago?
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we need a shooter who can somehow defend... and Trollano's name isnt mentioned?
and Tuffin?
Heading is over 6'1 so depending on the shoes should be 6'2 to 6'3. Most likely Panlilio et al are in gone 2 -3 yrs, why if he not considered?
Wright isnt a defensive player but if we compare to Jeff, should be the same or better.WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES
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