Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

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I think Abando just need more experience playing against those physical teams in order to get use to that kind of play. If RR laging mintis Pogoy had multiple invites to be part of NP, then this young man deserve a chance to prove himself. I'm just hoping we consistently produce & discover local athletes in Abando & Japeth mold.

[ja.he]

I really don't think that Malonzo is 6'7, not even 6'6. Standing beside a legit 6'8 Zaid Abbas, 6'5 is the real height of Malonzo. Abbas looks 3 inches taller than Malonzo.

Dwight is a legit 6'4 standing alongside 6'4 Dar Tucker.

[carmelo7]

I really don't think that Malonzo is 6'7, not even 6'6. Standing beside a legit 6'8 Zaid Abbas, 6'5 is the real height of Malonzo. Abbas looks 3 inches taller than Malonzo.

Dwight is a legit 6'4 standing alongside 6'4 Dar Tucker.

He's 6'5, no wnder Tim
Cone was surprised how "tall" JC (6'3 1/2 in predraft) was when standing beside Malonzo
Based on the eye test these are what i think their real heights w/o shoes

Kai 7'1 (while playing against Zhou Qi who is 7'1.25 barefeet) the 7'2 is a possibility but the 7'3 bit of a stretch
Japeth 6'7 3/4 (pba predraft)
Malonzo 6'5 (eye test)
Baltazar and Tamayo 6'7
Ramos 6'4
Parks 6'3 1/2
Perez 6'1
Iskati 6'0
Heading 6'1
Edu 6'9.5
Chiu 6'9.5
Tuffin looks about 6'3
Mike Philipps & Luis Villegas closer to 6'7
Lucero & Balunggay both legit 6'6 (fix their eligibility please lol)
Koon 6'4 1/2 (same as Lucero's eligibility)
Winston at 6'1
Jayden Harper looks 6'7 besides Mamoud
Caleum Harris 6'4.5
Konov 6'7
Mason Amos 6'7
Kouame 6'11
Jeremiah Gray 6'4 (i hope SMC will do something about his eligibility hehe)
Japeth aside i hope these would be our pool moving forward

And i wouldnt mind having Kouame as NP for the next 10-12 years, i prefer a NP that simply address our weaknesses(rebounding & interior defense while also able to switch on PNRs). If in the future Kai,Philipps,Tamayo,Edu,Chiu,Amos can prove that they can handle our frontline against worldclass bigs then sure get us a 25-year old version of JC and Brownlee

[ja.he]

He's 6'5, no wnder Tim
Cone was surprised how "tall" JC (6'3 1/2 in predraft) was when standing beside Malonzo
Based on the eye test these are what i think their real heights w/o shoes

Kai 7'1 (while playing against Zhou Qi who is 7'1.25 barefeet) the 7'2 is a possibility but the 7'3 bit of a stretch
Japeth 6'7 3/4 (pba predraft)
Malonzo 6'5 (eye test)
Baltazar and Tamayo 6'7
Ramos 6'4
Parks 6'3 1/2
Perez 6'1
Iskati 6'0
Heading 6'1
Edu 6'9.5
Chiu 6'9.5
Tuffin looks about 6'3
Mike Philipps & Luis Villegas closer to 6'7
Lucero & Balunggay both legit 6'6 (fix their eligibility please lol)
Koon 6'4 1/2 (same as Lucero's eligibility)
Winston at 6'1
Jayden Harper looks 6'7 besides Mamoud
Caleum Harris 6'4.5
Konov 6'7
Mason Amos 6'7
Kouame 6'11
Jeremiah Gray 6'4 (i hope SMC will do something about his eligibility hehe)
Japeth aside i hope these would be our pool moving forward

And i wouldnt mind having Kouame as NP for the next 10-12 years, i prefer a NP that simply address our weaknesses(rebounding & interior defense while also able to switch on PNRs). If in the future Kai,Philipps,Tamayo,Edu,Chiu,Amos can prove that they can handle our frontline against worldclass bigs then sure get us a 25-year old version of JC and Brownlee

Kouame is pretty accurate at 6'11. Even if he is just 6'10, that's still a good size for a bigman. He is almost as tall as 7'0 Al-Dwairi.

[Rodbi]

Kouame is pretty accurate at 6'11. Even if he is just 6'10, that's still a good size for a bigman. He is almost as tall as 7'0 Al-Dwairi.

With a standing reach close to or more than 9 feet to go along with his current agility and athleticism (barring anymore serious injuries), I think he's going to be a Gilas staple for years to come even if only in the qualifying windows and non-FIBA sanction tournaments. We don't have too many guys with those physical attributes, so better to just stick with him post 2023 WC. Perhaps, he can still develop a more well-rounded offensive game.

[carmelo7]

With a standing reach close to or more than 9 feet to go along with his current agility and athleticism (barring anymore serious injuries), I think he's going to be a Gilas staple for years to come even if only in the qualifying windows and non-FIBA sanction tournaments. We don't have too many guys with those physical attributes, so better to just stick with him post 2023 WC. Perhaps, he can still develop a more well-rounded offensive game.

And we really need a big that can save Kai from the physical centers while he continues to develop. Back in 2017 6'11 Al-Hussein of Jordan made an impact against JF& Japeth, in the more recent game he was a no match for Kouame because Ange can pushback. Saudi's 6'11 Alsuwailem, Iran's 7'0 Geramipour and China's Wang Zhelin would be a good match up for Kouame

[C2Hamm]

Tuffin is described as a 3 & D player. But as far as getting a call up for Gilas anytime soon, I think guys like Dwight Ramos, Rayray Parks, Oftana, Malonzo are ahead of him.
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That will depend on what the coach wants to happen. currently, we are lacking shooters. we did a better job in team defensive, but save for some players, that is an area for improvement. Tuffin is less athletic than malonzo or parks, but what he brings to the table is more appropriate to the team needs. i'd take him over parks, oftana, and malonzo. sama na natin si Thirdy. but not over Dwight even if Ken seems to have a better shot.

[carmelo7]

That will depend on what the coach wants to happen. currently, we are lacking shooters. we did a better job in team defensive, but save for some players, that is an area for improvement. Tuffin is less athletic than malonzo or parks, but what he brings to the table is more appropriate to the team needs. i'd take him over parks, oftana, and malonzo. sama na natin si Thirdy. but not over Dwight even if Ken seems to have a better shot.

He can have Pogoy's slot hehe a 1-2-3 rotation of Iskati,Perez,Dwight,Parks,Tuffin,Malonzo is good enough

[C2Hamm]

He can have Pogoy's slot hehe a 1-2-3 rotation of Iskati,Perez,Dwight,Parks,Tuffin,Malonzo is good enough

i use to want Parks for Gilas. but he is a defensive turnstile. so, id rather have Heading or Wright or Tuffin. they are not worlds apart from Parks (except tuffin) but they have more or less same shooting and ball handling but less os a liability on defense.

im on the fence with Malonzo. is he really that much better than Navarro? he is quite athletic sure. but outside of that, i dont see much of a difference between him and say, Kobe.

[carmelo7]

i use to want Parks for Gilas. but he is a defensive turnstile. so, id rather have Heading or Wright or Tuffin. they are not worlds apart from Parks (except tuffin) but they have more or less same shooting and ball handling but less os a liability on defense.

im on the fence with Malonzo. is he really that much better than Navarro? he is quite athletic sure. but outside of that, i dont see much of a difference between him and say, Kobe.

I've given up on Wright while for Heading its unlikely that the PBA will ever
forget what he did. Parks as shown on the game against Jordan can carry the offensive load on stretches when everyone seems to be adjusting still. While for Malonzo, as long as he stays healthy is a shoo-in because he's the kind of athlete we need esp after Gabe's retirement. Navarro has his moments but I think Malonzo is the better athlete and talent overall. I saw a lineup this window that have Kouame,Malonzo,Parks and Perez and it all made sense defensively. Now imagine replacing Parks with Wright and Navarro for Malonzo, it doesnt have the same potential defensively

[C2Hamm]

I've given up on Wright while for Heading its unlikely that the PBA will ever
forget what he did. Parks as shown on the game against Jordan can carry the offensive load on stretches when everyone seems to be adjusting still. While for Malonzo, as long as he stays healthy is a shoo-in because he's the kind of athlete we need esp after Gabe's retirement. Navarro has his moments but I think Malonzo is the better athlete and talent overall. I saw a lineup this window that have Kouame,Malonzo,Parks and Perez and it all made sense defensively. Now imagine replacing Parks with Wright and Navarro for Malonzo, it doesnt have the same potential defensively

thats the problem of switching coaches so late, we cant really say for sure because there is no more time to experiment. and I cant blame CCR for that. the lineup looked good, because we actually saw it.

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i use to want Parks for Gilas. but he is a defensive turnstile. so, id rather have Heading or Wright or Tuffin. they are not worlds apart from Parks (except tuffin) but they have more or less same shooting and ball handling but less os a liability on defense.

im on the fence with Malonzo. is he really that much better than Navarro? he is quite athletic sure. but outside of that, i dont see much of a difference between him and say, Kobe.

I've given up on Wright while for Heading its unlikely that the PBA will ever
forget what he did. Parks as shown on the game against Jordan can carry the offensive load on stretches when everyone seems to be adjusting still. While for Malonzo, as long as he stays healthy is a shoo-in because he's the kind of athlete we need esp after Gabe's retirement. Navarro has his moments but I think Malonzo is the better athlete and talent overall. I saw a lineup this window that have Kouame,Malonzo,Parks and Perez and it all made sense defensively. Now imagine replacing Parks with Wright and Navarro for Malonzo, it doesnt have the same potential defensively

Malonzo ain't the guy I would replace with Navarro. For me, it's between Will and Oftana. Will's our best wing defender, e. Will's more of a stay on your man guy, and Malonzo is a help defender. They can complement each other on defense, e.

I'm with carmelo7 on Wright. He ain't exactly a stellar defender, and he's underperformed a bit in FIBA. He's a good facilitator and shot creator (which suits him better than being just a shooter), but we have a facilitator in Iskati, and shot creators in Dwight, Parks, and Perez.

[carmelo7]

Malonzo ain't the guy I would replace with Navarro. For me, it's between Will and Oftana. Will's our best wing defender, e. Will's more of a stay on your man guy, and Malonzo is a help defender. They can complement each other on defense, e.

I'm with carmelo7 on Wright. He ain't exactly a stellar defender, and he's underperformed a bit in FIBA. He's a good facilitator and shot creator (which suits him better than being just a shooter), but we have a facilitator in Iskati, and shot creators in Dwight, Parks, and Perez.

The only players that can (or must) be replaced are Erram,Pogoy, Kquiam and Oftana. And a swap of AK to
JC for the NP. so Edu & JF for Poy & KQuiam, for Pogoy and Oftana?

[IPC]

The only players that can (or must) be replaced are Erram,Pogoy, Kquiam and Oftana. And a swap of AK to
JC for the NP. so Edu & JF for Poy & KQuiam, for Pogoy and Oftana?

My version is this:

Poy - June Mar/AJ
Quiambao - Tamayo
Pogoy - PG (Bolick/Kiefer/RJ)
Oftana - Navarro

[carmelo7]

My version is this:

Poy - June Mar/AJ
Quiambao - Tamayo
Pogoy - PG (Bolick/Kiefer/RJ)
Oftana - Navarro

Kai 7'1
Edu 6'9.5
JF 6'9.5
Jap 6'8
Tamayo 6'7

Malonzo 6'5
Adams 6'5
JC 6'4
Dwight 6'4
Parks 6'3.5
Perez 6'1
Iskati 6'0

w/JF and Adams as the 11th and 12th man
an effective rotation should be at most 9-10 players so having JF & Adams as an insurance big and another wing just in case Malonzo, Dwight & Parks gets into foul trouble guarding the big scoring guards of the opponent
Im content on not having a Bolick or Ravena, personally Id pick a Stockton from Converge as a 12th man, a 6'2 PG who has good length and energy (good for a 5-6minute run). You look at Jordan's Ibrahim and yeah with enough exposure Stockton can probably cover that guy for 5minutes

Maybe on the 11th hour Kouame will be considered a local then JC as our NP hehe