Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[DAdmiral]

The assumption is the laws of a particular nation grant citizenship not on the basis of a parent having to be a citizen or particular entnicity.
Will say it again if Alex Campton born and raised in the Philippines some how got Philippine citizenship (which is not possible or slim) even at around 20 yrs old. I believe he would he exempted.
The point of all this is for FIBA it isn't really lineage to a person of common entnicity for the country that matters, you can have blood from Mars .. but it's roots to the country, which includes among other things bloodlines to a former resident . There are hundreds of eligible players who have zero bloodlines to a county as we commonly refer to.. (Enthicity)

[JAMSKIE]

Hmm, i'm not too high on schonny as a wing. He will battle ramos, parks, thirdy, oftana, tolentino, navarro, even JC for position. Then you have wright, tuffin, dave ildefonso, maybe even heading on the outside looking in. Not to mention the 3/4 wings like malonzo, lopez.

Schonny's potential for me is as a big point guard. He has potential in using ball screens and attacking the basket and/or creating plays for his teammates. It's nice that he already has a developed midrange. He is in the pringle/mikey mold, but obviously he is a long way away.

Either way, schonny is raw pa for now. But potential is definitely there.

But if we are talking about the post-2023 Gilas pool, I think Winston would be a key component of the pool. We have to take note that CJ Perez & Parks are now in their late 20's. Matthew Wright on the other hand is in his early 30's & I think he has already outlived his usefulness with Gilas. The same could be said on RR Pogoy. On the point guard position on the other hand, Kiefer is also in his late 20's.

These are the players that I want to be in the Gilas pool soon:

Schonny Winston
Aaron Black
Robert Bolick
AJ Edu

While the players that I want to be out of the Gilas pool are:

RR Pogoy
Poy Erram
Chris Newsome

These players are already ageing ones & are on their way to the twilight of their basketball careers.

Japeth is still serviceable at least for the remaining 6th window & the 2023 World Cup. But beyond the 2023 World Cup, I think its about time we retire Japeth from national team service. I think the same can be said about Junmar.

[judasmartel]

TIL why we weren't able to get Clarkson to play for Gilas until the road game vs Lebanon.

[JAMSKIE]

These are the players that I want to be regular fixtures of the Gilas team post 2023 World Cup:

Kai Sotto
AJ Edu
Carl Tamayo
Mason Amos
Jamie Malonzo
Dwight Ramos
Calvin Oftana
Thirdy Ravena
Schonny Winston
Jordan Heading
Robert Bolick
Dalph Panopio
Iskati Thompson

Naturalized players would be anyone among Ange Kouame, Cameron Oliver & Justine Brownlee.

I think its crucial that we have regular fixtures in the natuonal team so as to establish & maintain cohesion/chemistry. Hindi yung for every tournament or window eh paiba-iba tayo ng national team composition.

If we look at teams like Jordan, Iran, Korea, Saudi Arabia, they send the very same players in their national team for every window or tournament proper, hence their respective teams are cohesive.

[IPC]

After 2023, the only players who are pressing needs for the NT from the PBA as of now are Scottie Thompson, Jamie Malonzo, Will Navarro (if he doesn't go abroad), and maybe Calvin Oftana and Robert Bolick, in my opinion. Although these are only four players, they're still valuable assets for the NT. Scottie for his vision, passing, hustle, rebounding, and defense. Malonzo for his defense, hustle, length, and athleticism at the 3/4. Navarro and Oftana for defense, length, and hustle at the wing. Bolick for another scoring option. If the PBA doesn't support the NT after the WC, these guys will be key losses for the NT. We might need backups to replace them effectively. We need options from outside the PBA that are at least almost as useful as them.

I didn't include Perez on the list. That's because although he cannot be easily replaced on offense (except by maybe Schonny, if he is selected for the Feb window and performs well), Thirdy and Schonny can fill his role on defense.

[JAMSKIE]

@IPC
Well, there's William Navarro to take Oftana's spot whenever the latter is unavailable becoz of the PBA's shitty calendar. WillNav has shown improvement in his offense since playing for Northport in the PBA & we all know that his true upside is defense. I think its inevitable that WillNav is KBL-bound which is definitely good as far as being serviceable to the national team is concerned.

Its Iskati Thompson who I think is hard to replace. But somehow RJ Abarrientos, who is doing well in the KBL right now & is expected to improve further, could be a good replacement for Iskati.

Then who knows Robert Bolick might try his luck either in Japan or Korea.

[IPC]

@IPC
Well, there's William Navarro to take Oftana's spot whenever the latter is unavailable becoz of the PBA's shitty calendar. WillNav has shown improvement in his offense since playing for Northport in the PBA & we all know that his true upside is defense. I think its inevitable that WillNav is KBL-bound which is definitely good as far as being serviceable to the national team is concerned.

Its Iskati Thompson who I think is hard to replace. But somehow RJ Abarrientos, who is doing well in the KBL right now & is expected to improve further, could be a good replacement for Iskati.

Then who knows Robert Bolick might try his luck either in Japan or Korea.

Will's struggling to shoot the ball efficiently. 14 PPG, but on 36.4% shooting (27.3% from 3), but at least he's trying to get reps in as a shot creator and ballhandler. Who knows, he might be our thin, long version of Jimmy Butler. A non-shooting defensive specialist who later developed into a key scorer for the Bulls, Timberwolves, Sixers, and Heat, all while retaining his effort on defense. I do hope he gets another KBL deal.

As for Iskati, hard to find another PG at his size who can replicate his combination of court vision, defense, and hustle. RJ provides a different skillset, e. Scoring, and his playmaking might be coming along. At 23, he'll definitely improve.

The guys I listed, sila lang ang kawalan sa NT if the PBA decides to continue with a crappy schedule, especially Iskati and Malonzo.

[IPC]

Hoops Highlights makes his debut as a writer in an article for Tiebreaker Times: https://tbti.me/s22hyi

He talks about Ginebra's wing rotation of 6'6" Jamie Malonzo, 6'4" Jeremiah Gray, and 6'5" Justin Brownlee, and how they are incorporated in the Ginebra offense.

The menu picture in the article is nice, too. Has the rotation's advantages on both ends.

I think Gilas teams should try to replicate Ginebra's wing rotation of Brownlee/Malonzo/Gray in terms of recruiting and development, from top to bottom, especially high-potential kids.

We have players in the youth level, college, and the PBA who can maybe replicate the wing rotation in Ginebra. We've seen them.

2/3: 6'4" Josh Coronel, 6'4" James Nacua, 6'4" Dwight Ramos, 6'4" Jacob Bayla
3: 6'5" Calvin Oftana, 6'5" Caelum Harris, 6'5" Jared Abadam
3/4: 6'7" Alex Konov, 6'6" Jamie Malonzo, 6'6" Will Navarro

This pool can be a true small-ball positionless lineup. Versatile on both offense and defense.

Hope we can develop and recruit more kids like the ones above, train them to be versatile defensively and maybe offensively. Hoping 6'4" Cholo Anonuevo of FEU, 6'4" Jolo Manansala of NU, 6'4" Justine Sanchez of San Beda, and 6'4" Aldous Torculas of UP can develop into players who can play the 2 and the 3 for the NT. Good thing for Anonuevo is he's trying to play like a guard in FEU after the guard training he got in the States. Torculas naman, he got reps at 2 during UP's trip to SoKor, and I hope he eventually plays that position (he's exclusively played the 3 so far in the UAAP).

[Giannis34GOD]

TIL why we weren't able to get Clarkson to play for Gilas until the road game vs Lebanon.

You know how expensive Clarkson is to Philippine federation... I don't know how much his earnings in NBA.. But still having Clarkson in your team will give some confidence to his teammates that "Hey, we also have high caliber player and can match up against high caliber talents all over the world"... I heard that many says Clarkson kills the ball movement of Philippines, But for me it's NO... Sometimes, coaches and teammates should adjust, especially that Clarkson is one of the highly regarded player in the World... Come 2023 WC, I see Clarkson will be in top 20 players who will play for next year's WC...

[JAMSKIE]

I watched the China-Iran game (won by China) in the recent 5th window yesterday at youtube. Neither team was impressive actually. While China missed a No. Of its key players like Zhou Qi, Gou Ailun & Abudu Abuderixiti, Iran played full force with the ageing living legend Hamed Haddadi, Mohammed Jamshidi, Behnam Yakchali, Sajjad Mashayehki, Arslan Kazemi. It was obvious that Iran, despite having homecourt advantage, couldn't hurdle the depleted Chinese team. Iran is no longer the same strong team during the late 2000's to the mid-2010's. Iran basketball is now feeling the absence of legendary wingman Samad Nikkah Bahrami. It also doesn't help the Iranians that the 37-year old Haddadi is now washed up & is no longer as dominating inside the shaded lane as some 8 years ago.
Another problem facing Iran is that it hasn't really developed or groomed younger players to somewhat replace Haddadi & Bahrami. Even Jamshidi, who is Iran's top wingman, is not getting any younger & it looks like Iran hasn't groomed anyone to replace Jamshidi the moment he retires from the national team.The turnover of talent in Iran basketball isn't that good.

[judasmartel]

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Doesn't Iran have Kazemi? What happened to him?

[JAMSKIE]

Doesn't Iran have Kazemi? What happened to him?

The Iranians still have Arslan Kazemi. But Kazemi is limited to being a role player - defensive four & rebounder. He's almost a non-entity in offense right now. Some years ago Kazemi exhibited some potential in offense. I don't know what happened to him why he seems to have taken a backseat in scoring.

[thatweirdguy]

The Iranians still have Arslan Kazemi. But Kazemi is limited to being a role player - defensive four & rebounder. He's almost a non-entity in offense right now. Some years ago Kazemi exhibited some potential in offense. I don't know what happened to him why he seems to have taken a backseat in scoring.

He was like the Iranian Manimal a few years ago

[JAMSKIE]

I feel CJ Perez' struggle playing point guard or combo guard especially in the game vs. Saudi Arabia could be attributed to his lack of reps playing that role. Let's face it, CJ has played as a wingman for almost his entire basketball career so far. Its not that easy shifting from a shooting guard/off guard to a point guard especially in the FIBA level. CJ needs the reps to get used to playing as point guard.

But somehow I'm impressed with CJ's ability to score in FIBA level. He could score if he wants to. That's pure offensive skills that he has displayed. CJ also played decent defense for Gilas.

[Rds]

I feel CJ Perez' struggle playing point guard or combo guard especially in the game vs. Saudi Arabia could be attributed to his lack of reps playing that role. Let's face it, CJ has played as a wingman for almost his entire basketball career so far. Its not that easy shifting from a shooting guard/off guard to a point guard especially in the FIBA level. CJ needs the reps to get used to playing as point guard.

But somehow I'm impressed with CJ's ability to score in FIBA level. He could score if he wants to. That's pure offensive skills that he has displayed. CJ also played decent defense for Gilas.

That's true. It is only now that Austria is playing him as a secondary ball handler. Whereas Scottie has played as a secondary ball handler all his career.