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Originally posted by sroth3839 View PostYeah lol I honestly hate how Kiefer keeps getting leeway to be inserted during clutch times.Originally posted by gideonNot sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.
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Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View PostFor our Bigs C/PF
we have a pool of:
Kai, AJ, Ange, Japeth, Junmar, Erram
Tamayo, Baltazar, Quiambao,
Maybe I forgot some names pf /c.
But I think we have a richer pool of Local Bigs now compared to any iteration of Gilas Program.
That pool will only get richer if 6'8" Seven Gagate, 6'8" Gab Demisana, and 6'7" Mason Amos develop well at the 4/5 (and maybe 4/3 for Mason), 6'7" Alex Konov at the 3/4, and 6'5" Caelum Harris at the 3.
I hope we keep finding and producing more 6'7"-6'8" Balti/Mason/Gagate/Mason/Konov type fours, and 6'5"-6'6" Oftana/Navarro-type wings. Emphasis on defensive versatility din sana.
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Originally posted by IPC View PostNot just the 4/5. We've had a better pool of wings lately. 6'5" Calvin Oftana, 6'6" Will Navarro, 6'5" Francis Lopez, and 6'7" Jamie Malonzo come to mind. Even off-guards like 6'4" Bobby Ray Parks Jr. and 6'4" Dwight Ramos have been good at the 3.
That pool will only get richer if 6'8" Seven Gagate, 6'8" Gab Demisana, and 6'7" Mason Amos develop well at the 4/5 (and maybe 4/3 for Mason), 6'7" Alex Konov at the 3/4, and 6'5" Caelum Harris at the 3.
I hope we keep finding and producing more 6'7"-6'8" Balti/Mason/Gagate/Mason/Konov type fours, and 6'5"-6'6" Oftana/Navarro-type wings. Emphasis on defensive versatility din sana.
Based on their game against LSGH (w/ Pablo and Gagate) in UBL, I count at least 4 big men from NU with size and length comparable to 6'8 Gagate. And this team is without 6'8 Drex Delos Reyes as he is injured.
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Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View PostPBA will cut the interval between Commissioners Cup and Governors Cup to 5-7 days to end the season early
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2022...rence-interval
PBA commissioner Willie Marcial said yesterday the interval between the end of the Commissioner?s Cup and the start of the Governors? Cup will be five to seven days to close the season by the first or second week of May in allowing players more than three months to train with Gilas for the FIBA World Cup on Aug. 25 to Sept. 10. Marcial said the final schedule is subject to approval by the PBA Board of Governors.
At the moment, PBA deputy commissioner Eric Castro said if all the Commissioner?s Cup playoff series go the distance, the conference will end Jan. 15 or 18 but the timetable will depend on Board approval to play games on Dec. 28. He noted the tentative start of the Governors? Cup is Jan. 20.
The PBA isn?t expected to interrupt the Governors? Cup schedule but will adjust the playing assignments of teams with players drafted by Gilas for the sixth FIBA World Cup Asia qualifying window against Lebanon on Feb. 24 and Jordan on Feb. 27, both at home. Gilas also has a commitment to play in the SEA Games in Cambodia on May 5 to 17 with the goal of regaining the gold medal. Since the Governors? Cup won?t end until the first or second week of May, there will be a conflict with the SEA Games calendar.Originally posted by Sikatrix View PostSo no finals teams again for SEA games. KBL plus UAAP plus eliminated PBA teams probably?
Hopefully Panopio and Edu will be willing to play too.
Avaliable useful or potentially useful players so far:
B.League: Thirdy, Dwight, Balti, Parks, Heading, maybe Kiefer, maybe Kobe
KBL: SJ, RJ, Abando
UAAP: Carl, Quiambao, Spencer, Kouame (NP), Chiu, Nelle, maybe Dave Ildefonso, maybe Anonuevo, maybe Lazaro, maybe Abadam
NCAA: Oczon, Valdez, Liwag, maybe Gozum
NBL: Kai
PBA: Scottie, Perez, Newsome, Japeth, June Mar, Navarro, Oftana, Malonzo, Pogoy (provisionally, based on last window's performance), Brownlee (NP), maybe Mamuyac, maybe Arvin
US NCAA: AJ Edu, Panopio
Youth: Harris, Konov, Gagate, Demisana, Mason Amos, Nacua, Coronel, Bahay
Although we can have as many ineligibles as we want for the SEA Games, I think we should only use one for the NP slot.
This should be just a pool. If there are any first-choice PBA players who are finalists (like Scottie, Japeth, Malonzo, June Mar), just replace them with the next-useful players at their corresponding positions, or close to their corresponding positions.
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SBP should actively pursue local classification of Kouame using basketball heritage as argument. Kouame as local is going to be a game changer for us since we can play with more combos and we can actually try more naturalized players.sigpic
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Am I wrong in thinking that the SBP or whatever the Philippines' basketball federation will be after the 2023 World Cup should blow up Gilas if and when Chualay and his friends from BCAP take over? I have lost all hope of Philippine basketball ever returning to its old glory after all the things that happened after our World Cup and Olympic run in 2012-2016. We are probably going to rank dead last in the World Cup again, this time at home.
The SMC in the 1980s and 1990s only cared about the Asian Games and they STILL constantly lost to China and Korea there, BAP kept sending terrible teams to the ABC and FIBA Asia tournaments in the 1990s and the 2000s, and I have this impression that Chualay will do the same. Or worse, treat the national team as a farm team for the SMC teams so that they could continue their dominance in their bush league known as the SMC-PBA. They are going to waste Kai Sotto's prime and turn him into June Mar Fajardo 2.0.
I am sorry if this reads like I am ranting, I have lost faith in the SBP to turn things around by 2023 and beyond.Last edited by judasmartel; 11-15-2022, 04:44 PM.Originally posted by gideonNot sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.
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Originally posted by judasmartel View PostAm I wrong in thinking that the SBP or whatever the Philippines' basketball federation will be after the 2023 World Cup should blow up Gilas if and when Chualay and his friends from BCAP take over? I have lost all hope of Philippine basketball ever returning to its old glory after all the things that happened after our World Cup and Olympic run in 2012-2016. We are probably going to rank dead last in the World Cup again, this time at home.
The SMC in the 1980s and 1990s only cared about the Asian Games and they STILL constantly lost to China and Korea there, BAP kept sending terrible teams to the ABC and FIBA Asia tournaments in the 1990s and the 2000s, and I have this impression that Chualay will do the same. Or worse, treat the national team as a farm team for the SMC teams so that they could continue their dominance in their bush league known as the SMC-PBA. They are going to waste Kai Sotto's prime and turn him into June Mar Fajardo 2.0.
I am sorry if this reads like I am ranting, I have lost faith in the SBP to turn things around by 2023 and beyond.Originally posted by Rodbi View Post2023 is a good year for PBA to revert back to an October-June or July season. It seems unlikely though with an impending change of leadership in the SBP that's arguably going to serve PBA's interest more than the NT's.Originally posted by CoJ View Postim worried that after our hosting of the world cup that the PBA and SBP will no longer put that much attention in building a competitive teamOriginally posted by Rodbi View PostAnd just focus on SEAG and ASIAD.
Back to BAP days once again if so.
This is why people lose trust with the PBA. Best players aren't available due to scheduling (see 2019 WC, FIBA windows before the August window, and Asia Cup), and the eligible players sent before the past two windows hadn't exactly been good enough like Troy, Wright, Almazan, Pogoy (before this window), Erram, even Paul Lee later on. Too many of those types, and too few players of Japeth (35yo version), June Mar, CJ Perez, Terrence Romeo quality.
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You failed to include Winston of La Salle
Avaliable useful or potentially useful players so far:
B.League: Thirdy, Dwight, Balti, Parks, Heading, maybe Kiefer, maybe Kobe
KBL: SJ, RJ, Abando
UAAP: Carl, Quiambao, Spencer, Kouame (NP), Chiu, Nelle, maybe Dave Ildefonso, maybe Anonuevo, maybe Lazaro, maybe Abadam
NCAA: Oczon, Valdez, Liwag, maybe Gozum
NBL: Kai
PBA: Scottie, Perez, Newsome, Japeth, June Mar, Navarro, Oftana, Malonzo, Pogoy (provisionally, based on last window's performance), Brownlee (NP), maybe Mamuyac, maybe Arvin
US NCAA: AJ Edu, Panopio
Youth: Harris, Konov, Gagate, Demisana, Mason Amos, Nacua, Coronel, Bahay
Although we can have as many ineligibles as we want for the SEA Games, I think we should only use one for the NP slot.
This should be just a pool. If there are any first-choice PBA players who are finalists (like Scottie, Japeth, Malonzo, June Mar), just replace them with the next-useful players at their corresponding positions, or close to their corresponding positions.[/QUOTE]
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Originally posted by live_evil View PostSBP should actively pursue local classification of Kouame using basketball heritage as argument. Kouame as local is going to be a game changer for us since we can play with more combos and we can actually try more naturalized players.
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Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View PostOne of main criteria of FIBA is their bloodline, So it means 100% Kouame will not get that exemption process.... Kouame is pure Ivorian...WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES
P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN
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