Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[thatweirdguy]

This is the reason why I would rather have Baltazar than Japeth - Japeth is another spacing killer. He can't play side-by-side with Kai. Also, if Edu plays, Japeth will just be a third-string center behind Kai and AJ.

Given a choice I'd rather have another player than inconsistent Jap. Also Japeth used to have a good midrange game. What happened?

[thatweirdguy]

So who would that be? Heading? Abando?

In the PBA, CJ Perez? Or Newsome?

The thing is, Abando, Perez & Newsome would need more reps to get the feel of the FIBA game. I think yun ang lamang ni Thirdy from the rest of the pack.

Well he looked super bad so far under Chot. And do we really need another non shooter next to JC?

[IPC]

gozum deserves a national team call up.

Watched a few Benilde games in Filoil. Charles runs a more modern offensive system. Good ball movement, and take threes when open. Honestly, I want them to succeed in the NCAA because of that. Just improve the defense, though.

And Gozum, well, he's dribbling and taking threes. Sometimes, he can station outside. I dunno whether this is his natural play style, or Charles made him do that. In addition, he's listed as a 6'6" SF/PF in the NCAA page.

While Gozum could be an interesting addition, could his play style translate to FIBA, and can he be a tweener instead of a true big?

[ja.he]

Given a choice I'd rather have another player than inconsistent Jap. Also Japeth used to have a good midrange game. What happened?

Well, he tried. Remember the 2 threes he took in the closing minutes vs Lebanon? (he got fouled on the first but made the 3 FTS. Second one, never mind)

the thing is Baltazar has the confidence to hit from the arc judging by their shooting stroke alone. also, Baltazar actually has that shot.

[Sikatrix]

the thing is Baltazar has the confidence to hit from the arc judging by their shooting stroke alone. also, Baltazar actually has that shot.

He is better than say Navarro but he is a below average 3pt shooter even when compared to other pinoys. Lets see how Korea/Japan helps there strokes though.

[ja.he]

He is better than say Navarro but he is a below average 3pt shooter even when compared to other pinoys. Lets see how Korea/Japan helps there strokes though.

Baltazar's shooting form is already fine. All he needs is a play designed for him to take those threes.

[Sikatrix]

Baltazar's shooting form is already fine. All he needs is a play designed for him to take those threes.

He shot like 24% for La Salle.

[r1ck]

With regards to Will Gozum he really isnt 6'6" I believe, FIBA lists him at 6'4". I also remember when he played in the SLAM rising stars game he was mentioned to be a shade below 6'4". But if he can tone his body and transition to be an effective small forward then he would be someone the national team should consider calling up.

[شهرپارتیشن]

It need some good PBA players to fill roles.

https://shahrpartition.com

[ja.he]

He shot like 24% for La Salle.

Asia Qualifiers = 27%
OQT = 60%
NBL = 35%

[JAMSKIE]

I posted before, the ravenas best ability is availability. How many Gilas games in the last 2 years have they played without a ravena? The last window which used a lot of pba players, they were there. Feb window, supposedly noone was available, Thirdy was playing. So unless PBA allows its players, and they actually play for flag, the ravenas will always be invited .

Yeah, I agree, the Ravena brothers best upside is their availability. But my point really is that, who among the PBA's top shooting guards could be considered as an upgrade to Thirdy given the limited period that these PBA players would train & play for Gilas prior to the 2023 World Cup? As I've said, these PBA players need the reps to get the feel of the FIBA game. Maybe a CJ Perez could be considered as a bit of an upgrade but I don't think Perez would be a significant upgrade over Thirdy. Maybe Heading would be the better option, but just how committed Heading is to Gilas?

I don't think Newsome is an upgrade to Thirdy. Besides, Newsome is already 32. Rhenz Abando on the other hand is still raw & inexperience for a big tournament like the World Cup. An aspect which gives Thirdy some edge over PBA 2-guards like Perez, Newsome & Paul Lee is youth. Thirdy is 25, while Perez is 28, Newsome is 32, while Lee is already 33.

Let's face it, at 25, Thirdy has not yet reached his peak, which means that he still has some room for improvement. He's not yet a finished product.

[JAMSKIE]

Given a choice I'd rather have another player than inconsistent Jap. Also Japeth used to have a good midrange game. What happened?

Japeth's mid-range jumpers are as inconsistent as his overall game. One game he'll shoot the lights out, the next time he'll miss everything.

[Sikatrix]

Asia Qualifiers = 27%
OQT = 60%
NBL = 35%

The OQT is such an outlier. 3/5 shooting is too a small sample size to learn anything especially compared to the games he played for La Salle.

To add, NBL competition aint great obviously and even then this NBL Sample size is on 14 shots only. So small as well.

Meanwhile in 15 games for La Salle, he shot 11/48 so 23%. You can argue this is also a small sample but its clearly the best we have.

[ja.he]

The OQT is clearly the outlier here. 3/5 shooting is such a small sample size to learn anything especially compared to the games he played for La Salle.

Also NBL competition aint great obviously and even this NBL Sample size is on 14 shots only. Way too small as well.

but that does not take away the fact he is hitting his shots from that far. what he needs to do is to up his accuracy. it means that he needs to consistently take it. maybe, playing for Hiroshima will do that trick.

[Sikatrix]

but that does not take away the fact he is hitting his shots from that far. what he needs to do is to up his accuracy. it means that he needs to consistently take it. maybe, playing for Hiroshima will do that trick.

Well definitely he has to or else his three aint a smart shot.