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This I say, the PBA game has never been the same since the retirement of Samboy Lim, Bong Alvarez & Vergel Meneses. These 3 players had brought so much excitement to the game becoz of their hangtime & acrobatic moves.
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"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV -
I do think dave can be more shooter than dwight, but dwight is strong what doesnt work in us, is working well in this other side of the world..and speaking of Ramoses, I hope Bro. Eli find his grrove in uaap ball as he plays guardOriginally posted by JAMSKIE View PostTo becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
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hope eli changed his shooting form.. reason tab didn’t give him PT..Originally posted by reamily View PostPhilippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023
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read that as similar hairstyle. he's like walmart dwightOriginally posted by magic_chiongson View PostComment
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The PBA has never lacked with these types of players, I'd argue their are a lot more in the modern era than back in the day (Perez, Pringle, Japeth, Kelly, etc.)Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostComment
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Before then we had Gary Vargas of CDCP — sayang lang at he supposedly went downhill after a dalliance with drugs…and before Gary Vargas, there was the original “magic man”, Rudy Soriano…originally of Crispa before moving over to Mariwasa…he was never the same after his ACL injuries. If only medicine were as advanced in the early 80’s, we would have enjoyed his under-the-basket forays for a much longer time.Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostComment
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As athletic guys like Kelly Williams, Japeth, Gabe Norwood, JC Intal, Allein Maliksi are, they simply don't possess the grace, finesse & the artistry of Samboy, Alvarez & Meneses.Originally posted by KoolAid View Post
Maybe the rules of the PBA back then with the illegal defense rule had allowed Samboy, Meneses & Alvarez to flourish as such rule allowed them to go with their one on one skills. I think the illegal defense rule favored one on one artists or players who thrive in isolation plays like Meneses, Samboy, & Alvarez."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Lol the current pba gen despite the bad rep (deservedly so) still has far more skilled players, the game just evolved internationally we're just slower to adapt. No disrespect but put those stars from way back to now, then I bet some of them will just look like regular players for some teams.Comment
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It's difficult to compare players from different era because the way the game is played and officiated is different. But could you imagine those players shooting way more 3s now and doing more than posting up? If they were born today for sure their game would be different and would probably adapt to the modern game.Originally posted by Juancho View PostComment
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"Far more skilled"? I don't think that is the right phrase to compare PBA players today from say during the 90's. I say players today are more skilled but not "far" more skilled than players 3 decades ago.Originally posted by Juancho View Post
I don't think CJ Perez, or Chris Newsome or a Rayray Parks or a Robert Bolick are "far" more skilled than a Samboy Lim, Vergel Meneses or a Johnny Abarrientos.
I agree with thatweirdguy, its difficult to compare players from different era becoz the rules back then were different from what they are today. As I've pointed out in my previous post that maybe the illegal defense rules in the 90''s was favorable to good one on one players like Samoboy, Meneses & Bong Alvarez. But we can't tell that if Samoboy & company play in today's PBA eh di uubra ang galing nila. These players may also adapt to the current rules & playing style in the PBA."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Well, if Samboy, Meneses and Bong Alvarez play in this era, they will be forced to take more outside shots. They will also need to learn how take step back jumpers. The abundance of skilled and perimeter-oriented bigmen will likely force them to learn other facets of their game.Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostAttack
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In terms of outside shooting, I believe PBA superstars back then are more skilled than the present ones. I remember during warm ups Samboy, Ato, Hector, Allan, Alvin, Benjie, etc almost never missed. I even saw Samboy shooting from 25-28 feet during warm ups that time and was comfortably swishing it.Comment
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The thing is, Samboy & Meneses both had decent outside shooting. Meneses had that patented bank shot from mid-range. I remember when Meneses was in his mid-30's, he was more of a jumpshooter than a slasher as his quickness & athleticism had diminished.Originally posted by ja.he View Post"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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