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  • Originally posted by zairex View Post
    Every loss seems like we lost to Indo even if we are playing better countris. I don't like Coach Chot drama on and off the court. But also are alot of fans.
    Well we lost to Indonesia lol, that in itself is the point for many people and that loss is not just a single loss but the biggest symptom of the regressiveness of the pba and sbp, kinda like an unusually large mole that might indicate cancer.

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    • Originally posted by empyreanmaze View Post
      Well we lost to Indonesia lol, that in itself is the point for many people and that loss is not just a single loss but the biggest symptom of the regressiveness of the pba and sbp, kinda like an unusually large mole that might indicate cancer.
      As Nenad said "I understand the pressure of the fans and the people about basketball. But every issue seems to be very big issue and we shouldn't be that way."

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      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
        5th & 6th windows would run smack with the 2022-2023 NCAA season so there's no way Edu would be available.

        Academics responsibillities too.

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        • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
          Academics responsibillities too.
          Guys, is it possible that Fortsky Padrigao becomes a Gilas cadet prospect 2 years from now? I know a lot of people are turned off with him with the way he played for Batang Gilas some years ago. But it seems coach Tab has successfully "tamed" Padrigao & has developed him into a reliable point guard. Padrigao is what, a 6-foot-1 natural point guard? That's a good size PG. Something Phi basketball doesn't have in abundance.
          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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          • Originally posted by robert0326
            Pinoy fans are too demanding actually... That is what i hate it the most... Most of them naman eh bandwagoners lang... Just relax nalang... Let Chot do the job... wala na tayo magagawa if SBP/PBA likes him as a coach...
            I read your comments in TBT. You said there that Ateneo is an overhyped team and Tab is also overhyped. You even said there that he has this superiority complex and he is disliked by many coaches here in the country. By reading those comments of yours, it's obvious you hate Tab Baldwin.

            So I am not surprised if you say that let Chot do the job basically because (1) you hate Tab; and (2) you are a diehard fan of TNT.
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            • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
              I read your comments in TBT. You said there that Ateneo is an overhyped team and Tab is also overhyped. You even said there that he has this superiority complex and he is disliked by many coaches here in the country. By reading those comments of yours, it's obvious you hate Tab Baldwin.

              So I am not surprised if you say that let Chot do the job basically because (1) you hate Tab; and (2) you are a diehard fan of TNT.
              Just ignore him, he's really either a troll or a big idiot. I'm willing to bet its the latter or an idiot trying to be a troll.

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              • The value of scottie in Gilas.

                I consider him an upgrade over belanguel or abarientos

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                • Originally posted by robert0326
                  It just too much overhype from Tab even on tune up games, while UP doing the same but no hype... Let's see on UAAP... I'm also a UP fan since my relatives and some of my friends are UP alumnus... They were ignored even they are the champs... They still feel Ateneo and Tab always have the hype even they lose...
                  upon admitting here that you are a UP as well, then just shows your bias there. again, there is nothing wrong about losing games, even with Chot. it's the way we lose those games and the attitude of Chot towards the Gilas is what we don't like. Fans want certainty - a right direction. That's what they see on Tab.

                  If it was Goldwyn handling Gilas, maybe the fans will calm down.
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                  • Originally posted by deku_midoriya View Post
                    The value of scottie in Gilas.

                    I consider him an upgrade over belanguel or abarientos

                    Scottie has a chance. He needs more reps though. Also, leaving his man to challenge or rebound in the paint is dangerous if the ball gets to his man.

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                    • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                      upon admitting here that you are a UP as well, then just shows your bias there. again, there is nothing wrong about losing games, even with Chot. it's the way we lose those games and the attitude of Chot towards the Gilas is what we don't like. Fans want certainty - a right direction. That's what they see on Tab.

                      If it was Goldwyn handling Gilas, maybe the fans will calm down.
                      What kind of direction. If asking getting best player PBA and Uaap and other leagues to adjust to FIBa, Nenad already said its hard to do even in other countries. I would love it but its really difficult. Even US basketball has that problem with NBA. Can we asked NBA to let JC play with us in window games.

                      Look at Japan, they got destroyed more by their competition than us. Yet you don't see drama.

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                      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                        Guys, is it possible that Fortsky Padrigao becomes a Gilas cadet prospect 2 years from now? I know a lot of people are turned off with him with the way he played for Batang Gilas some years ago. But it seems coach Tab has successfully "tamed" Padrigao & has developed him into a reliable point guard. Padrigao is what, a 6-foot-1 natural point guard? That's a good size PG. Something Phi basketball doesn't have in abundance.
                        Nope, chot reyes and padrigao together is a disaster waiting to happen. An out of control point guard and a coach who lets guards do whatever they want.
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                        • Originally posted by live_evil View Post
                          Nope, chot reyes and padrigao together is a disaster waiting to happen. An out of control point guard and a coach who lets guards do whatever they want.
                          Kid cn get better. Like Castro, was once a rookie who had limited skill setsand poor decision makinh

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                          • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                            What kind of direction. If asking getting best player PBA and Uaap and other leagues to adjust to FIBa, Nenad already said its hard to do even in other countries. I would love it but its really difficult. Even US basketball has that problem with NBA. Can we asked NBA to let JC play with us in window games.

                            Look at Japan, they got destroyed more by their competition than us. Yet you don't see drama.
                            You picked the perfect example of a team with a good "direction": Japan which has good structure and program.

                            Example is their youth team, managed by competent people that is why they are one of the best in Asia. While we have an incompetent coach (who is only there because of his father clinging to a rather moot glory from the past) who goes into a zone against a team shooting well from 3 ( I called it right after the Qatar game when that idiot didn't even experiment with a zone when Qatar was keeping it close with their drives then he used it against Lebanon, talk about stupid)

                            Now you got the egotistic federation, back when Tab was handling Gilas there was real hope and it showed when we can be competitive even against Serbia, now its someone who is just full of bs excuses who can't even have half of what Tab brings in terms of having a system.

                            Tab even proved he can compete with some of the better teams in the world with no players from PBA so that should not really be the biggest concern , its clearly the ones in SBP and the current coach who are the real problem.

                            Also fyi: Japan destroyed us in Asia Cup so I don't see why they should be the ones complaining LOL

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                            • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                              What kind of direction. If asking getting best player PBA and Uaap and other leagues to adjust to FIBa, Nenad already said its hard to do even in other countries. I would love it but its really difficult. Even US basketball has that problem with NBA. Can we asked NBA to let JC play with us in window games.

                              Look at Japan, they got destroyed more by their competition than us. Yet you don't see drama.
                              Japan has been very organized in forming their national team since the lifting of their suspension.

                              Although most of them came from different B.League, they have a walkthrough with how things are working under Hovasse and Lamas before that even a 2-3 weeks of preparation is enough. Another thing is Tom Hovasse is a fulltime coach - very different from Chot Reyes, who last sunday was coaching TNT then, the day after, was coaching Gilas.
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                              • Originally posted by Juancho View Post
                                You picked the perfect example of a team with a good "direction": Japan which has good structure and program.

                                Example is their youth team, managed by competent people that is why they are one of the best in Asia. While we have an incompetent coach (who is only there because of his father clinging to a rather moot glory from the past) who goes into a zone against a team shooting well from 3 ( I called it right after the Qatar game when that idiot didn't even experiment with a zone when Qatar was keeping it close with their drives then he used it against Lebanon, talk about stupid)

                                Now you got the egotistic federation, back when Tab was handling Gilas there was real hope and it showed when we can be competitive even against Serbia, now its someone who is just full of bs excuses who can't even have half of what Tab brings in terms of having a system.

                                Tab even proved he can compete with some of the better teams in the world with no players from PBA so that should not really be the biggest concern , its clearly the ones in SBP and the current coach who are the real problem.

                                Also fyi: Japan destroyed us in Asia Cup so I don't see why they should be the ones complaining LOL
                                You like to compare result right we keep losing. Japan also keep on losing and loss to China big. While China loss to Lebanon.
                                Yes their youth is doing good but we talking about senior team. We lost to Japan with our Gilas being a more younger team against Japan pro with an NBA player, Naturalized and one NCAA. Thou NBa player got injured. Yet this team can't beat China. Isnt that a problem. If they can't beat China. Who will they beat in WC

                                They are 2 - 4 in Windows worst than PHL bit no one is making it a bigger issue like Nenad thinks we are doing here.

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