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  • Originally posted by Bonifacio View Post
    I thought there was a plan of converting Thirdy to a PG in Japan. Did they ever try it? If Thirdy can only be converted to a PG then that would a good solution.
    he had very little time training in japan. there was no way he can transition during that period. however, his next stint will allow him to have longer time with the team. so we will see a breakout game of thirdy. hope and pray he stay healthy.
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    • There is a question I am really curious about.

      Does SJ and Kai have Grudge to each other???? Lol.

      SJ never passed the ball to Kai. Vice Versa. HHa

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      • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
        There is a question I am really curious about.

        Does SJ and Kai have Grudge to each other???? Lol.

        SJ never passed the ball to Kai. Vice Versa. HHa
        I think that they just couldnt see each other with a 6'6 guard guarding SJ

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        • Originally posted by Bonifacio View Post
          I think that they just couldnt see each other with a 6'6 guard guarding SJ
          serbia actually played good defense with our small pg's always bothering them with their long arms.
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          • Now you see the difference between RJ and JC. The reason I immediately squash the analysis of RJ better than JC.

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            • I will say it again , there are levels to individual talent , we are NOT a top 15 nation in the world based on individual talent , for us to be competitive at world stage regardless if we use the best players available (Pros etc) we can not win relying on individual talent we can only level the playing field via team play.

              Solano , Nunez and Liz are not NBA players , it goes to show you there are really levels to individual talent

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              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                I will say it again , there are levels to individual talent , we are NOT a top 15 nation in the world based on individual talent , for us to be competitive at world stage regardless if we use the best players available (Pros etc) we can not win relying on individual talent we can only level the playing field via team play.

                Solano , Nunez and Liz are not NBA players , it goes to show you there are really levels to individual talent
                Where is your chemistry beats talent. After one game you go back and say that their is levels to this talent. So the talent level suddenly decrease because of this game. So can Ateneo beat PBA teams now.

                Experience and harden thru professional leagues is also needed.thays why PBA players are needed. Even CTB says so.
                Thats why 2014 WC was better in terms of handling different teams with different play style.

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                • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                  There is a question I am really curious about.

                  Does SJ and Kai have Grudge to each other???? Lol.

                  SJ never passed the ball to Kai. Vice Versa. HHa

                  Someone here mentioned it started at the Batang Gilas time,but I thought it was with the PG with "hair on his face" who plays like SJ dribble,dribble don't look for the open postman chuck a 3.

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                  • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                    Where is your chemistry beats talent. After one game you go back and say that their is levels to this talent. So the talent level suddenly decrease because of this game. So can Ateneo beat PBA teams now.

                    Experience and harden thru professional leagues is also needed.thays why PBA players are needed. Even CTB says so.
                    Thats why 2014 WC was better in terms of handling different teams with different play style.
                    You're confused, i've been saying this ever since not just after 1 game, the pedigree of available players for a nation is the borometer of talent , not games and certainly not 1 game. Dwight and Heading were NOT, top 250 players when they played for US colleges.

                    Of course Ateneo can beat PBA local teams especially using FIBA rules, it's already been done, and contiunues to be true.

                    More matured professionals defintiely will help , no one is saying otherwise. ( certainly not Tab) but these pros don't necesssary have to come from the PBA. Clakrson, Kiefer, Thirdy, Tuffin etc etc , obviously having dwight will help . And yes Kiefer happnens to be in the PBA, but if he's not , it does not matter , it's NOT necessary they have to come from the PBA , they can be matured pros playing elsewhere., that helps, just look at DR, they're matured , but how many of them play in the DR league?
                    Last edited by DAdmiral; 07-01-2021, 10:17 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                      Where is your chemistry beats talent. After one game you go back and say that their is levels to this talent. So the talent level suddenly decrease because of this game. So can Ateneo beat PBA teams now.

                      Experience and harden thru professional leagues is also needed.thays why PBA players are needed. Even CTB says so.
                      Thats why 2014 WC was better in terms of handling different teams with different play style.
                      Pero kasi kung 10 days lang ipapahiram ng PBA, eh huwag na lang, it must be long-term like with Chot's team in 2013-14.
                      Originally posted by gideon
                      Not sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.

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                      • Despite a sour end to their 2021 FIBA Olympic Qualifying Tournament-Belgrade campaign, Gilas Pilipinas still has a lot to be proud about. And for Jordan Heading, the only player in the young Gilas team that is considered as a “pro” player, he hopes that they were able to prove that they belong in the world […]


                        Casing point , Jordan Heading, is the only player in the young Gilas team that is considered as a “pro” player, yet he hasn't played a PBA game.
                        meaning does not necessarily have to be PBA pros

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                        • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                          https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/j...d-stage/212324

                          Casing point , Jordan Heading, is the only player in the young Gilas team that is considered as a “pro” player, yet he hasn't played a PBA game.
                          meaning does not necessarily have to be PBA pros
                          He played in ABL thats why he is pro. But not long time and not a seasoned one.

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                          • Originally posted by Bonifacio View Post
                            I think that they just couldnt see each other with a 6'6 guard guarding SJ
                            SJ won't be seeing Kai at low post even if its only 5-foot-8 point guard harassing SJ becoz sa ring sya palagi nakatingin Just kidding

                            Speaking of a point guard that feeds the big guy in the post well, isn't that one upside in Kiefer's game? I have this feeling that if Kiefer plays with this current Gilas squad, mabubusog ng mga alley opp plays & good passes to the low post sina Kai & Kouame. That alley oop pass by Kiefer to Kai in that short video clip of Gilas practice last February is an indication of what Kiefer can do with our top big guys in Gilas.
                            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                              SJ won't be seeing Kai at low post even if its only 5-foot-8 point guard harassing SJ becoz sa ring sya palagi nakatingin Just kidding

                              Speaking of a point guard that feeds the big guy in the post well, isn't that one upside in Kiefer's game? I have this feeling that if Kiefer plays with this current Gilas squad, mabubusog ng mga alley opp plays & good passes to the low post sina Kai & Kouame. That alley oop pass by Kiefer to Kai in that short video clip of Gilas practice last February is an indication of what Kiefer can do with our top big guys in Gilas.
                              okay naman but sj had 10 assist are we sure kiefer will not unleash his mamba side when he is pg ing the team..
                              Calling a spade a spade whos ethe lead guard of fiba 2019 world cup team...if you really murder thatteam in ibn bakit di yun lead guard simpleng pasa nga lang kay blatch sa top of the key sa angola di pa nagawa

                              mamba mentality has two types, the black mamba mentality and in pinoy terms mamba bakal mentality
                              To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                              1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                              • Analyzed

                                If we don't have talent then how we keep close to Top 15 competition? Didn't Coach Rajko, Tab and Dickel said we have talent to be competitive? Should thier opinion value more?

                                When did Ateneo defeated PBA in competitive game with FIBA rules?

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