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  • Originally posted by Dotch View Post
    Politic beliefs? Anti Vax? I dont think those are the reasons. I still think he advocates exploring ones opportunities beyond the PBA. Among the 2021 squad, let see who went abroad and or have signed to play outside : Ramos, Balti, Heading, Javi ( since returned), RJ, SJ, Will... that's 7 out of the 12. and that's not counting Lopez who is supposed to go pro via OTE, Thirdy who played in the Jordan tour, and Carino, 1GDL and Kobe who were part of the pool at one point. Kai and Ange are different stories.
    Even Jaydee, Oftana etc got offers but the pandemic made it almost impossible for them to leave.

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    • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
      Well they needed a punching bag to take the heat off from them and Chot is the perfect guy. Heck he probably enjoys it. It didn't hurt that Chot can somewhat coach and is a very good tuta.

      I'm incline to believed,that there's some pesos and centavos passed down to ease his "pain and suffering".Plus the fact that Jr is coaching at all the Youth teams packaged deal too.

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      • Originally posted by Dotch View Post
        Politic beliefs? Anti Vax? I dont think those are the reasons. I still think he advocates exploring ones opportunities beyond the PBA. Among the 2021 squad, let see who went abroad and or have signed to play outside : Ramos, Balti, Heading, Javi ( since returned), RJ, SJ, Will... that's 7 out of the 12. and that's not counting Lopez who is supposed to go pro via OTE, Thirdy who played in the Jordan tour, and Carino, 1GDL and Kobe who were part of the pool at one point. Kai and Ange are different stories.

        Tab's prodding probably doesnt sit well with Dinosaur Vargas and probably with MVP himself. and the PBA board for that matter. Al being a yes man, of course will follow suit.
        Tab seems to have a good relationship with MVP, so it's probably just with Panlilio + PBA

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        • Originally posted by paulrenzo View Post
          Tab seems to have a good relationship with MVP, so it's probably just with Panlilio + PBA

          Panlilio's head should be on the chopping block too then,that should be the demand by PNetizens.

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          • Originally posted by paulrenzo View Post
            Tab seems to have a good relationship with MVP, so it's probably just with Panlilio + PBA
            Vargas also comes off as a Ahole. Good luck convincing Dwight and co to play for you.

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            • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
              I'm incline to believed,that there's some pesos and centavos passed down to ease his "pain and suffering".Plus the fact that Jr is coaching at all the Youth teams packaged deal too.
              Probably. And they're allowed to "learn" as much as they can while on the job. Great for them. Bad for Philippine basketball

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              • One thing SBP forgot is Tab was supposed to be the Project Director, not the main coach for Gilas WC. This is why he was looking for a European-style coach, right? He only coached in the 3rd AC window because of lack of options.

                So what is Panlilio mad about for Tab asking a break in coaching? Tab did not coach W1 and W2 in the AC

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                • Originally posted by Artek View Post
                  One thing SBP forgot is Tab was supposed to be the Project Director, not the main coach for Gilas WC. This is why he was looking for a European-style coach, right? He only coached in the 3rd AC window because of lack of options.

                  So what is Panlilio mad about for Tab asking a break in coaching? Tab did not coach W1 and W2 in the AC
                  Correct ! Furthermore even coach Chot wasn't available for the 3rd window (due to TNT), so why wasn't he asked to step down as well as program director? Like Tab in February.
                  This clearly shows SBP reasons are flawed , and no one believes their excuses.
                  It also means Chot's excuse that he has to coach and not Nenad, cause he was appointed, is actually not true . He actually does not need to coach!

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                  • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                    Correct ! Furthermore even coach Chot wasn't available for the 3rd window (due to TNT), so why wasn't he asked to step down as well as program director? Like Tab in February.
                    This clearly shows SBP reasons are flawed , and no one believes their excuses.
                    It also means Chot's excuse that he has to coach and not Nenad, cause he was appointed, is actually not true . He actually does not need to coach!
                    Yeah, I mean WTF.

                    Chot assigned Nenad to handle the 3rd Window while he was busy with TNT. So why couldn't SBP just let Tab assign Chot in the February window then return as HC for the 3rd?

                    Just look at the ACQ. Dickel and Jong handled the first two windows while Tab eventually took over in the final window. What's wrong with that setup? We were able to get Dwight, Thirdy, Ange, and Will for that WCQ February window, so we were more than capable of continuing the Tab's program even with TNT reinforcements. Let Chot handle it as a one-time thing and then Tab can be back on job by June/July.

                    No, Mr. Panlilio. You and Ricky Vargas should be the ones to be blamed for this clusterfuck.

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                    • Originally posted by robert0326
                      Why Chot? He little to none knowledge of Tab's system implemented before he was ousted... Why Tab not appoint someone on his assistants to coach that February window... Fernandez, Uichico or Garcia can do interim coaching basis with Nenad as their consultant
                      Because of TNT reinforcements. PBA isn't going to like the idea of lending TNT players under a non-MVP entity like Nenad

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                      • SBP thinks Filipino hoops fans are idiots, stupid and gullible.

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                        • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
                          Vargas also comes off as a Ahole. Good luck convincing Dwight and co to play for you.
                          I hope the lot of them (the players, Dwight and Co.) take their acts abroad and stay there for as long as they can. The men's team is in a shambolic state as of now.

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                          • Honestly, we have to be focused on finding a defensive coordinator, because Chot didn't adjust on defense in the SEA Games and in the Asia Cup. Supposedly, si Nenad 'yun, I dunno what happened there.

                            Names I can come up with are Norman Black, Chito Victolero, and Goldwin Monteverde, who all managed good defensive teams.

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                            • i might be in the minority on this, but i think fans are overthinking CTB's role on all of this. for me, he is being used as a scape goat.
                              i maintain my position since Feb when the news broke out. SBP has always wanted PBA to be the face of the Philippine basketball in the international stage. if CCR leaves for whatever reason on whatever fashion, expect a PBA coach to take over. Coach Tim is already in the shadows. I dont think SBP will use him and let SMC, if rumors are true, to do that next year.
                              even all the excuses around learning experience, its just conditioning fans that using PBA is the way to be. whats the latest news aside from Clarkson? lots of filam all of a sudden has green light? they could just start training camp and let news leak who's who in there but amid the aftermath noise of the Asia Cup, labas agad ng news to distract what happened.
                              I prefer CTB over CCR and even over CNV, but at this point in time, a plan for the windows until the WC is a much better news from SBP rather than just replacing the coach. doesnt matter who they put anyway, aide from Aug window, player availability will be a problem.
                              WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

                              P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
                              SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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                              • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                                Panlilio lied..
                                Panlilio's credibility has gone down to the sinker. So as Chot Reyes' credibility.
                                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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