Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[carmelo7]

Just watched a bunch of PBA games lately and man I don’t see someone who will be our “Wael Arakji”. Who do you think can step up and be at that level?

I know its a stretch but how about Chris Koon if & when he gets cleared as a local
6'5ish and looks to be more of a natural PG than Dwight

[IPC]

10 more seconds and LEB might have stolen the damned cup. Congrats Lebanon. Hope PHL can emulate what you'd achieved.

Hope SBP can have a good long-term program not dependent on band-aid solutions, and think of competitiveness and development, because that's what it will take for us to emulate Lebanon.

[IPC]

I know its a stretch but how about Chris Koon if & when he gets cleared as a local
6'5ish and looks to be more of a natural PG than Dwight

I see Koon as more of a 3&D player than a creator and facilitator as of now. Still valuable, as he could defend the wing and the point of attack.

[IPC]

So are we good that its not the dribble drive system was the problem? Not the coach as well? As many of the fans pointed out? Let's face it, we just sent our C team, maybe.

Regardless of the quality of players the effort on defense was bad. That reflects on the coach. The rotation also sucked. For a development team the rotation was short. Also prioritized offense oriented players than the better defenders.

Rotation of players and rotations on defense. Both sucked.

That prioritization of offense and bad rotations cost us in the SEA Games against Indonesia. Indo were shooting well prior to that game, so all we had to do was prioritize defending the 3, since we weren't shooting well ourselves. A few defensive adjustments sana (like putting in Navarro and Lopez, especially considering that Troy, Mo, and Pogoy were total negatives on both sides of the floor, even Wright was a defensive liability) could have won that for us.

Hay, nako. Fact is, we didn't adjust, we lost, world record.

[carmelo7]

I see Koon as more of a 3&D player than a creator and facilitator as of now. Still valuable, as he could defend the wing and the point of attack.

He definitely has the tools & he was alot quicker than i thought he was (like a real PG speed and handle)
It may be a while before he gets cleared but after 5-6 years (when he's about 25-26) who knows

[neo]

He definitely has the tools & he was alot quicker than i thought he was (like a real PG speed and handle)
It may be a while before he gets cleared but after 5-6 years (when he's about 25-26) who knows

overrated. for now.

this season he'll have all d opportunities to take it to d next level.

[carmelo7]

overrated. for now.

this season he'll have all d opportunities to take it to d next level.

id say unproven rather than overrated coz no one has really rated
him highly (except me i think lol)

[neo]

id say unproven rather than overrated coz no one has really rated
him highly (except me i think lol)

too many news about him being as good as manu ginobili etc.

[carmelo7]

too many news about him being as good as manu ginobili etc.

Oh really that bad huh? let me search those hype machines hahahahaha pero im hoping for a Daghles/Yakchali level of playing style, decent size internationally, not exactly a go-to scorer but capable and more importantly can run the Team for 35mins
Manu comparisons could be because of the 6'5 size and lefty, but as a ceiling? i wont be as dillusional lol

[IPC]

Heoball says that the SoKor national team's makeup has inspired and influenced some teams to go for taller perimeter players and forwards:

Seoul Samsung: https://twitter.com/heoball/status/1...anUP51fJA&s=19

KOGAS: https://twitter.com/heoball/status/1...jz6TP0FiA&s=19

They're just experimental lineups, but teams are stacking up on them. SGs and forwards range from 193cm (6'4") to 200cm (almost 6'7").

Maybe the senior team could have the same effect on the PBA and the collegiate leagues, if successful. Problem is, too often is the national team influenced by the PBA and the style here. 3-guard lineups, or 3-guard-sized players, undersized tweeners, too few 6'4"-6'7" versatile defenders, mga ganun.

2021 team could have been a good example of a positive influence, that towards 6'4"+ wings, and 6'6"-6'7" versatile defensive forwards. Versatile/switchable defenders in Dwight (6'4"), Navarro (6'6"), and Balti (6'7"). Sad to say, not meant to be.

[Rds]

too many news about him being as good as manu ginobili etc.

In fairness UAAP SFs seem to be bato bato. Dave, Lojera, Spencer. Probably started by Thirdy. Koon seems to be faster laterally than Ramos. If he bulks though he will slower.

[DAdmiral]

While there is lobbying thru whatever channels to get an exception, make no mistake about it, there is a formal process with application fees to be filed to get an exception, and there is a formal official decision. And Clarkson has a denial negative decision. Let's not compare his case with others who are either yet to be filed or yet to arrive with a formal denial decision.

While there isn't an explicit scoring system to determine a pass mark of who should be granted exception or not, Let's not fool ourselves or be piliospo, of who are obviously not good cases for exception. It is clear you have to have a resemblance of domestic residency and local basketball heritage . Additionally consistent with common law on rights to citizenship the age of residency and granting of citizenship is critically important to a positive decision, the younger the better preferably as a minor
Note entnicity absolutely has nothing to do with it , of course relationship to a citizen parent does have merit (it just so happens normally a Filipino citizen parent is of similar Asian entnicity).
But a Filipino entnicity parent who is not a former citizen of the Philippines means nothing (absolutely nothing)

[sroth3839]

too many news about him being as good as manu ginobili etc.

Nobody is a Ginobili until they prove it.

How does that work? You establish yourself in a decade.

[sroth3839]

Hope SBP can have a good long-term program not dependent on band-aid solutions, and think of competitiveness and development, because that's what it will take for us to emulate Lebanon.

IMO, what we need to work on post-WC2023 is establishing a consistent system in a decade's time.

Just look at Korea. They've been able to maintain their competitiveness despite frequent changes in head coaches and personnel. Why? Because they have a consistent blue-print on where their NT offence and defence will flow. Unlike us, they don't throw out systems and use a new one once the coach is changed.

[JAMSKIE]

Too bad for Choke, he might get the axe this coming August 1 general assembly....There will be members who will ask for the head of Panlileo and Chot...

Ho I hope this will happen. While everybody hates Chot, I think Panlilio deserves to get as much blame as well. Panlilio now lacks credibility & his decision to replace coach Tab with Choke Reyes is definitely the most imprudent decision an SBP official could make. Panlilio's ass deserves to be kicked as much as Chot's ass does.