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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
    Hopefully, Tab can use his connection to get overseas job security for Baltazar and Tamayo (and some of the others too) so that they can continue to develop their game abroad, even with a threat of a ban from the PBA.
    for now for sure tab wont do that as these two are still connected to their schools. maybe after they used up their eligibility or if they decide it themselves.
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    • Jason Castoish..

      i was trying to pin point what it is with RJ that i like, I think it's the Jason Castro potential.. the speed and RJ's ability to get off his shot..

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      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
        Maybe we replace the so called "Korean Curse" with "PBA Curse"

        At least yung China, Korea, Iran, Japan, Lebanon, etc., they could only beat us inside the basketball court, PBA on the other hand could mess up Gilas even before Gilas players step inside the playing court.
        Ouch! Would this context be included in what tactical immaturity means?
        PWE DE NA!!!

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        • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
          i was trying to pin point what it is with RJ that i like, I think it's the Jason Castro potential.. the speed and RJ's ability to get off his shot..

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          Here's my take on RJ:

          In an much as I'd like to have "pass-first" type of point guards in Gilas, I think a highly skilled PG like RJ Abarrientos is serviceable to Gilas. RJ is just too skilled & not to mention too gutsy a player to be ignored. I mean, how could you not admire the guts & confidence this kid has in his game? You can sense the confidence & composure he has in himself with the way he carries himself inside the playing court. Of course, he showed some immaturity & the over eagerness to score at times, but isn't that expected from a 21-year old first timer in the FIBA senior level competition?

          I say, moving forward, as RJ gets more experience in high level basketball & playing under coach Tab's system, he'll learn to become more prudent & disciplined with his game.

          I say this: yung immaturity ni RJ sa kanyang game is nowhere near to the "tactical" immaturity of most of our local coaches in the PBA
          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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          • With the impressive performance of the young guns, I hope that the SBP will stand by it and not let the PBA interference revert the program back to the PBA All-Star hugot

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            • Originally posted by zuma169 View Post
              let me just say this.. Tab Baldwin has done WONDERS for Philippine basketball and local players and coaches SHOULD ACCEPT AND RESPECT THAT..

              2014 FIBA World Cup - Tab as consultant for defense
              PHI vs Cro - 78-81
              PHI vs. Greece - 70-82
              PHI vs. Argentina - 81-85
              PHI vs. Puerto Rico - 73-77
              PHI vs Sen - 81-79

              2015 FIBA Asia Cup
              Silver Medal

              2016 FIBA OQT
              PHI vs Fra - 84-93
              PHI vs NZ - 80-89

              2020 FIBA OQT
              PHI vs. Serbia - 76-83

              vs. world teams that is an average losing margin of 6 pts.. 6 FREAKING POINTS!!! well we still don't have the DR game but man.... I think we have the best "margin" amongst asian teams..
              I hope we continue that track record. It's not just the ball movement system, it's also the defensive rotation. I dearly hope we make that our identity for the next few decades, while retaining our skill in 1-on-1 and gulang plays (of course we still need those, hopefully FIBA refs don't see them as much).

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              • Magaling naman talaga mga pilipino sa basketball.

                Sir Analyzed would disagree with me. But I think Gilas Players are always talented, just lacks system.

                That's why Coach tab envisioned us to be top 15-10 in the world in the near future.

                Kai will eventually get to his prime

                Dwight is near his prime

                Kouame is near his prime also.Though Clarkson may replace him in WC.

                Balti and Tamayo transitioning to wings are in positive development

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                  • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                    Magaling naman talaga mga pilipino sa basketball.

                    Sir Analyzed would disagree with me. But I think Gilas Players are always talented, just lacks system.

                    That's why Coach tab envisioned us to be top 15-10 in the world in the near future.

                    Kai will eventually get to his prime

                    Dwight is near his prime

                    Kouame is near his prime also.Though Clarkson may replace him in WC.

                    Balti and Tamayo transitioning to wings are in positive development


                    isama mo pa ang next batch of youngsters with Basti Reyes potential height of 6'9 and can be a Point Forward , and the Harpers 6'8 SG and SFs

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                    • Lol the so called imamturity on rks game is something can be teached and something thathe should carry in big games..di pwede di malakas ang loob.. theres a reason why we missed the go ahead basket on last two minutes..makikita mo talava kungsinu yun buo ang loob at nagagawa yun ginagawa sa practice..
                      To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                      1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                      • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                        Magaling naman talaga mga pilipino sa basketball.

                        Sir Analyzed would disagree with me. But I think Gilas Players are always talented, just lacks system.

                        That's why Coach tab envisioned us to be top 15-10 in the world in the near future.

                        Kai will eventually get to his prime

                        Dwight is near his prime

                        Kouame is near his prime also.Though Clarkson may replace him in WC.

                        Balti and Tamayo transitioning to wings are in positive development
                        Noon pa na wla tayong kinukuhang imprt t supplant the team.eh ok na tayo, ngayon pa na naging open minded na tayo sa ganyan
                        To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                        1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                        • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                          Here's my take on RJ:

                          In an much as I'd like to have "pass-first" type of point guards in Gilas, I think a highly skilled PG like RJ Abarrientos is serviceable to Gilas. RJ is just too skilled & not to mention too gutsy a player to be ignored. I mean, how could you not admire the guts & confidence this kid has in his game? You can sense the confidence & composure he has in himself with the way he carries himself inside the playing court. Of course, he showed some immaturity & the over eagerness to score at times, but isn't that expected from a 21-year old first timer in the FIBA senior level competition?

                          I say, moving forward, as RJ gets more experience in high level basketball & playing under coach Tab's system, he'll learn to become more prudent & disciplined with his game.

                          I say this: yung immaturity ni RJ sa kanyang game is nowhere near to the "tactical" immaturity of most of our local coaches in the PBA
                          You have to remember prior to last month, RJ had zero game experience at either UAAP senior or national team senior level.
                          So he's scratching the surface of his potential really.
                          Once he figures it out , it can be scary.
                          Remember he's way ahead of Castro , when Jason was still in college

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                          • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                            Magaling naman talaga mga pilipino sa basketball.

                            Sir Analyzed would disagree with me. But I think Gilas Players are always talented, just lacks system.

                            That's why Coach tab envisioned us to be top 15-10 in the world in the near future.

                            Kai will eventually get to his prime

                            Dwight is near his prime

                            Kouame is near his prime also.Though Clarkson may replace him in WC.

                            Balti and Tamayo transitioning to wings are in positive development
                            Magaling is of course relative.

                            Understand where I'm coming from when we're talking about individual talent , and how much high level players we have out there


                            Two of our productive players Dwight and Heading played in US colleges , the number of US Div 1 players from nations outside US who were playing ahead of the two(starter for mid major div1 ) are over a hundred easily .
                            Dominican Republic is just ranked 19 in the world, and I think some lower ranked Euro teams are even better than DR.
                            But DR individual talent level without question is ahead of any team in Asia . I mean all 5 positions

                            BTW NZ in terms.of individual talent is NOT a top 15 nation in the world in producing players

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                            • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                              You have to remember prior to last month, RJ had zero game experience at either UAAP senior or national team senior level.
                              So he's scratching the surface of his potential really.
                              Once he figures it out , it can be scary.
                              Remember he's way ahead of Castro , when Jason was still in college
                              I don't think so. Castro was a better finisher and able to score much easier and decision making much better. He even beat an Aus club team with imports, and his teammates were all mature including RDO. RJ is a bit better shooter from a far.

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                              • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                                I don't think so. Castro was a better finisher and able to score much easier and decision making much better. He even beat an Aus club team with imports, and his teammates were all mature including RDO. RJ is a bit better shooter from a far.
                                As a PG in college or 21 yrs old Jason, was he even playing PG at that age? And what competition?

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