Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[Dotch]

This FIBA Asia Cup tournament exposed that Carl Tamayo is not the unicorn that we perceived him to be. That he has limitations and he is still a work in progress.

He is not yet a good defender in the post and in perimeter.
His parental moves ( gulang) is not so ninja-like and so blatant. Refs will call that foul easily. If he is not careful, that'll be flagrant
The most glaring weakness is his ability to rebound. Only 3.3 rpg in 4 games

But for a 6'8 pinoy, he's really good:

He can manufacture his own shots via drive or post
His perimeter jumpers, form-wise is textbook, but it's still below 40% success rate. that can change through reps.
He brings toughness. But we do hope it wont cross the dirty boundary

[IPC]

This FIBA Asia Cup tournament exposed that Carl Tamayo is not the unicorn that we perceived him to be. That he has limitations and he is still a work in progress.

He is not yet a good defender in the post and in perimeter.
His parental moves ( gulang) is not so ninja-like and so blatant. Refs will call that foul easily. If he is not careful, that'll be flagrant
The most glaring weakness is his ability to rebound. Only 3.3 rpg in 4 games

But for a 6'8 pinoy, he's really good:

He can manufacture his own shots via drive or post
His perimeter jumpers, form-wise is textbook, but it's still below 40% success rate. that can change through reps.
He brings toughness. But we do hope it wont cross the dirty boundary

Yeah, the rebounding concerns me, especially given that he's 6'8". And even in the UAAP, just 6 or 7 rebounds a game. Hope he learns more how to box out, especially since he'll be a four for Gilas. Otherwise, need a rebounding presence alongside him.

[Dotch]

Yeah, the rebounding concerns me, especially given that he's 6'8". And even in the UAAP, just 6 or 7 rebounds a game. Hope he learns more how to box out, especially since he'll be a four for Gilas. Otherwise, need a rebounding presence alongside him.

Hell be perfect for a small-ball 4 or 5 on OFFENSE , but team is BBQ chicken on DEFENSE since he can't defend and cant get the rebounds. That's why Tab has Balti in the pecking order ahead of him.

[Artek]

https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/c...d-coach/245837

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Chot says ‘not much will change’ if Nenad is Gilas head coach

“That’s always a possibility but even if he is the head coach, it’s not going to give us a naturalized player or the players that we want. Not much is going to change. You’re still not going to get the preparation time."

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Isn't that the job of the program director Mr. Chot Reyes?

Someone can't just admit he's not suited for International Basketball

[fthesaint]

My apologies for the bluntness:
SBP= no balls
PBA= wanna be the main attraction and only cares about money- It's a commercial league. What would you expect
Collegiate leagues - wanna be like PBA underground
SBP sleeping with these enemies
Who's to be blamed? SBP because they aren't serving their true purpose. Who's SBP= MVP with PBA and collegiate team interests. Ginagawang palaruan lang ang Pinas. MVP did a lot of good especially post BAP pero I think it's time for him to go if he can't fix the systemic problem

[ARMIR]

Yeah, the rebounding concerns me, especially given that he's 6'8". And even in the UAAP, just 6 or 7 rebounds a game. Hope he learns more how to box out, especially since he'll be a four for Gilas. Otherwise, need a rebounding presence alongside him.

I wonder its because,in his mind he still wants to play the 3 in international games,hence not too concerned with the rebounds.Well if he keeps going to all Gilas games,then he will improve thru reps,and with all the other big men back next year,he might get to play his dream position.

[Dotch]

I wonder its because,in his mind he still wants to play the 3 in international games,hence not too concerned with the rebounds.Well if he keeps going to all Gilas games,then he will improve thru reps,and with all the other big men back next year,he might get to play his dream position.

The better 3's in the NBA and international basketball grab at least 6 rebounds. He's doing that in UAAP, but he is man among boys there, and he plays traditional 4. Still low for a big man in the UAAP.

[IPC]

"Defense wins championships." Defense is especially important if your opponent has the size, skill and athleticism advantage. You limit possessions so the score does not runaway from you, then you try to win with execution and team-play.

We keep thinking "speed" is our advantage, well a ball being passed is faster than any man dribbling it.

Yeah, defense wins championships.

In the Asian level, we won our silvers when we played good or great defense.

In 2013 and 2015, our defensive ratings were 98.3 and 89.1 respectively. In 2017 and 2022, our defensive ratings were really high, with 113.4 and 114.1 respectively, and what a surprise we finished 7th and 9th in those tournaments.

When the defense disappears, our performances are lackluster. That's a big reason why I think we should be focusing on defense, and add a little physicality sana.

[C2Hamm]

I think the PBA won't give players if Nenad's the coach.

CCR is coach now and he only got Poy. doesnt matter who the coach is, if PBA doesnt want to, they wont.

[C2Hamm]

This FIBA Asia Cup tournament exposed that Carl Tamayo is not the unicorn that we perceived him to be. That he has limitations and he is still a work in progress.

He is not yet a good defender in the post and in perimeter.
His parental moves ( gulang) is not so ninja-like and so blatant. Refs will call that foul easily. If he is not careful, that'll be flagrant
The most glaring weakness is his ability to rebound. Only 3.3 rpg in 4 games

But for a 6'8 pinoy, he's really good:

He can manufacture his own shots via drive or post
His perimeter jumpers, form-wise is textbook, but it's still below 40% success rate. that can change through reps.
He brings toughness. But we do hope it wont cross the dirty boundary

wow, he is a unicorn? although i think he is a better overall player than Japhet, I will consider Japhet a unicorn more than Tamayo. taller and more athletic. something you dont normally see. outside of 1 inch difference, Kobe Paras is more unique in Filipino basketball than Tamayo. again i think Carl is better overall player but we are zeroing in on who or what is a Filipino unicorn. how he actually plays is worlds apart from previous 6'7ish pinoy players but being a unicorn also includes physical gifts. outside of a bit more weight what is his physical advantage over almazan, ambohot, even an escoto or a faundo, guinto?
im surprised some think he is a unicorn. he isnt unique. he just plays better. but if some fans sees him that way. well and good.

[mapuakid]

^^^

China and Philippine basketball have different problems.
The thing here is that Du feng could probably resign at his post, but choke wouldn’t.
In terms of the line-up, china send competitive team compare to gilas.

[IPC]

Then you have people like this guy bashing Tab and defending Chot, even his performance after the SEA Games.

https://twitter.com/ChrisDTan/status/1549647515028717568?s=20&t=1nK0XYVbMiXiBB6Zr6vcpQ

https://twitter.com/ChrisDTan/status/1549653551106125824?s=20&t=1nK0XYVbMiXiBB6Zr6vcpQ

https://twitter.com/ChrisDTan/status/1549710481497391104?s=20&t=1nK0XYVbMiXiBB6Zr6vcpQ

Does he not realize that Chot's poor defensive adjustments (or lack of defensive adjustments) cost us in the Indonesia game?

[IPC]

^^^

China and Philippine basketball have different problems.
The thing here is that Du feng could probably resign at his post, but choke wouldn’t.
In terms of the line-up, china send competitive team compare to gilas.

The lineup for this Asia Cup, man. Whether intentionally or not, the kids got undermined when SBP had a backup plan for neither Kouame, Balti, nor Dwight.

[bluenote49]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hspLJM_iraE

@9:25 CT on Gilas.


BTW do you need a certain approval to get some forum function to work in your account? I noticed all of them are not available like embedding vid and pic.

[noyce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hspLJM_iraE

@9:25 CT on Gilas.


BTW do you need a certain approval to get some forum function to work in your account? I noticed all of them are not available like embedding vid and pic.

@8:45 Tab letting out that Ange had partial ACL injury during UAAP, not in Gilas training. SBP made it appear it happened in Gilas training, when it was not. meaning Ange could have played with it, if he wanted too (speculation of course). hmmm that may have been the last we see of Ange in Gilas uniform??