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  • Originally posted by Artek View Post
    Where is Kai now with all the bungled decisions that his management made? At this point, it might have been best for his basketball development if he stayed with Ateneo becauae EWP appears to think he is an artista, not a basketball player.

    Kai might have gotten offers from Japan, Korea or maybe even China if he stayed.
    I don't blame them. Not sure what happened with Kiefer's and RayRay's stints in the US (well, RayRay made a Summer League team, at least), but Kobe Paras's US stint was a disaster because he wanted to be more of a celebrity than a basketball player.
    Originally posted by gideon
    Not sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.

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    • Originally posted by judasmartel View Post
      I don't blame them. Not sure what happened with Kiefer's and RayRay's stints in the US, but Kobe Paras's US stint was a disaster because he wanted to be more of a celebrity than a basketball player.
      Not good enough, to be blunt.

      EDIT: We don't really develop talent well so when top prospects try to go to top leagues like the G League, the difference in quality shows

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      • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
        Kai was better off in the UAAP than the NBL? Seriously?

        NBL is way better than Japan and Korea and probably better than the CBA. It is now consistently producing NBA talent.
        But where is Kai now with all the decisions made by his management? They don't seem interested in letting him develop in the NBL either. They want to pimp him to the NBA as soon as they can.

        He's better off being in actual games as much as he can - that's the only way he can get better and climb the ranks.

        At this point with his management, he is being treated more as a model or artista which is stunting his development and does not do anything about his stamina.

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        • Originally posted by judasmartel View Post
          I don't blame them. Not sure what happened with Kiefer's and RayRay's stints in the US (well, RayRay made a Summer League team, at least), but Kobe Paras's US stint was a disaster because he wanted to be more of a celebrity than a basketball player.
          Kiefer, Kobe and Rayray's "US stint" should not be an excuse for EWP to treat Kai.as an artista. Instead of encouraging him to get to NCAA or accept the offers in Europe, they opt to pimp him to the NBA as aoon as they can without thinking of his development.

          In hindsight, anything beyond EWP is likely a better decision because we now see how they are not investing on his development, but more of cashing on his "fame"

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          • Originally posted by judasmartel View Post
            I don't blame them. Not sure what happened with Kiefer's and RayRay's stints in the US (well, RayRay made a Summer League team, at least), but Kobe Paras's US stint was a disaster because he wanted to be more of a celebrity than a basketball player.
            The only thing left for Kobe is to create an OnlyFans account to put the icing on the cake.

            Paging Arnold Van Opstal. lol

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            • Originally posted by Artek View Post
              Kiefer, Kobe and Rayray's "US stint" should not be an excuse for EWP to treat Kai.as an artista. Instead of encouraging him to get to NCAA or accept the offers in Europe, they opt to pimp him to the NBA as aoon as they can without thinking of his development.

              In hindsight, anything beyond EWP is likely a better decision because we now see how they are not investing on his development, but more of cashing on his "fame"
              Sounds about right. Young Pinoy basketball player gets good enough to play overseas, hype him up for the "Pinoy Pride" fans, then milk his "fame" to death until the next big-time Pinoy prospect comes out. Rinse. Repeat.
              Originally posted by gideon
              Not sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.

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              • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
                The only thing left for Kobe is to create an OnlyFans account to put the icing on the cake.

                Paging Arnold Van Opstal. lol
                Perhaps our local players now have the reputation for wanting to be in the big leagues only for the fame and not to actually play there.
                Originally posted by gideon
                Not sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.

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                • Originally posted by Artek View Post
                  But where is Kai now with all the decisions made by his management? They don't seem interested in letting him develop in the NBL either. They want to pimp him to the NBA as soon as they can.

                  He's better off being in actual games as much as he can - that's the only way he can get better and climb the ranks.

                  At this point with his management, he is being treated more as a model or artista which is stunting his development and does not do anything about his stamina.
                  99.9% of pinoys want Kai to be in the NBA ASAP. Sadly it looks like hell have to take a longer route but him holding his own in the NBL was encouraging.

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                  • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                    99.9% of pinoys want Kai to be in the NBA ASAP. Sadly it looks like hell have to take a longer route but him holding his own in the NBL was encouraging.
                    True, but either only for the PINOY PRIDE (TM) or because they don't really understand what it takes for a basketball player to be in the NBA, let alone play a game there. Akala nila ganon lang kadali makapasok sa NBA.
                    Originally posted by gideon
                    Not sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.

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                    • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                      99.9% of pinoys want Kai to be in the NBA ASAP. Sadly it looks like hell have to take a longer route but him holding his own in the NBL was encouraging.
                      That's the problem with his management. They are riding the "Pinoy pride" or Pinoybaiting bandwagon instead of heavily investing in his development so he could actually have higher chances in getting drafted

                      But they were more interested in Kaiju Academy and some commercial modeling.

                      And now, it's a question of they'll even get him to stick to the NBL to develop him game.

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                      • Originally posted by judasmartel View Post
                        True, but either only for the PINOY PRIDE (TM) or because they don't really understand what it takes for a basketball player to be in the NBA, let alone play a game there. Akala nila ganon lang kadali makapasok sa NBA.
                        They think Kai's height alone will get him in the NBA. PBA, maybe...

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                        • Originally posted by judasmartel View Post
                          Perhaps our local players now have the reputation for wanting to be in the big leagues only for the fame and not to actually play there.
                          Well, it's no surprise really.

                          Just look at our local point guards. Outside of Kiefer, who can really play the point? No one.

                          SJ only got better this year but he was very error prone last year.

                          Halos lahat ng mga guards sa pinas, puro wannabee Westbrooks and Steph Curries.

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                          • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
                            Well, it's no surprise really.

                            Just look at our local point guards. Outside of Kiefer, who can really play the point? No one.

                            SJ only got better this year but he was very error prone last year.

                            Halos lahat ng mga guards sa pinas, puro wannabee Westbrooks and Steph Curries.
                            It's just... sad. Since Jayson Castro's departure, there hasn't been any local PG who is even close to his caliber, especially for a basketball nation known for producing PGs.
                            Originally posted by gideon
                            Not sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.

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                            • Originally posted by judasmartel View Post
                              It's just... sad. Since Jayson Castro's departure, there hasn't been any local PG who is even close to his caliber, especially for a basketball nation known for producing PGs.
                              Everyone'a trying to be the flashy guard nowadays a la Harden and Curry

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                              • Originally posted by Artek View Post
                                Everyone'a trying to be the flashy guard nowadays a la Harden and Curry
                                Facu Campazzo or Milos Teodosic na lang sana. Their passes are so basic that they look flashy. Court awareness and BBIQ are top tier.

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