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Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostThat actually fills a Gilas void and need
One observation comment I heard from the recent NZ blowout was , it's not actually the hight difference (which is similar) , but it's Nz had real athletes and Gilas didn't. It 's more pronounced and evident on the defensive end , rebounding and speed to lose balls
Imagine how much better Gilas would be if it had three 6'5 " Abueva's at its disposal.
(i know its corny & kind of misleading to just watching highlights) so you could gauge the quality that Malonzo brings to Gilas
And speaking of athletes this was a similar
issue against Dominicana, so its reasonable to expect guys like Mickey Williams as NP, Parks, Malonzo and if SMC obliges si Perez and sana si Kai to raise that level
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostThat actually fills a Gilas void and need
One observation comment I heard from the recent NZ blowout was , it's not actually the hight difference (which is similar) , but it's Nz had real athletes and Gilas didn't. It 's more pronounced and evident on the defensive end , rebounding and speed to lose balls
Imagine how much better Gilas would be if it had three 6'5 " Abueva's at its disposal.
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostThat actually fills a Gilas void and need
One observation comment I heard from the recent NZ blowout was , it's not actually the hight difference (which is similar) , but it's Nz had real athletes and Gilas didn't. It 's more pronounced and evident on the defensive end , rebounding and speed to lose balls
Imagine how much better Gilas would be if it had three 6'5 " Abueva's at its disposal.
C: Kai Sotto (NBL Australia Role Player)
PF: AJ Edu (US NCAA DIV 1 Player) or Ange Kouame
Combo F: Justine Baltazar and Carl Tamayo
Swings: Parks, Perez, Thirdy, Malonzo(?)
Guards: Kiefer, Bolick
Something like this.
Bigs are ok. I know you are very high ofc for NZ Bigs. But I am confident Kai can compete with them especially against Team B Bigs of NZ. Same with AJ or Ange.
I think the Combo F can compete to. tamayo was the lone brightspot in that blowout game. I am confident Balti would have too.
It is the guards especially PG who I think was and is outmatched.
Webster kinda destroyed our Guards including kiefer.
As for Swings Dwight had a very bad game vs NZ. dont want to judge it by that 1 game. I am not sure if parks or Perez would have done better.
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Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View PostStudying Gilas Best Players in each position. And what level are they right now. (Players Level lang, set aside coaching and system for a while)
C: Kai Sotto (NBL Australia Role Player)
PF: AJ Edu (US NCAA DIV 1 Player) or Ange Kouame
Combo F: Justine Baltazar and Carl Tamayo
Swings: Parks, Perez, Thirdy, Malonzo(?)
Guards: Kiefer, Bolick
Something like this.
Bigs are ok. I know you are very high ofc for NZ Bigs. But I am confident Kai can compete with them especially against Team B Bigs of NZ. Same with AJ or Ange.
I think the Combo F can compete to. tamayo was the lone brightspot in that blowout game. I am confident Balti would have too.
It is the guards especially PG who I think was and is outmatched.
Webster kinda destroyed our Guards including kiefer.
As for Swings Dwight had a very bad game vs NZ. dont want to judge it by that 1 game. I am not sure if parks or Perez would have done better.
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Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View PostStudying Gilas Best Players in each position. And what level are they right now. (Players Level lang, set aside coaching and system for a while)
C: Kai Sotto (NBL Australia Role Player)
PF: AJ Edu (US NCAA DIV 1 Player) or Ange Kouame
Combo F: Justine Baltazar and Carl Tamayo
Swings: Parks, Perez, Thirdy, Malonzo(?)
Guards: Kiefer, Bolick
Something like this.
Bigs are ok. I know you are very high ofc for NZ Bigs. But I am confident Kai can compete with them especially against Team B Bigs of NZ. Same with AJ or Ange.
I think the Combo F can compete to. tamayo was the lone brightspot in that blowout game. I am confident Balti would have too.
It is the guards especially PG who I think was and is outmatched.
Webster kinda destroyed our Guards including kiefer.
As for Swings Dwight had a very bad game vs NZ. dont want to judge it by that 1 game. I am not sure if parks or Perez would have done better.
Everything but Thirdy,I will pick Dwight instead,he's a good complimentary player and insert combo.
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Originally posted by sajubeads View PostWhy pick.one when we can have both... Thirdy will be the Wiggins or Smart of the Team....Primary wing defender...
Well if the other guards are Bolick,Parks and Heading,where will you insert him then?Barring any injuries,I just picked Thirdy as a sub to any of them,he will make the final 16 but not the final 12.
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Originally posted by earldeboy View PostEven against Danny Seigle? Nah. That's a reach.
I can see some stiffness in the way Malonzo dribbles the ball in traffic.
Don't get me wrong bro, I like Jamie Malonzo. In fact prior to the news that he is FIBA eligible, I posted it here in this thread that if only he is FIBA eligible, he could be a valuable asset for Gilas.
Here is my post: https://www.interbasket.net/forums/s...79#post1493679 (That's post No. 4448)
* Take note, that post is dated June 20, 2022, while the news that Malonzo is FIBA eligible came sometime June 28, 2022."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Yes Malonzo to me is a valuable Gilas asset , it really allows us to play Malonzo together with either Tamayo and Baltazar without losing speed and size at the forward spot, and relieves Dwight from any forward duties to focus on playing both guard spots.
these are the guys i'm kind of confident can contribute at the WC
center - Kai, Kouame
forwards- malonzo , Tamayo, Batazar
Guards . Dwight , Kiefer , ParksNBTC- Team New Zealand - Camp David: vision "To provide a basketball Pathway for Filipino Kids in NZ while building men of character and leadership. I can do all things ...
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Originally posted by analyzed View PostYes Malonzo to me is a valuable Gilas asset , it really allows us to play Malonzo together with either Tamayo and Baltazar without losing speed and size at the forward spot, and relieves Dwight from any forward duties to focus on playing both guard spots.
these are the guys i'm kind of confident can contribute at the WC
center - Kai, Kouame
forwards- malonzo , Tamayo, Batazar
Guards . Dwight , Kiefer , ParksTo becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.
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If we had a player with the height, heft and offensive calibre of a Danny Seigle then our 2 and 3 spot would utterly be solved. Never seen a player as explosive as the Dynamite since he retired. He was the greatest offensive arsenal at his time even with the onslaught of the other Fil-ams including Asi Taulava, Erik Menk and Rudy Hatfield. Yes there are players who can score like him but not with his height and heft, a 6'7 who can dribble and score in a variety of ways.
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Originally posted by prince75 View PostIf we had a player with the height, heft and offensive calibre of a Danny Seigle then our 2 and 3 spot would utterly be solved. Never seen a player as explosive as the Dynamite since he retired. He was the greatest offensive arsenal at his time even with the onslaught of the other Fil-ams including Asi Taulava, Erik Menk and Rudy Hatfield. Yes there are players who can score like him but not with his height and heft, a 6'7 who can dribble and score in a variety of ways."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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NZ basically started with 3 Danny Siegle's vs Gilas last Thursday
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Ngatai - 6'6 foward
Delaney 6' 7 forward
Vodonavich 6' 7 forward
whatever that meant, it certainly had an effect on Gilas , especially when they started trapping on defense out in the perimeter ...
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