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  • High time we try the likes of Oftana and Tuffin—two way players with length that can do a bit of everything. 3 sub 6 feet guards should be a thing of the past.
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    • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
      High time we try the likes of Oftana and Tuffin—two way players with length that can do a bit of everything. 3 sub 6 feet guards should be a thing of the past.
      Agree. Get these guys in GILAS uniform ASAP to get them used to international ball. I'm afraid Oftana might pick up some bad habits while playing in the PBA. 3 bulinggits won't work if you don't have legit rim protectors on the team.

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      • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
        High time we try the likes of Oftana and Tuffin—two way players with length that can do a bit of everything. 3 sub 6 feet guards should be a thing of the past.
        Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
        Agree. Get these guys in GILAS uniform ASAP to get them used to international ball. I'm afraid Oftana might pick up some bad habits while playing in the PBA. 3 bulinggits won't work if you don't have legit rim protectors on the team.
        again, another small ball team beat Gilas to the core. it was the skills and physicality that beat Gilas, not the size. Length just became a factor because we have Kiefer (5'11), RJ (5'10) and SJ (5'10). We should have retained only one of them because against guards like Ili (6'1), Webster (6'2) and Britt (6'2), our guard trio will be no matched.
        Last edited by ja.he; 06-30-2022, 11:26 PM.
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        • Kai gilas needs you for the asia cup please be part of gilas..

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          • Originally posted by robert0326
            Yeah... Especially that no SL teams signs him until now... He should move on and be part of Gilas... He should conquer Asia first before realizing his dream again in NBA....
            Gilas and NBL!

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            • That loss to NZ has opened the door to the likelihood that Chot is coaching and fielding mostly PBA players in the WC.

              Bigs: Kai, Fajardo, Aguilar, Malonzo, Tamayo

              Wings: Clarkson, Dwight, Parks, Adams

              Guards: Kiefer, Bolick, Perez

              It's likely that from among Tab's roster, only Kai, Dwight, and Tamayo will get the call back.

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              • Originally posted by barok espinoza View Post
                That loss to NZ has opened the door to the likelihood that Chot is coaching and fielding mostly PBA players in the WC.

                Bigs: Kai, Fajardo, Aguilar, Malonzo, Tamayo

                Wings: Clarkson, Dwight, Parks, Adams

                Guards: Kiefer, Bolick, Perez

                It's likely that from among Tab's roster, only Kai, Dwight, and Tamayo will get the call back.
                This is short sighted. You need a defensive anchor. Kai can only play a few minutes of decent defense. JMF could not even stop Indonesia. Ange was the only guy stopping us from being humiliated by this much last qualifiers against a worse NZ team. This puts in perspective Tab's close Gilas game against NZ a day after a close game against France. That was I think NZ's A team, Adams never plays for them IRC. If there was a rest day in between we could've probably defeated their A team. This team now is a B team and the previous qualifiers was a C team?

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                • Originally posted by robert0326
                  Yeah... Especially that no SL teams signs him until now... He should move on and be part of Gilas... He should conquer Asia first before realizing his dream again in NBA....
                  When is the deadline for signing up SL players?

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                  • Yeshkel's analysis of the Korea tuneups: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl8u1CqBAQo

                    1. Doesn't like the quick offense. Though I think this was by design to offset the lack of defensive stoppers of this team.
                    2. Doesn't like Kiefer. Has bad PBA habits e.g. doesn't box out.
                    3. Doesn't like Lopez. He should shoot outside more. Inside open looks will be gone in the World cup.
                    4. Likes KQuiam's defense but needs outside shot

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                    • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                      This is short sighted. You need a defensive anchor. Kai can only play a few minutes of decent defense. JMF could not even stop Indonesia. Ange was the only guy stopping us from being humiliated by this much last qualifiers against a worse NZ team. This puts in perspective Tab's close Gilas game against NZ a day after a close game against France. That was I think NZ's A team, Adams never plays for them IRC. If there was a rest day in between we could've probably defeated their A team. This team now is a B team and the previous qualifiers was a C team?
                      you called it, but this is probably a close approximation of the lineup that we'll end up with if the SBP goes for a PBA-centric squad, chooses Clarkson over Ange, and designates Chot as hc.

                      ideally, of course, it should be tab's developmental team with upgrades in the guard slots. but with the recent development concerning eligible fil-fors, and this humiliating loss to NZ, and add to that the expected lackluster finish in this coming asia cup, we all know where we are heading to now.

                      in the matter of Clarkson over Ange, I'd rather they play together with one of them being considered as a local. But if that's not really possible, I'd choose Clarkson over Ange and try my luck with Edu first as the latter's replacement before I choose any of the PBA bigs.

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                      • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                        This is short sighted. You need a defensive anchor. Kai can only play a few minutes of decent defense. JMF could not even stop Indonesia. Ange was the only guy stopping us from being humiliated by this much last qualifiers against a worse NZ team. This puts in perspective Tab's close Gilas game against NZ a day after a close game against France. That was I think NZ's A team, Adams never plays for them IRC. If there was a rest day in between we could've probably defeated their A team. This team now is a B team and the previous qualifiers was a C team?
                        This is why I'm not 100% all in having Clarkson as a naturalized over Ange. I'd agree to that if we have the likes of Edu or if JC gets approved as a local. We badly need a defensive big against elite teams. Junemar is not it. I remember back in Asian games where we got destroyed by Zhou Qi and Ratcliffe back to back. The frontline of Cstand, Asi, Erram, Almazan, and Belga did not stand a chance. The output of the duo Clarkson and Pringle did not matter as we were basically giving away free points in the paint.

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                        • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                          This is short sighted. You need a defensive anchor. Kai can only play a few minutes of decent defense. JMF could not even stop Indonesia. Ange was the only guy stopping us from being humiliated by this much last qualifiers against a worse NZ team. This puts in perspective Tab's close Gilas game against NZ a day after a close game against France. That was I think NZ's A team, Adams never plays for them IRC. If there was a rest day in between we could've probably defeated their A team. This team now is a B team and the previous qualifiers was a C team?
                          Yeah, if we're gonna go with JC, we need good defensive anchors first among the locals.

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                          • This New Zealand team is like the Dominican Republic team on steroids. RJ and SJ shouldn't have been here, definitely should make space for Kai, Ange and Balti in the future. I still really want to see the Nenad team get much more prep time and chops just like Tab's team did with the OQT and King Abdullah stint. These players are eventually gonna enter pro leagues and I wanna see the same core in the future.

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                              • Originally posted by barok espinoza View Post
                                you called it, but this is probably a close approximation of the lineup that we'll end up with if the SBP goes for a PBA-centric squad, chooses Clarkson over Ange, and designates Chot as hc.

                                ideally, of course, it should be tab's developmental team with upgrades in the guard slots. but with the recent development concerning eligible fil-fors, and this humiliating loss to NZ, and add to that the expected lackluster finish in this coming asia cup, we all know where we are heading to now.

                                in the matter of Clarkson over Ange, I'd rather they play together with one of them being considered as a local. But if that's not really possible, I'd choose Clarkson over Ange and try my luck with Edu first as the latter's replacement before I choose any of the PBA bigs.

                                I'll choose AK over Clarkson,with Malonzo available,plus the original Tab team,with guard upgrade of Bolick,Parks and a strong healthy Aj,will be a very competitive team.

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