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  • Originally posted by robert0326
    If SMC was cooperative last 2015, We have a chance to play at 2016 Olympics... Junmar is better option than Asi, Japeth is better option than Thoss, Lassiter is better option than Intal... But anyway past is past... The reason why i can't take SMC teams until now....
    I dont understand why a supporting cast made up of way past their prime or third stringers: Thoss, Asi, Hontiveros, Intal would be good? SMC abandoned this team. Except for Ping who is untouchable.

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    • Originally posted by Rds View Post
      I dont understand why a supporting cast made up of way past their prime or third stringers: Thoss, Asi, Hontiveros, Intal would be good? SMC abandoned this team. Except for Ping who is untouchable.
      correct me if I'm wrong, ROS also hesitated to loan Lee and Chan to the 2015 Gilas team due to poaching issues (by TNT)

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      • Really despite the results in the 2016 OQT, we actually played one of the best basketball ever, and overachieved. It just didn't seem that way at the time as many had unrealistic expectations and thought we were better than we actually were also didn't realize the level of other national teams without NBA names were actually better than thought.

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        • Originally posted by robert0326
          Yeah... But their spots was already taken by Romeo and Abueva anyway... So their absence is only little effect... But not having Junmar, Japeth and Lassiter hurts more than Lee and Chan....
          True, Lassiter, Junmar, Japeth could have make a difference in 2015, even LA

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          • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
            Really despite the results in the 2016 OQT, we actually played one of the best basketball ever, and overachieved. It just didn't seem that way at the time as many had unrealistic expectations and thought we were better than we actually were also didn't realize the level of other national teams without NBA names were actually better than thought.
            Unfortunately, that was also our best team at the time. Everyone sent their best players.

            I hope we have a version of Gilas that exceeds that version.

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            • Originally posted by Rds View Post
              I dont understand why a supporting cast made up of way past their prime or third stringers: Thoss, Asi, Hontiveros, Intal would be good? SMC abandoned this team. Except for Ping who is untouchable.
              Well, I think the main rotation of that 2015 team was better than the main rotation of the 2019 team.

              A perimeter rotation of Castro, Terrence, Dondon, Abueva, MGR, and Intal wipes the floor with Kiefer, Lee, Pogoy, Barroca, Bolick, and Perez.

              The bigs might be closer. Yeah, 2015 had RDO and Ping, but also old Thoss and Asi. 2019 had June Mar and Japeth, as well as Troy and Almazan.

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              • If we can have all our Best Players.

                In 2023. I think we will have the best gilas rotation on Paper.

                (I assume JC as NP or A Swing NP)

                C: Kai, AJ(Healthy), Junmar

                PF: Tamayo, Baltazar

                SF: Dwight, Thirdy

                SG: Carkson, Parks (Perez if Rayray Declined)

                PG: Kiefer, Bolick

                Last spot is for a Shooter:

                Candidates: Heading, Tuffin, Oftana

                Reserved; Navarro, Lopez, Dave

                PS: Need to insert some pba players to be realistic

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                • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                  If we can have all our Best Players.

                  In 2023. I think we will have the best gilas rotation on Paper.

                  (I assume JC as NP or A Swing NP)

                  C: Kai, AJ(Healthy), Junmar

                  PF: Tamayo, Baltazar

                  SF: Dwight, Thirdy

                  SG: Carkson, Parks (Perez if Rayray Declined)

                  PG: Kiefer, Bolick

                  Last spot is for a Shooter:

                  Candidates: Heading, Tuffin, Oftana

                  Reserved; Navarro, Lopez, Dave

                  PS: Need to insert some pba players to be realistic
                  We'l be short on the wings, especially if Parks declines. If Parks does, Oftana and Navarro are absolute necessities.

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                  • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                    If we can have all our Best Players.

                    In 2023. I think we will have the best gilas rotation on Paper.

                    (I assume JC as NP or A Swing NP)

                    C: Kai, AJ(Healthy), Junmar

                    PF: Tamayo, Baltazar

                    SF: Dwight, Thirdy

                    SG: Carkson, Parks (Perez if Rayray Declined)

                    PG: Kiefer, Bolick

                    Last spot is for a Shooter:

                    Candidates: Heading, Tuffin, Oftana

                    Reserved; Navarro, Lopez, Dave

                    PS: Need to insert some pba players to be realistic

                    The SF position are too small,isn't Tamayo and Baltazar play the 3,whenever they have the whole team,with Kai playing 4,with the other 5 if not in foul trouble and Baltazar is the forward combo,reliever for 4 and 3.I rather have a AK at 5 and a healthy Aj as starting 4,the 2 position will be loaded with so many combo guards anyways.So they need another 3 who's a defensive specialist whenever needed,and hopefully with some offensive firepower.

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                    • Pwede rin.

                      But are you guys confident for Balti and Tamayo to be Full time SF now???

                      Do u think guys Balti and Tamayo are more capable of playing SF than Paras Right now?

                      PS: Ik @analyzed will disagree with this idea. Lmao.

                      But personally, I think Balti can.

                      I doubt Tamayo actually

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                      • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                        Pwede rin.

                        But are you guys confident for Balti and Tamayo to be Full time SF now???

                        Do u think guys Balti and Tamayo are more capable of playing SF than Paras Right now?

                        PS: Ik @analyzed will disagree with this idea. Lmao.

                        But personally, I think Balti can.

                        I doubt Tamayo actually
                        Tamayo isnt an sf, ibn knew that already.. euro 3(the mirza teletovic, CS type) maybe yun mikehrabak type but we know him to be tough
                        To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                        1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                        • Originally posted by reamily View Post
                          Tamayo isnt an sf, ibn knew that already.. euro 3(the mirza teletovic, CS type) maybe yun mikehrabak type but we know him to be tough
                          Yeah, Carl's a 4/5, but he has the size, strength, and toughness for that already. Plus, he's more versatile offensively than most fours, so OK na rin.

                          It's Balti that can play 3 for stretches.

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                            Yeah, Carl's a 4/5, but he has the size, strength, and toughness for that already. Plus, he's more versatile offensively than most fours, so OK na rin.

                            It's Balti that can play 3 for stretches.
                            Unlike carl baltazar is the one who is a real 3 like rosario..
                            To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                            1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                            • Originally posted by reamily View Post
                              Unlike carl baltazar is the one who is a real 3 like rosario..
                              Troy was a waste, man. He had athleticism, length, motor, and a bit of shooting. He was drafted at 23, he could have been much more than what he is now, especially on defense. Should have been Balti before Balti.

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                              • ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

                                Troy doesn't have the handles to play as a small forward. I think he also lacks the laterals to play such position. When it comes to ball handling, Tamayo is better than Troy.
                                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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