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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
    Just to veer away from the current discussion, I saw this tweet on wings in the NBA: https://twitter.com/BillyArgue/statu...m4oNYdcFN3MNKg

    "You should be stacking your roster with 6-7, 6-8 wings that can and want to play d and can shoot a bit. It's a switch and guard everyone league now."

    I think Gilas should be veering in that direction when it comes to 6'4"-6'6" players. Look for versatile, athletic, and/or long players that size, and (at least try to) develop them into wings. Having Navarro, Dwight, and Lopez is a good start. I hope we can get and develop more versatile players that size.
    That's what we've seen in our recent U-16 team, having 6-foot-5 to 6-foot-7 combo forwards (Caelum Harris, Basti Reyes, Alex Konov) (despite not having a good size center) & a 6-foot-4 natural wingman in Jaycob Bayla. Too bad that team was handled by an incompetent coach.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
      If I will form Gilas

      C: Kai (7'3), AJ ( 6'11)

      PF: Tamayo (6'8), Baltazar (6'7")

      SF: NP (Maybe JC or Harper), Oftana (6'5)

      SG: Dwight (6'5ish), Thirdy/Perez (6'2-6:3)

      PG: Kiefer (6'0?), Heading

      Something like that as rotation
      Heading is no point guard
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
        Heading is no point guard
        i agree. he is closer to jeff chan and larry fonacier.
        Attack
        defend
        Unite

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        • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
          Heading is no point guard
          Combo guard. Hehe.

          Or cge na nga Shooter SG.

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          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
            That's what we've seen in our recent U-16 team, having 6-foot-5 to 6-foot-7 combo forwards (Caelum Harris, Basti Reyes, Alex Konov) (despite not having a good size center) & a 6-foot-4 natural wingman in Jaycob Bayla. Too bad that team was handled by an incompetent coach.
            Having 6'4"-6'7" wings in the U16 is a start. I hope we can develop more 6'4"-6'7" wings like Caelum and Konov.

            On that note, I think Konov might be a better defender than Caelum. Looks tougher, e.

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            • @mathematician

              I won't consider Heading a PG or a combo guard unless I see him playing that rule in FIBA game & do a decent job with such rule.
              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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              • If Kouame, Nenad (head coach)and Kai are part of Gilas in Asia cup it's not unfeasible for them to win Gold

                The problem with this, is if a coach sees it is realistic,
                he woild want to be the head coach LOL

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                • John Paxson, BJ Armstrong, and Steve Kerr weren't playmaking PGs on the Bulls. However, they had decent playmakers in the other positions, like Scottie Pippen, Toni Kukoč, and even Michael Jordan.

                  For Heading to be a PG, we need a playmaker at at least one of the other positions.

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                  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                    Having 6'4"-6'7" wings in the U16 is a start. I hope we can develop more 6'4"-6'7" wings like Caelum and Konov.

                    On that note, I think Konov might be a better defender than Caelum. Looks tougher, e.
                    Do we have the personell though? As of now. These are our best non pba gilas Players (imo)
                    (Will exclude parks for now)

                    1. NP - Nba (or Former Nba) level Player (Seems like they are targeting some names )

                    2. Kai Sotto - NBL Australia Level Player

                    3. AJ Edu - US NCAA Div 1 level player

                    4. Dwight Ramos - B league level

                    5. Baltazar - B league level

                    6. Tamayo - B league level

                    7. Thirdy - B league level player

                    Then maybe the other 8 in a 15 man pool in WC will be from pba. Lol.

                    (Oh, IDK where to put Kiefer. Pba or Non Pba next year)

                    I like Heading. But I am not sure He will be selected for Gials over some pba plauers. Lol

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                    • Ang discriminatory natin kay heading he is a decent pg as if doing fancy passes and good looking pick and roll passes contributes t being a point guard masyadong nba mentality pa rin tingin natin on that position..as long as he is able to made good decision as being the smallest guy on the floor and ability to bring down the ball he is a already a 1..
                      To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                      1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                      • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                        If Kouame, Nenad (head coach)and Kai are part of Gilas in Asia cup it's not unfeasible for them to win Gold

                        The problem with this, is if a coach sees it is realistic,
                        he woild want to be the head coach LOL
                        Yeah, that's very true with an attention-hungry person like Choke Reyes.

                        Specially now that it is reported that Kai would play in the Asia Cup, you bet Choke would be more determined than ever to coach Gilas in that tournament.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                          Perkins was annoying in the draft , kept on saying I told you draft wings , wings , wings LoL
                          Well, tall, long, athletic, and/or versatile wings are more valuable now in the NBA, top commodity.

                          Gilas should be looking to have the same mindset.

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                            Well, tall, long, athletic, and/or versatile wings are more valuable now in the NBA, top commodity.

                            Gilas should be looking to have the same mindset.
                            How did the Bulls do in draft?
                            Spurs exceeded my expectations

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                            • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                              How did the Bulls do in draft?
                              Spurs exceeded my expectations
                              I said it in the 2022 NBA Draft thread, here:

                              Originally posted by IPC View Post
                              Well, the Bulls got 6'7" Dalen Terry. Good defender, does everything well but score, and has good physical tools, most notably a 7-foot wingspan.

                              He's going to a loaded guard rotation, though, so he might see time at 3. Having Lonzo, Zach, Caruso, Ayo, and Coby will see him have to challenge for playing time.

                              AKME taking talent and upside over need, again.
                              Draft grades for the Bulls are all over the place. From A-range to D. The C and D marks are for his fit questions for the Bulls. Terry's a guard, and he'll have a tough time breaking through the rotation. He's a project. Talent and potential pick.

                              The Bulls have good defensive players. Lonzo, Caruso, Ayo, and potentially Patrick Williams and Terry. Want to stack up on as many versatile defenders as possible.

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                              • IQ and court vision wise, imo RJ Abarrientos, Kiefer and Panopio might be our best options at point in that order. RJ is the best skills wise, if only he wasn't so small and a complete defensive liability, he could be the main pg but he's really too small. Imagine if we have a 6'5 guy with RJ/Kiefer's court vision, ballhandling and shot creating, that's an NBA material, projected tall players from u16 level should be trained that way. We just need to transfer RJ/Kiefer's personality traits, psychology in the game into the body of a Dwight Ramos or Lebron Lopez lol.

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