Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[dubidub]

Hybrid PBA/Non-PBA Roster ( 6:6 ratio)

Iskati - SMC
CJ - SMC
Japeth - SMC
JMF - SMC

Kiefer - SBP / MVP
Ramos - SBP / MVP
Oftana - MVP
Pogoy - MVP

Tamayo - Indie / UAAP
Baltazar - Indie / Delta Force

Kai - NBA (yes!)
JC - NBA


Aternates:
Bolick - SMC
Troy - MVP

honestly, this isn't so bad haha of course I'd take out Pogoy and elevate Bolick. we do need some shooters on this lineup tho. but then again, if JC is here, i don't expect others to be taking plenty of shots. lol

[juggler]

honestly, this isn't so bad haha of course I'd take out Pogoy and elevate Bolick. we do need some shooters on this lineup tho. but then again, if JC is here, i don't expect others to be taking plenty of shots. lol

This team could probably win a game or two because of Kai and Clarkson. A win for PBA if this happen, but a loss for the development of basketball in our country.

[JAMSKIE]

I think Oftana should be one of the players called up. This NLEX game, as well as his fine start to the PBA season, strengthens his case to be part of future Gilas lineups. He's evolving into a point-of-attack defender, and he really bothered LA and Pinto with his size and length. He could stay in front of both guards too.

Very much agree bro. The thing I like about Oftana is that he's still young. I think he's around 26 right now, hence he has significant room for improvement. But he needs to be tested in the Asian level & needs exposure to higher level competition to maximize his potential. Oftana is among the very few PBA players I want to include in the Gilas pool ASAP. Oftana, Kiefer, Bolick & CJ Perez are the only PBA players I think who can bolster the Gilas pool.

It doesn't make sense to me Gilas being reinforced by PBA players who are 30 yrs old & above. Hence, I don't like the idea of having Pogoy, Wright, Rosario, Japeth in the Gilas pool.

[judasmartel]

The PBA, without realizing it, is hellbent in embarrassing Philippine hoops.

Maybe, an embarassing WC 2023 finish will truly shake things in PH basketball.

Dead last in two WCs in a row on top of being dead last in the WC at home? Hmm, that works.

[judasmartel]

A full force choke lineup gets a** raped by Korea and Australia with no lube, can only win against a weaker Japanese team by less than 10, the only team that it can consistently beat is Chinese Taipei lol and also might be lucky against a c tier China team like back in 2017. I don't think any other pinoy coaches can do better than choke though, there is a reason even modernizing armies need foreign advisors and leaders. It is true that the players aren't the problem anymore with our new generation of bigs and talented kids, the problem is how comfortable the retards in power are with using spears and village tactics when the battlefield already has tanks and airplanes. It's really a cultural problem that extends beyond sports, pinoy brand of things just stop evolving past a certain limit and will get left in the dust.

Hmm, maybe Ayo or Monteverde? Especially since the latter successfully adapted to Tab's tactics recently.

Heck, I don't even think a full-force team coached by Chot would beat Chinese Taipei once their rebuild is done.

What the hell is wrong with the dinosaurs on the top of PH basketball? Even the VERY patriotic and nationalistic East Asian teams like Japan and South Korea have foreign players and coaches.

It's now clear to me that the people at the top of the organization do not care about winning, they only care about themselves and their egos.

[judasmartel]

Wait til we lose to India....

Actually, let's wait until we're dead last in SEA.

[judasmartel]

Do you guys think we'll get another lack of quality comment from a foreign coach this coming FIBA CUP hehehe. Just by watching a PBA game anybody can realized that we really lack quality lmao!

Wait until a foreign coach comments that Gilas is not a real team.

Wow, I have never felt so mad about the men's basketball NT in a long time. Perhaps it's time to cheer for our other NTs especially the women's basketball and soccer teams.

[judasmartel]

call me dumb or naive but i kinda want to see how cone would fare nowadays with the NT provided he has ample preparation time.

of course i'd still prefer nenad/tab but amongst "locals", i'd be interested to see how cone would fare.

He had ample preparation in 1998. The Centennial Team won only one game against US NCAA college teams during their Midwest tour. The only things they were good at during that tour were getting rekt by college kids on the court and bullying college kids Fight Club style off the court. They could only muster a bronze medal in the Asian Games, almost losing to Kazakhstan, even. They aimed for China but got demolished by our current Grim Reaper in South Korea.

Golden Bronze, my foot. That should say it all.

[Rodbi]

I think Oftana should be one of the players called up. This NLEX game, as well as his fine start to the PBA season, strengthens his case to be part of future Gilas lineups. He's evolving into a point-of-attack defender, and he really bothered LA and Pinto with his size and length. He could stay in front of both guards too.

Gotta love Oftana's game right now. He's becoming more and more like an NT-level combo forward that a CCR-led Gilas desperately needs right now. As it looks like right now, i think he could easily dislodge the likes of Pogoy and Troy in any Gilas iteration spearheaded by any other local coach outside CCR. If I just started watching a PBA game yesterday, I would have thought that the kid is already a steady veteran, well, save for some lapses any second-year pro could make during BGSM's late 3rd/early 4th quarter storm.

[barok espinoza]

Are there no serious efforts on the part of the SBP to get Panopio, Edu, Parks, and Heading to play for the flag again? We're supposed to assemble the best final 12 for the WC and part of that process is inviting in the fil-ballers playing abroad and mixing them up with the Gilas core to see what works.

PBA players like Oftana and Aguilar should only be considered if the above-mentioned players decline or are unavailable. Panopio is a 43% three point shooter in the US-NCAA which is undeniably 100 parsecs better than the PBA. In contrast, PBA's Oftana is atrocious from the arc with a horrifyingly lamentable 24% stat this conference and he's not even playing against international-sized players.

I'm not saying that we should automatically give that one spot to Dalph, or that he's better than Oftana who plays a different role on the court. But it's crazy if we don't even invite him.

[C2Hamm]

Are there no serious efforts on the part of the SBP to get Panopio, Edu, Parks, and Heading to play for the flag again? We're supposed to assemble the best final 12 for the WC and part of that process is inviting in the fil-ballers playing abroad and mixing them up with the Gilas core to see what works.

PBA players like Oftana and Aguilar should only be considered if the above-mentioned players decline or are unavailable. Panopio is a 43% three point shooter in the US-NCAA which is undeniably 100 parsecs better than the PBA. In contrast, PBA's Oftana is atrocious from the arc with a horrifyingly lamentable 24% stat this conference and he's not even playing against international-sized players.

I'm not saying that we should automatically give that one spot to Dalph, or that he's better than Oftana who plays a different role on the court. But it's crazy if we don't even invite him.

ask them to get drafted in the PBA. that would solve a lot of things for them in terms of Gilas

[barok espinoza]

ask them to get drafted in the PBA. that would solve a lot of things for them in terms of Gilas

You know the PBA is a cesspool when the best player we can get from them only shoots 24% from the arc.

[yogaflame]

Gilas news is so toxics this days.It is so sad what happened to Gilas victimize by so much nepotism, politics, false nationalism, backward minded, and selfishness. Got to avoid Gilas news for now. Let us just pray that a good news will come out one of these days. Bye for now on Gilas and SBP news.

[CoJ]

A full force choke lineup gets a** raped by Korea and Australia with no lube, can only win against a weaker Japanese team by less than 10, the only team that it can consistently beat is Chinese Taipei lol and also might be lucky against a c tier China team like back in 2017. I don't think any other pinoy coaches can do better than choke though, there is a reason even modernizing armies need foreign advisors and leaders. It is true that the players aren't the problem anymore with our new generation of bigs and talented kids, the problem is how comfortable the retards in power are with using spears and village tactics when the battlefield already has tanks and airplanes. It's really a cultural problem that extends beyond sports, pinoy brand of things just stop evolving past a certain limit and will get left in the dust.

Gilas game shouldnt be shown in live television due to pornographic content (r**e, brutal sex etc)

[C2Hamm]

Hmm, maybe Ayo or Monteverde? Especially since the latter successfully adapted to Tab's tactics recently.

although I prefer these 2 over PBA coaches, they need more exposure to international games. thats the reason why great coaches are great, through experience. i have almost lost hope with Gilas going to 2023. sana, they just keep Monteverde as an asst and probably get Ayo as an asst. as well till next year. after which, let them handle the youth and whoever is pabida can get the senior Gilas helm if that is really what they want. atleast these 2 coaches can get their feet wet and prep them for hopefully better showing if they are given a chance in the future.