Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[Rds]

Wouldnt be surprised if AJ Raval, BGSM's current muse, will be Long Hair's next side chick. To be fair, young Alfrancis is good looking

I think he is a good people person. He was an underwhelming coach. But I guess he maximized his other skills in his current role.

[Rds]

Ball handling has been on of Tamayo's upside. I mean his handles is exceptional for a big man. Such upside Tamayo has exhibited as far back as 4 years ago when he played for the Gilas cadets in the 2018 Fil-oil Flying V Preseason Cup. I remember Tamayo holding his own against the country's top collegiate players. I think he was only 17 at that time.

When I saw Tamayo's good ball handling & some shooting in that tournament, I thought to myself this kid is going somewhere. Sa murang edad na 17 eh kaya na nyang makipagsabayan sa mga magagaling na college players in which some of whom were 5 to 6 years older than him.

You cant underestimate exposure at a young age. Carl could have focused on post plays knowing he will be among the biggest guys locally but playing internationally might have encouraged him to develop his faceup game.

[CoJ]

I think he is a good people person. He was an underwhelming coach. But I guess he maximized his other skills in his current role.

True, as a coach he underachieved despite having a loaded Tanduay team in the late 90s-early 2000s, up to this day still have no idea how Alfrancis was able to climb his way on top of the SMC food chain. He gets things done despite being cunning/manipulative. He's like the local eric bischoff of vince mcmahon

[JAMSKIE]

Guys, if for instance Jaime Malonzo happens to be a FIBA eligible Pinoy player, how serviceable do U think he is for Gilas? He struggled in his first few games with Northport last year but has been doing well since then. He could be a perfect combo forward for Gilas. I think offensively, he's better than either a prime Kelly Williams or Gabe Norwood, although defensively Norwood & Kelly are better than Malonzo.

[mathematicianrcg]

Thats how shallow our bigs pool we still salivate japeth blocks shots and not counting how many inside points he will allow because he cant defend bigs outside weakside D hahhaa

Hahaha.

Kai and AJ (Hopefully healthy) should be our Main Bigs. Idc if they will be 21 and 23 yrs old only next year.

Tamayo and Baltazar should be the Main forwards. Even if they will be only 22 and 26 yrs old respectively next year

[IPC]

I'm iffy on SMC heading SBP, though.

Although they have developed Fran Yu, Jio Jalalon, Arvin Tolentino, and Aris Dionisio, can they translate that development to FIBA? Because, the way I see it, they have developed players for PBA, and not necessarily for FIBA.

Plus, with Chua around, are these guys willing to take advice from a Tab-caliber foreign coach, especially with regards to tactics and development?

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I have no trust on SMC as well.

The SMC in the 80's, 90's & early 2000's is very different from the current SMC bunch of guys.

Despite of some blunders here & there, I still believe MVP group could do a better job than SMC.

Yeah. SMC under Danding was more open. And heck, even when Eala was with them. Hired Ron Jacobs and Rajko Toroman. But well, shit happened.

I agree... Remember Chua is one of the main people at BCAP that oppose foreign coaches, And Chua doesn't know how to transact with FIBA people... Can't mess with them... Can he appeal ineligible players for a exemption? Can he sacrifice his teams for FIBA tournaments? Can he open some changes at SBP? That is a question mark.... Even SBP some flows, they are better than BAP before... with BAP, we don't have a real team in womens division, We can't consistently bring youth teams in the past... Only problem on SBP is they allowed PBA to control SBP numerous times... Remember a good basketball program starts with a better/organize basketball leagues... PBA is a mess, so SBP affected on that PBA mess!!!!

So SMC manages UST basketball now. If UST manages to have a good development program under them, close to or exceeding the quality of Ateneo's program, capable of producing players that are fit for international games, talent-wise and position-wise, and has a coach with an offensive system capable of breaking Ateneo's defense or a defense capable of stopping Ateneo, then I might be more open to the possibility of SMC managing the NT program.

For now, I'm still iffy, and I still have my misgivings.

[Rds]

So SMC manages UST basketball now. If UST manages to have a good development program under them, close to or exceeding the quality of Ateneo's program, capable of producing players that are fit for international games, talent-wise and position-wise, and has a coach with an offensive system capable of breaking Ateneo's defense or a defense capable of stopping Ateneo, then I might be more open to the possibility of SMC managing the NT program.

For now, I'm still iffy, and I still have my misgivings.

SMC is not really known for developing players. They have the money to get any player they want. Yes, Magnolia has developed Aries and maybe dela Rosa but it is the exception. Chua has a chance to prove that he can develop players and teams and not just manipulate them using SMCs clout in the PBA. The sagip kapatid and sagip ng farm team has never been so obvious under his time. Even SMBs dominance was peppered with biased calls. You even have some former players curiously playing bad in crucial times making SMC teams, particularly SMB, win.

[ARMIR]

Wouldnt be surprised if AJ Raval, BGSM's current muse, will be Long Hair's next side chick. To be fair, young Alfrancis is good looking

Then she better have a KY Jelly endorsement,and a soft chair to sit on during games.She probably see alot of "No Holes Barred" celebration every championship.

[IPC]

Just asking why its ok if Miami Heat does this strategy of letting teams hit 3pt than attack the basket. And still be called defensive team and Spo as defensive coach.

actually, i don't consider as a wise move, especially if you are against a good three-point team like the Golden State Warriors.

do this to Korea, Australia, and New Zealand, Gilas is lucky if they lose by 20 points.

We actually lost to SoKor when we left their shooters too open. When we got up into them, it's already too late. They already got into rhythm.

[carmelo7]

Guys, if for instance Jaime Malonzo happens to be a FIBA eligible Pinoy player, how serviceable do U think he is for Gilas? He struggled in his first few games with Northport last year but has been doing well since then. He could be a perfect combo forward for Gilas. I think offensively, he's better than either a prime Kelly Williams or Gabe Norwood, although defensively Norwood & Kelly are better than Malonzo.

Malonzo,Lucero,Koon,M.Philipps..if we could get these 4 as FIBA eligible, we can forget that we lose out on Kobe Paras & Parks as Gilas mainstays. These 4 with Kai,AJ,Dwight,Lopez&Heading, we should be set w/ this core for the next 10-12 years

[ja.he]

We actually lost to SoKor when we left their shooters too open. When we got up into them, it's already too late. They already got into rhythm.

i don't know but i stopped arguing things here just for the sake of argument. i saw with my two eyes how Korea beat Gilas with a barrage of three pointers. i don't see any justification why would a Gilas player leave a Korean shooter from beyond the arc when they can possibly hit 40%-50% from downtown.

[IPC]

i don't know but i stopped arguing things here just for the sake of argument. i saw with my two eyes how Korea beat Gilas with a barrage of three pointers. i don't see any justification why would a Gilas player leave a Korean shooter from beyond the arc when they can possibly hit 40%-50% from downtown.

SoKor actually shot 66% from 3 against us in 2017. Gabe- Abueva, and Japeth were our only competent defenders.

[IPC]

SMC is not really known for developing players. They have the money to get any player they want. Yes, Magnolia has developed Aries and maybe dela Rosa but it is the exception. Chua has a chance to prove that he can develop players and teams and not just manipulate them using SMCs clout in the PBA. The sagip kapatid and sagip ng farm team has never been so obvious under his time. Even SMBs dominance was peppered with biased calls. You even have some former players curiously playing bad in crucial times making SMC teams, particularly SMB, win.

Boss Al have to rely on recruitment for UST. If he can recruit and/or develop a FIBA-style team in terms of players and coaches, there you go, probably a threat to Tab.

If UST can develop FIBA-quality players and good coaches that can do it internationally, then OK. At least we're advancing.

[Stevy]

Tamayo and Abarrientos make Gilas comeback in tune up games vs. Korea

[IPC]

Hopefully they learned a lot and make adjustments.
I'm not really expecting much from Junior. It's better to set your expectations low these days.

I guess this applies to the senior team as well for the most part, and given the direction that we're headed.