Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[JAMSKIE]

As if were surprised, Chot also didnt use Lebron lopez in the "tougher games" but was unleashed in games that we supposed to win, might be a change of approach is needed chot as you have a magic hugot in them in crucial games

That is why it is very significant for Gilas to participate in less important international tournaments like the Jones Cup, King Abdullah Cup, Dubai Invitationals, etc. Ito yung mga tournaments where the Gilas coach can give a purely developmental player like Francis Lopez (current) & Kobe Paras (some 5 years ago) ample playing time in which Gilas can somewhat afford to risk at the expense of winnability. Its different kasi if Gilas plays in the window qualifiers or FIBA tournament proper like Asia Cup & World Cup as the coach would have a "win now, forget about player development" mentality.

[IPC]

Between Oftana & Will Navarro, the former is the better offensive player as of now, but I think the latter is the better defender & rebounder. Plus one advantage Navarro has over Oftana is Navarro's familiarity with Tab's system, but now that its Choke Reyes calling the shots for Gilas, such familiarity of navarro with coach tab's system would be immaterial.

And Chot prefers offensive players, mainly shot creators, even at the cost of defense. Navarro's use on offense is just moving the ball around and grabbing offensive rebounds, so Chot would put him aside for a better shot creator at 3, like Dwight, Thirdy, and Wright, never mind the fact that Thirdy's undersized at 3, and Wright is a defensive liability.

[IPC]

That is why it is very significant for Gilas to participate in less important international tournaments like the Jones Cup, King Abdullah Cup, Dubai Invitationals, etc. Ito yung mga tournaments where the Gilas coach can give a purely developmental player like Francis Lopez (current) & Kobe Paras (some 5 years ago) ample playing time in which Gilas can somewhat afford to risk at the expense of winnability. Its different kasi if Gilas plays in the window qualifiers or FIBA tournament proper like Asia Cup & World Cup as the coach would have a "win now, forget about player development" mentality.

King's Cup was in August, Jones Cup is in July, and Dubai Invitationals are in February. Jones Cup and Dubai tournaments do not conflict with the UAAP and NCAA seasons, so we can send 19-22-year-old players. If possible, maybe even 17-18-year-old high school prospects.

I hope a foreigner like Tab or Nenad is coaching them, though. It would help them get acclimated to playing defense at an international level, since both coaches are defensive-minded.

[JAMSKIE]

King's Cup was in August, Jones Cup is in July, and Dubai Invitationals are in February. Jones Cup and Dubai tournaments do not conflict with the UAAP and NCAA seasons, so we can send 19-22-year-old players. If possible, maybe even 17-18-year-old high school prospects.

I hope a foreigner like Tab or Nenad is coaching them, though. It would help them get acclimated to playing defense at an international level, since both coaches are defensive-minded.

I hope our good people at SBP are aware of this & will have the initiative to make a Gilas team composed of B-league players & college players play for those tournaments. Dapat kasi there are definite plans for those tournaments several months prior, hindi yung 1 month to go nalang yung tournament eh saka pa lang magpa plano.

[live_evil]

I hope our good people at SBP are aware of this & will have the initiative to make a Gilas team composed of B-league players & college players play for those tournaments. Dapat kasi there are definite plans for those tournaments several months prior, hindi yung 1 month to go nalang yung tournament eh saka pa lang magpa plano.

SBP has three plans: Pogoy, Rosario, and Montalbo

[JAMSKIE]

SBP has three plans: Pogoy, Rosario, and Montalbo

Those are Apocalyptic plans

[CoJ]

SBP has three plans: Pogoy, Rosario, and Montalbo

my god, not another gilas with rosario with pinoy campazzo and bogdanovic, otherwise known as the brick brothers. They probably got incriminating videos of chot that's why they are included always in Gilas. (or they are the gilas equivalent of the semerad twins)

[IPC]

Here's the thing with Abueva, though. He's unique. He has a combination of speed, jumping ability, strength, and motor, which not many 6'1"-6'2" players have.

He and Thirdy are the only 6'2" guys in recent memory that are successful at defending from the 3 position internationally. At least from what I've seen. The rest I've seen are Gabe, Dwight, Navarro, and probably MGR, all 6'4" and above. You're more likely to find good wing defenders from the latter taller group, although their length and defensive instincts also helped.

Some on Navarro: https://twitter.com/_alba__/status/1...kdLkvKfHA&s=19

He has the height, length, and quickness to close out on shooters, keeping them to a low percentage.

Height won't play the biggest factor, but you're likely to find good length with taller players.

[mangangalakal]

Cryptic article on the SBP website about a cryptic meeting between RSA & MVP:

http://sbp.ph/articles/mvp-rsa-hold-historic-meeting

The full text of the article:
MVP, RSA hold historic meeting
Published on June 13, 2022



Corporate big guns Ramon S. Ang, President and CEO of San Miguel Corporation, and Manuel V. Pangilinan, Chairman and President of Metro Pacific Investments Corporation, shake hands following a historic closed-door meeting at the SMC office in Mandaluyong. A number of issues, both in business and sports, were discussed. Also present were SMC Sports Director Alfrancis Chua, Al Panlilio, President and CEO of PLDT and Smart Communications, and former Philippine Olympic Committee President and current PBA Chairman Ricky Vargas.

[joemarksforty]

Cryptic article on the SBP website about a cryptic meeting between RSA & MVP:

http://sbp.ph/articles/mvp-rsa-hold-historic-meeting

The full text of the article:
MVP, RSA hold historic meeting
Published on June 13, 2022



Corporate big guns Ramon S. Ang, President and CEO of San Miguel Corporation, and Manuel V. Pangilinan, Chairman and President of Metro Pacific Investments Corporation, shake hands following a historic closed-door meeting at the SMC office in Mandaluyong. A number of issues, both in business and sports, were discussed. Also present were SMC Sports Director Alfrancis Chua, Al Panlilio, President and CEO of PLDT and Smart Communications, and former Philippine Olympic Committee President and current PBA Chairman Ricky Vargas.

Im feeling odd about this if its happen early maybe around 5years ago seems logical and everybody would be happy but now i see all evil especially with that two Al's and tatang Vargas haha

[IPC]

Im feeling odd about this if its happen early maybe around 5years ago seems logical and everybody would be happy but now i see all evil especially with that two Al's and tatang Vargas haha

I also have a bit of a bad feeling about this. I feel it might be a plan to hijack Gilas going into the 2023 WC. And under Chot Reyes as the coach, no less.

[Rds]

Man. Are SMC and MVP forming their own league?

[magic_chiongson]

Some on Navarro: https://twitter.com/_alba__/status/1...kdLkvKfHA&s=19

He has the height, length, and quickness to close out on shooters, keeping them to a low percentage.

Height won't play the biggest factor, but you're likely to find good length with taller players.

navarro really is going to be this generation's gabe norwood.

[magic_chiongson]

Man. Are SMC and MVP forming their own league?

it's called the PBA. they're prolly meeting on how to deal with the player exodus and not for the national team

[mangangalakal]

I also have a bit of a bad feeling about this. I feel it might be a plan to hijack Gilas going into the 2023 WC. And under Chot Reyes as the coach, no less.

MVP leaving his post before the WC would be illogical considering the time and money he put into the hosting, but reality often defies logic