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  • just my opinion, Tab's preference is to stay as Ateneo coach and report to Ateneo stakeholders (whoever that may be) rather than report to the toxic SBP federation and whoever the stakeholders control the federation. Tab is of retiring age he has nothing to prove and values other things in life (as corny as it may sound he likes teaching basketball to kids and being involved in their lives as a person. independent of having to deal with all the political crap...

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    • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
      just my opinion, Tab's preference is to stay as Ateneo coach and report to Ateneo stakeholders (whoever that may be) rather than report to the toxic SBP federation and whoever the stakeholders control the federation. Tab is of retiring age he has nothing to prove and values other things in life (as corny as it may sound he likes teaching basketball to kids and being involved in their lives as a person. independent of having to deal with all the political crap...
      Well he has something to prove... in the UAAP

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      • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
        just my opinion, Tab's preference is to stay as Ateneo coach and report to Ateneo stakeholders (whoever that may be) rather than report to the toxic SBP federation and whoever the stakeholders control the federation. Tab is of retiring age he has nothing to prove and values other things in life (as corny as it may sound he likes teaching basketball to kids and being involved in their lives as a person. independent of having to deal with all the political crap...
        Sir Dave, I think it’s really tantamount that CTB must be involve in our U Program if the purpose is to be with kids, being a senior citizen he already mentioned that too much travelling doesn’t entice him that much nowadays because his old bones and joints are aching here and there especially during long travels and that’s a reality. Now offering him a front office job as a Program Director( I hope permanently) is a good move on the part of SBP to save faces in the eyes of the public considering so many blunders one after the other we’ve seen so far from their corporate minded guys who moonlighting as a basketball officials, which we know doesn’t really click the way it should be( it’s always the principle of the tubig at langis thing). Besides coach Tab really loves it here not only because basketball is a like a staple food on the table but also the weather which is a good place to retire he and his wife’s old bodies..Whew I remember the late Ron Jacobs who had the same purpose as well to choose this country as his last stopover.

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        • The thing though with the youth program is it's a temporary thing for like 1 month prep before a tournament, rather than a honest to goodness full time academy environment like Ateneo .
          Tab cannot teach and impart life long skills on short term basis .

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          • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
            The thing though with the youth program is it's a temporary thing for like 1 month prep before a tournament, rather than a honest to goodness full time academy environment like Ateneo .
            Tab cannot teach and impart life long skills on short term basis .
            24 year olds shouldnt really be academy though.

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            • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
              24 year olds shouldnt really be academy though.
              well honestly the pathway looks like Mason Amos coming in as a teenager , then spending like 5 years in Ateneo, then doing a Raffy Verano ( play in B- league etc) .


              That's not bad career pathway, to impart teaching to.. ending up in getting an education and paid professionally. and along the lines produce some capable national team players

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              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                well honestly the pathway looks like Mason Amos coming in as a teenager , then spending like 5 years in Ateneo, then doing a Raffy Verano ( play in B- league etc) .


                That's not bad career pathway, to impart teaching to.. ending up in getting an education and paid professionally. and along the lines produce some capable national team players
                Someone like Mason or other Fil Fors are different since theyve come from a different academy setup. If they end up in the Philippines, thats where there talent led them. Its not easy to play here as many fil fors can attest to. But to be honest, were are sorely lacking in an actual academy setup.

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                  And to me "academy" set-up should be the focus for development. if it means drawing the dwights . Amos and even Philips to the Philippines and possbily even BG , then so be it.

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                  • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
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                    And to me "academy" set-up should be the focus for development. if it means drawing the dwights . Amos and even Philips to the Philippines and possbily even BG , then so be it.
                    I want an academy setup that will actually produce NBA level talent. What we have right now has never done that. Ateneo and La Salle can and have produced talent for the national team but to truly compete we need more than the UAAP.

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                    • Please use English language in your Post or Translate your post in English Thank you
                      Last edited by Silent Killer; 06-03-2022, 04:35 AM.
                      To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                      1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                      • SBP being the country's basketball body doesn't have that so called academy considering that grass root development are mandatory on all sports association, we really need a hardcore minded basketball guy to run the show rather than a corporate dudes moonlighting as a basketball officials.

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                        • I think an Academy to complex an endeavour. Which country can we pattern from? I would like us to look at Japan. They dont have many tall players but they have produced NBA players and other international leaguers. I heard it is their HS basketball program. Does somebody know what their program is?

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                          • I'm involved in running an academy in Wellington (this is where Steven Adams developed). The model is quite similar to how Japan does it , where every summer we bring the too player to the US for training and exposure, also the top US college coaches visit the academy to look at a pipeline.
                            Essentially it's geared for the prospects to make Div 1 colleges (we've sent around 50 high school players to US colleges).
                            I say it's similar to Japan cause their top prospects while in high school like Watanabe, Rui are all exposed to US colleges and while in high school locally they're are trained with that in mind. So regardless if they're the tallest in their high school they play the perimeter, even if it may result in their team losing.
                            As an example Gold and Tafaro from our academy who are 6'10 play the perimeter but their high school teams lose to our undersize high School team LOL

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                            • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                              I'm involved in running an academy in Wellington (this is where Steven Adams developed). The model is quite similar to how Japan does it , where every summer we bring the too player to the US for training and exposure, also the top US college coaches visit the academy to look at a pipeline.
                              Essentially it's geared for the prospects to make Div 1 colleges (we've sent around 50 high school players to US colleges).
                              I say it's similar to Japan cause their top prospects while in high school like Watanabe, Rui are all exposed to US colleges and while in high school locally they're are trained with that in mind. So regardless if they're the tallest in their high school they play the perimeter, even if it may result in their team losing.
                              As an example Gold and Tafaro from our academy who are 6'10 play the perimeter but their high school teams lose to our undersize high School team LOL
                              This I think is worth emulating. SBP however has to intervene in the HS level. Identify HS players who have the height and mobility to be international players. Train them to be perimeter players. In summer expose them to US competition. Then hopefully they can go to US college. We havent had a home grown go to US college. Its high time we did.

                              The problem here is what incentive to give the schools to take in such a prospect. As a gangly perimeter player he wont help the HS. He wont even go to their college. Maybe the SBP gives a tuition fee fund for the kid while he is in the program to pay for thr kids tuition fee while he is in said school.

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                              • Rui never had a good outside shot during high school. He develop that in Gonzaga. I watch his high school games he played center and mostly inside plays.

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