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  • Originally posted by Marsh Mello View Post
    Is it true that Zav Lucero is one and done only for UP?
    No, he's two-and-through. He has one more UAAP season.

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    • As soon as this SEA Games basketball competition is over, coach Chot should start the training/practices of the Gilas pool bound for the FIBA Asia Cup & the 3rd window qualifiers for the 2023 FIBA WC.

      College players like Tamayo, Baltazar, RJ Abarrientos, Dave Ildefonso, Belangel, as well as Jordan Heading who had a stint in the Taiwanese pro league, need to learn coach Chot's system. On the other hand, Kouame, Dwight Ramos, Thirdy, Navarro, Go, who had already played under coach Chot recently would still need to assimilate themselves further with coach Chot's system.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
        As soon as this SEA Games basketball competition is over, coach Chot should start the training/practices of the Gilas pool bound for the FIBA Asia Cup & the 3rd window qualifiers for the 2023 FIBA WC.

        College players like Tamayo, Baltazar, RJ Abarrientos, Dave Ildefonso, Belangel, as well as Jordan Heading who had a stint in the Taiwanese pro league, need to learn coach Chot's system. On the other hand, Kouame, Dwight Ramos, Thirdy, Navarro, Go, who had already played under coach Chot recently would still need to assimilate themselves further with coach Chot's system.
        Yes. Agreed.

        And TNT should appoint Coach Chot replacement for meanwhile.

        So Coach Chot can focus on the national team

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        • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
          As soon as this SEA Games basketball competition is over, coach Chot should start the training/practices of the Gilas pool bound for the FIBA Asia Cup & the 3rd window qualifiers for the 2023 FIBA WC.

          College players like Tamayo, Baltazar, RJ Abarrientos, Dave Ildefonso, Belangel, as well as Jordan Heading who had a stint in the Taiwanese pro league, need to learn coach Chot's system. On the other hand, Kouame, Dwight Ramos, Thirdy, Navarro, Go, who had already played under coach Chot recently would still need to assimilate themselves further with coach Chot's system.
          Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
          Yes. Agreed.

          And TNT should appoint Coach Chot replacement for meanwhile.

          So Coach Chot can focus on the national team
          And Gilas should get a defensive coordinator. The defense has been goddamn ugly this SEA Games. Get Tab, Chito Victolero, or even Goldwin Monteverde or Norman Black for the team this SEA Games. At least we'd have proper defenders.

          Of course, having Balti, Navarro, Lopez, Dwight, and Ange for the Asia Cup will greatly help our defense. Again, we should establish defense as our identity.

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          • Defense isn't really complex. You can search the internet for guides. What matters most is we execute.
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            Offense
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            Shooting
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            Dribbling
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            • Originally posted by greenarcher View Post
              Let Chito Victolero coach the NT.
              Originally posted by spidey102279
              I will go with Goldwin
              Originally posted by IPC View Post
              Either would be a better coach for Gilas defensively. Both coaches have teams that are disciplined on defense, and Goldwin turns on the pressure only when there is a need, he times his pressures (hard hedges, blitzes, and presses).

              And both don't mind using taller but not-so-skilled players at 3. Chito used Rome dela Rosa and Aris Dionisio at 3, even if both can't create their own shot. Goldwin uses Spencer and even 6'6" Lucero at 3. I'm sure both coaches wouldn't mind using Navarro, Lebron, and even Balti at the 3 spot.
              Both the coaches here should be considered, at least in the coaching staff. Both can coach defense, and both can develop players.

              A coaching staff of Tab, Goldwin, Ayo, Charles Tiu, and Chito Victolero would be a dream for Gilas.

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              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                As soon as this SEA Games basketball competition is over, coach Chot should start the training/practices of the Gilas pool bound for the FIBA Asia Cup & the 3rd window qualifiers for the 2023 FIBA WC.

                College players like Tamayo, Baltazar, RJ Abarrientos, Dave Ildefonso, Belangel, as well as Jordan Heading who had a stint in the Taiwanese pro league, need to learn coach Chot's system. On the other hand, Kouame, Dwight Ramos, Thirdy, Navarro, Go, who had already played under coach Chot recently would still need to assimilate themselves further with coach Chot's system.
                Chot's offense in the SEA Games is actually similar to Tab's offense. Only difference is, Tab's team executed better.

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                • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                  Chot's offense in the SEA Games is actually similar to Tab's offense. Only difference is, Tab's team executed better.
                  Chot still sucks when attacking the zone. Just sayin'.

                  The strategy to beat any Chot-led team: zone defence.

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                  • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
                    Chot still sucks when attacking the zone. Just sayin'.

                    The strategy to beat any Chot-led team: zone defence.
                    Good luck against SoKor. They killed Chot's team (without defensive coordinators) with zone, and a 60+ percent clip from 3. Two kryptonites against a Chot-led team.

                    At least Chot's kinda making an effort to adjust offensively. Need a better defense.
                    Last edited by IPC; 05-21-2022, 06:19 AM.

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                    • Can we just vote our Gilas 12? I was a regular here poster Johnny A. I will tally the votes so we can come up with our unanimous Gilas 12.

                      Tier 1 (Pick 6 irreplaceable players) - 10 points
                      1. Dwight Ramos
                      2. Ange Kouame
                      3. Kai Sotto
                      4. Justine Baltazar
                      5. RJ Abarrientos
                      6. Jordan Heading

                      Tier 2 (Pick 6 replaceable players) - 5 points
                      7. Thirdy Ravena
                      8. Carl Tamayo
                      9. Kobe Paras
                      10. Dave Ildefonso
                      11. Clint Escamis
                      12. William Navarro

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                      • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                        Chot's offense in the SEA Games is actually similar to Tab's offense. Only difference is, Tab's team executed better.
                        Because of repetition and length of time for players to master it. If we stay with Chot then SBP better start laying the foundation for 2023. Even Tab's system won't work if we insert him as late for WC 2023

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                        • Originally posted by Goose View Post
                          Can we just vote our Gilas 12? I was a regular here poster Johnny A. I will tally the votes so we can come up with our unanimous Gilas 12.

                          Tier 1 (Pick 6 irreplaceable players) - 10 points
                          1. Dwight Ramos
                          2. Ange Kouame
                          3. Kai Sotto
                          4. Justine Baltazar
                          5. RJ Abarrientos
                          6. Jordan Heading

                          Tier 2 (Pick 6 replaceable players) - 5 points
                          7. Thirdy Ravena
                          8. Carl Tamayo
                          9. Kobe Paras
                          10. Dave Ildefonso
                          11. Clint Escamis
                          12. William Navarro

                          I would argue Ange is very replaceable. Probably less than 50% shot at being in the 2023 roster.

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                          • Originally posted by deku_midoriya View Post
                            Because of repetition and length of time for players to master it. If we stay with Chot then SBP better start laying the foundation for 2023. Even Tab's system won't work if we insert him as late for WC 2023
                            That foundation should include, in my opinion, solidifying the defense, which I think helped us get two Asia Championship silvers, and helped us beat SoKor. We need a defensive coordinator. If not Tab, then Chito Victolero and/or Goldwin Monteverde could do, and I think the latter two need coaching experience in the FIBA seniors scene. We also need players like Thirdy, Dwight, Ange, Navarro, Balti, and maybe Calvin Oftana (later in the year, maybe in August), who can fill holes in the defense.

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                            • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                              That foundation should include, in my opinion, solidifying the defense, which I think helped us get two Asia Championship silvers, and helped us beat SoKor. We need a defensive coordinator. If not Tab, then Chito Victolero and/or Goldwin Monteverde could do, and I think the latter two need coaching experience in the FIBA seniors scene. We also need players like Thirdy, Dwight, Ange, Navarro, Balti, and maybe Calvin Oftana (later in the year, maybe in August), who can fill holes in the defense.
                              I think that’s the reason Vucinic is in the coaching staff. To instill Tab Baldwin’s defensive philosophy.

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                              • Originally posted by Goose View Post
                                Can we just vote our Gilas 12? I was a regular here poster Johnny A. I will tally the votes so we can come up with our unanimous Gilas 12.

                                Tier 1 (Pick 6 irreplaceable players) - 10 points
                                1. Dwight Ramos
                                2. Ange Kouame
                                3. Kai Sotto
                                4. Justine Baltazar
                                5. RJ Abarrientos
                                6. Jordan Heading

                                Tier 2 (Pick 6 replaceable players) - 5 points
                                7. Thirdy Ravena
                                8. Carl Tamayo
                                9. Kobe Paras
                                10. Dave Ildefonso
                                11. Clint Escamis
                                12. William Navarro

                                Specifically for the World Cup 2023

                                Tier 1 (Pick 6 irreplaceable players) - 10 points
                                1. Clarkson - NP
                                2. Sotto
                                3. Baltazar
                                4. Tamayo
                                5. Dwight
                                6. Kiefer

                                Tier 2 (Pick 6 replaceable players) - 5 points
                                7. Edu
                                8. Lebron
                                9. Bolick
                                10. June Mar
                                11. Dave
                                12. Thirdy

                                *If Ange gets an exception, I'll slot him in ahead of Dave or Lebron.

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