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  • My Dream 15 Man Eligible Lineup so far for 2023.

    PG: Kiefer, Bolick

    SG: JC (NP) , Perez, Thirdy, Heading

    SF: Oftana, Dwight, Parks ,(Caelum or Lopez)

    PF: Tamayo, Baltazar

    C: Kai, AJ, Ange (If exempted, if not Maybe JMF)

    Very unlikely though. Since Coach Chot will get some help from pba

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    • Now, Baltazar will be in B league. So, the composition of our Gilas prospects is:

      Nba - JC

      Nba/Nba G league/NBL - Kai Sotto

      US NCAA - AJ Edu, Dalph Panopio

      B LEAGUE - Dwight, Kiefer, Thirdy, Parks, Paras, Baltazar

      TAIWAN LEAGUE - Heading

      NBL NZ - Tuffin

      UAAP/NCAA - Kouame, Tamayo, Dave Ildefonso

      PBA: Bolick, Perez, Oftana, Japeth, Junmar, Troy, Wright, Pogoy, Alas, Thompson

      YOUTH: Caelum Harris, Lebron Lopez

      Looks Balance. I will probably only choose 4 pba players though for 2023 Consideration.

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      • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
        Now, Baltazar will be in B league. So, the composition of our Gilas prospects is:

        Nba - JC

        Nba/Nba G league/NBL - Kai Sotto

        US NCAA - AJ Edu, Dalph Panopio

        B LEAGUE - Dwight, Kiefer, Thirdy, Parks, Paras, Baltazar

        TAIWAN LEAGUE - Heading

        NBL NZ - Tuffin

        UAAP/NCAA - Kouame, Tamayo, Dave Ildefonso

        PBA: Bolick, Perez, Oftana, Japeth, Junmar, Troy, Wright, Pogoy, Alas, Thompson

        YOUTH: Caelum Harris, Lebron Lopez

        Looks Balance. I will probably only choose 4 pba players though for 2023 Consideration.
        Lopez is already pro. That OTE experience would’ve been improved his game. Tsk.
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        • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post
          Sir Dave if the plan is to include Michael in that so-called exemption thing I think we might as well include Kai Ballugay in that package but on for the long term putting Xavier L and Chris K in the pipeline hopefully after 5 years and lastly Maik D as part of our naturalized roster then those kids from our Batang Gilas roster plus were hoping for some potentials in the coming NBTC Global Games then voila!! We could have deeper roster of players for the years to come.
          Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
          There is an application fee for each player , not a whole sale thing, the other thing that drives this is immediate need, approval for a competition pushes decision forward. example.. 3rd window if Phillips name is on roster together with Ange, it forces FIBA to make a decision and if he passes. it's basically touch move. one cleared as a local , forever cleared..
          basically i'm saying pick your battles that you can realistically win. Philips is doable to me effort and focus is put into it. ( this isn't a wishful type of thing , where you ask FIBA pueda ba the following , and then you give a wholesale list of players ..
          Michael and Koon are the most realistic options at the moment. They got their passports the closest after reaching 16.

          Suntok sa buwan si Lucero, e.

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
            Michael and Koon are the most realistic options at the moment. They got their passports the closest after reaching 16.

            Suntok sa buwan si Lucero, e.
            Is Koon worthy enough of that fee?

            No disrespect, But I think we have quality players as good as him in his position???

            I maybe wrong though, I didnt see much of him

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            • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
              Is Koon worthy enough of that fee?

              No disrespect, But I think we have quality players as good as him in his position???


              I maybe wrong though, I didnt see much of him
              Agree.

              We have Dweet Lamos & Dave Ildefonso as our good size wings.
              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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              • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                Is Koon worthy enough of that fee?

                No disrespect, But I think we have quality players as good as him in his position???

                I maybe wrong though, I didnt see much of him
                Koon? He's a 6'5 natural PG so yes

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                • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                  Koon? He's a 6'5 natural PG so yes
                  Oh the famous "6'5 PG" archetype.

                  Well, IPC is right that Phillips and Koon are the ones who have highest chance because they go theur passports just a few months late.

                  Let's see.

                  He needs to fight for his spot though. Being a 6'5 PG is an advantage. But doesn't neccesarily mean better than our Gilas Quality smaller guards.

                  But I hope he will pan out if ever exempted

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                  • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                    Koon? He's a 6'5 natural PG so yes
                    I dont think he'll play much PG with Belangel still with Ateneo.

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                    • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                      I dont think he'll play much PG with Belangel still with Ateneo.
                      For Ateneo No but for Gilas he can play the PG slot all he wants (above average handles, decent shooting, really quick on his feet and a smart baller as well)

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                      • Yeah hopefully he'll have more playing time next season. But for Gilas would be nice to have a 6'5 guard harassing the primary ballhandler of the opponent w/o sacrificing foot speed. I didnt realized earlier that he actually has more potential to be a lead/point guard than Dwight until i saw him play, he's alot quicker than i thought he would be.
                        And for me his playmaking should be secondary since we would want to rely on effective execution (Tab's system hopefully) its on the defensive end that his value would be more obvious, like switching defensively our PG wouldnt be on such a disadvantage (as with Belangel or Abarrientos) with that kind of quality in size (&quickness)

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                        • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                          Call me crazy, but I think UP's blitzing defense can be an effective counter to a DDO, especially on guards who aren't composed and aren't willing passers.
                          I'm wondering, can UP's blitzing defense be effective against teams like SoKor and maybe the MENA teams?

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                            I'm wondering, can UP's blitzing defense be effective against teams like SoKor and maybe the MENA teams?
                            What’s MENA, middle eastern teams? If yes, I can see such defense creating turnovers and disrupting offensive schemes. Not as optimistic though against SoKor who’s got quickness and are known to move the ball around really well.
                            Never look too far ahead. You might stumble on a block right in front of you.

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                            • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                              I'm wondering, can UP's blitzing defense be effective against teams like SoKor and maybe the MENA teams?
                              Did Tab’s Gilas try it a little against Sokor? I think it works for UP because they have length and athleticism which Tab’s Gilas also had. Tabs Ateneo with the loss of guys like Thirdy, Navarro even Nieto and Go lost what it had defensively.

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                              • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
                                What’s MENA, middle eastern teams? If yes, I can see such defense creating turnovers and disrupting offensive schemes. Not as optimistic though against SoKor who’s got quickness and are known to move the ball around really well.
                                MENA's Middle East and North Africa, so yeah, Middle Eastern teams are part of that.

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