Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[mathematicianrcg]

Anyway:

Gilas Schedule (2022)

May 13: SEA Games ( We already know who are the Gilas 20 man pool for this)
July 1-4: FIBA WC Qualifiers
July 12-24: Fiba Asia Cup
Sep 10-25: ASIAN Games
Nov 10- 14 : Fiba WC Qualifiers
Feb 23-27: Fiba WC Qualifiers

Side Notes: (Other Players Availability and Commitments)

Kai Sotto's Nba Draft Events Schedule

Draft Combine: Monday, May 16 – May 22
Draft Lottery: May 17
2022 NBA Draft: Thursday, June 23

PBA Players

No Sched Released Yet For Next Season

Uaap and Ncaa Players

No Sched Released Yet for Next Season

US NCAA Players

Most likely Nov 2022

I know analyzed and a lot of posters here want almost the same gilas core group to play in all of these tournaments.(including me)

However, it is very unlikely. Because of different commitments, availability, and schedule.

I hope we can use some of this for preparations for 2023 WC.

Other tourney's kasi. It looks like Coach Chot may used that as a "try out" on who should be deserving candidates for 2023 WC

[DAdmiral]

Yes. I am talking about NZ team who played last Feb. That is Team B or C of NZ.

I think they are beatable at least.

Yes I agree with that as they're after all similar to Kai none NBL starters. But don't underestimate their level as shown by Harris (who's actually playing better than Kai in last 4 games )

[mathematicianrcg]

Yes I agree with that as they're after all similar to Kai none NBL starters. But don't underestimate their level as shown by Harris (who's actually playing better than Kai in last 4 games )

Yes I agree with that as they're after all similar to Kai none NBL starters. But don't underestimate their level as shown by Harris (who's actually playing better than Kai in last 4 games )

Just Rewatched NZ VS Gials last Feb Highlights. First half, we were able to compete. It was a blowout after then.

Quite disappointed to the pba players. They were outplayed by some of NBL Bench Players. Only Dwight and Thirdy were able to stand their own.

That kinda my point though. I think a Lineup like

Dwight, Thirdy, Parks, Healthy AJ, and Kai can at least Compete against that lineup of Prewster, Vodanovich, Loe, Samuel, Rusbatch.

[DAdmiral]

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Can compete yes, on a one game match and stay close and possibly even upset . but on a 7 game series I do not think so.. To many mismatch advantages especially on the forward line.

[mathematicianrcg]

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Can compete yes, on a one game match and stay close and possibly even upset . but on a 7 game series I do not think so.. To many mismatch advantages especially on the forward line.

Gilas: Dwight, Thirdy, Parks, AJ, Kai
NZ: Prewster,Rusbatch, Samuel, Vodanovich, Loe

Given that Coaching and Bench are equal. And the game will be decided by those Starting 5.

In a 7 Game Series. You think NZ team C will sweep Gilas?
4-1? 4-2?

[DAdmiral]

AJ is a super question mark, we're assuming he would develop accordingly, has never even played for Gilas or even played a single minute at PF for Toledo. Assume na lang it's Kouame..(but he or Kai never have played PF).
So really for proven real roles Sameul and Vodanovich, vs guys like Batazar and Dwight would be the situation, which over a 7 game series is just too much. (Can you imagine Dwight or Baltazar getting minutes for the 36ers at forward, highly doubtful)

I just say TB would be favored in a 7 game series, whether it goes 5 or 7 games comes down to intangibles.

[mathematicianrcg]

AJ is a super question mark, we're assuming he would develop accordingly, has never even played for Gilas or even played a single minute at PF for Toledo. Assume na lang it's Kouame..(but he or Kai never have played PF).
So really for proven real roles Sameul and Vodanovich, vs guys like Batazar and Dwight would be the situation, which over a 7 game series is just too much. (Can you imagine Dwight or Baltazar getting minutes for the 36ers at forward, highly doubtful)

I just say TB would be favored in a 7 game series, whether it goes 5 or 7 games comes down to intangibles.

Ok kai and kouame. They actually play together in.the court against serbia and dom rep. So one of them was PF.

Hmmm. So it is the Forward Spot.

Bigs and Guards similar level for you?

Kai, Kouame, Parks are Australia Team C level players for you?

[DAdmiral]

Yes it's really the forward spots ( as Chot says , we really need more size to help Kouame)
The big guards you mentioned (Thirdy and Parks), let's be honest they really have spent most of their careers as SFs , this is very different compared to Prewster who has spent all his life as exclusively combo guard.
Rustbatch is a specialist shooter (something which by nature is not Thirdy).
If you included Ili and LeAfa the natural guard disparity would be too obvious..


Well Tab considered Prewster better than Parks and Prewster is a c level player.
Kai if we're not talking in terms of potential (he's just 19) does have worst stats than Brisbane starting Center Harrison

Loe did outplay Kouame, and he and Samuel are C level players

[DAdmiral]

Kouame and Kai playing together is a reflection of Gilas lack of an adequate legit size PF .
If Gilas had at their disposal someone like Jolibee , I doubt Kouame and Kai will ever see the court together.
Or if both were in both in the same NBL team like the 36ers no way will they play together

[Rds]

Yes it's really the forward spots ( as Chot says , we really need more size to help Kouame)
The big guards you mentioned (Thirdy and Parks), let's be honest they really have spent most of their careers as SFs , this is very different compared to Prewster who has spent all his life as exclusively combo guard.
Rustbatch is a specialist shooter (something which by nature is not Thirdy).
If you included Ili and LeAfa the natural guard disparity would be too obvious..


Well Tab considered Prewster better than Parks and Prewster is a c level player.
Kai if we're not talking in terms of potential (he's just 19) does have worst stats than Brisbane starting Center Harrison

Loe did outplay Kouame, and he and Samuel are C level players

I am assuming the C level team plays for the NZ bubble I expect Kouame to play much better. I am not sure we can play Kai and Kouame together for a long time since NZ has mobile stretch centers. So I think we will see Balti and Tamayo at 4 also. Add Japeth to the mix and I think your 5-4 rotation will do decently against Team C NZ. Not sure why we are talking about a 7 game series.

[DAdmiral]

The 5 starters in Feb should be there for Nz.
But expect reinforcements , like Ili, Le'afa, Te Rangi, Ngatai and Harrison , so more like half a B team and half a C team

[mathematicianrcg]

I am assuming the C level team plays for the NZ bubble I expect Kouame to play much better. I am not sure we can play Kai and Kouame together for a long time since NZ has mobile stretch centers. So I think we will see Balti and Tamayo at 4 also. Add Japeth to the mix and I think your 5-4 rotation will do decently against Team C NZ. Not sure why we are talking about a 7 game series.

It is just to address how big is the gap between Gilas ayers and NZ Team C Players.

In One Game Kasi. There is a possible upset. For ex. Gilas VS Serbia. Gilas COULD have won that game if we get some breaks at the end. But no one in their right minds will think that Gilas will beat Serbia in a 7 Game Series.

[mathematicianrcg]

Yes it's really the forward spots ( as Chot says , we really need more size to help Kouame)
The big guards you mentioned (Thirdy and Parks), let's be honest they really have spent most of their careers as SFs , this is very different compared to Prewster who has spent all his life as exclusively combo guard.
Rustbatch is a specialist shooter (something which by nature is not Thirdy).
If you included Ili and LeAfa the natural guard disparity would be too obvious..


Well Tab considered Prewster better than Parks and Prewster is a c level player.
Kai if we're not talking in terms of potential (he's just 19) does have worst stats than Brisbane starting Center Harrison

Loe did outplay Kouame, and he and Samuel are C level players

Yeah. Kai is only 19.

I think if Kai reach his prime. He can be in NZ Team A Level

I think a Prime 27 yrs old Kai can Compete against NZ team A Bigs.

[DAdmiral]

Yeah. Kai is only 19.

I think if Kai reach his prime. He can be in NZ Team A Level

I think a Prime 27 yrs old Kai can Compete against NZ team A Bigs.

I agree and he really is the only Pinoy who is of a level that can make a NZ A team in 2 years

[mathematicianrcg]

I agree and he really is the only Pinoy who is of a level that can make a NZ A team in 2 years

Oh. In 2 years. So a 21/22 yrs old Kai will be a NZ Team A Level Player

NZ is only 27th in Fiba Rankings. But I think they are better than that. They are better than Iran who ranked 25th.

You can blame Fiba Rewarding rankings "By Zones"

But now Aus and NZ is combined with Asia. maybe NZ can at least climb up.

I think NZ is actually a Top 20 Fiba Country.

Kai at 22yrs old being a Top 20 Country National Team level player speaks a lot pf volume.

Anyway, It is expected. Since PERSONALLY, I think Kai is already in Nba by then.